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Offline LA2019  
#1 Posted : 28 March 2013 01:56:56(UTC)
LA2019

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I bought two new Marklin engines; 36140 & 36740. They both run great but I was wondering if it is necessary to "break-in" a Marklin engine for proper performance & longevity? I did a forum search for break-in but didn't find much. There were some suggestion to run the engine overnight and then re-lubricate.

If there is a break-in period should I just run the engine at different voltage setting for a period of time forward and reverse? Will pulling rolling stock do anything to help?

Am I crazy and just wasting my time? Should I just let 'er rip!!??



thanks,
ken
Ken
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Offline witzlerh  
#2 Posted : 28 March 2013 04:52:07(UTC)
witzlerh

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I have let 'er rip in the past. Now I will run them at 1/4 throttle for a couple minutes, then 1/2, then 3/4, finally full throttle, again for a couple of minutes. There may be debate as to how long the intervals would be but a little is better than nothing.
With it easier to make things to tight tollerance, there is less need to break-in.
After this short run time, listen carefully to the lok. If there is some squealing, a touch of oil may be needed.
There are a few topics covering lubrication on this great forum if you are the rare one that has a new lok that needs oiling right away.

Enjoy!
Harald
CS2 DB & Canadian Era 3-6
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Offline RayF  
#3 Posted : 29 March 2013 20:54:56(UTC)
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I like to run my new locos for about 15 minutes at half speed, first in one direction and then the other. I don't know if it helps, but I'm sure it doesn't do any harm.
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline LA2019  
#4 Posted : 30 March 2013 00:33:50(UTC)
LA2019

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Thanks for the advice guys. I ran both engines fowards/backwards for about 15 minutes at about half speed and all seems (and sounds) fine.....
Ken
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Offline kbvrod  
#5 Posted : 31 March 2013 15:47:26(UTC)
kbvrod

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Location: Beverly, MA
Originally Posted by: LA2019 Go to Quoted Post
I bought two new Marklin engines; 36140 & 36740. They both run great but I was wondering if it is necessary to "break-in" a Marklin engine for proper performance & longevity? I did a forum search for break-in but didn't find much. There were some suggestion to run the engine overnight and then re-lubricate.

If there is a break-in period should I just run the engine at different voltage setting for a period of time forward and reverse? Will pulling rolling stock do anything to help?

Am I crazy and just wasting my time? Should I just let 'er rip!!??



thanks,
ken



Hi Ken,all,
I break in all of my loks and for the older 37*** loks I did this:

Set up separate loop of track and transformer.
Run the lok forward for 15 min. then backwards.
30 min same as above
1 hour same as above.
2 hours same as above.
Speed: not too fast and not too slow.

After this the lok always ran better and really well at slow speeds!


Dr D
Offline SteamNut  
#6 Posted : 11 May 2013 16:06:13(UTC)
SteamNut

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I usually do the same procedure for old or new locomotives. First I turn the wheels by hand to see if it is locked up. If it is loosing the casing and turning the wheels will free them preventing gear damage. I then oil the locomotive per instructions if I have them or else I oil the gears, wheel axels, and bearings/rotor. Then I run the locomotive at various speeds and also in reverse. Marklin used to use a oil that turned to wax, I had a crane freeze up because of this. I also oil my rolling stock in fact Marklin recommends this as they do not oil this at the factory. It also helps to keep a log of all your equipment when maintenance is done and what was done.
Offline Goofy  
#7 Posted : 11 May 2013 16:10:55(UTC)
Goofy


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Even Roco recommended customer to run locomotivs first time in a half hour(30 min) in both direction of the way.
I suppose it has to do with DC motor...
With Maxon or Faulhaber motor it´s not necessary.
H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
Offline Janne75  
#8 Posted : 12 May 2013 23:39:58(UTC)
Janne75

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I don't run in my locos as I'm kind of doing it all the time. I mean I don't run them with fast speeds as it don't look prototypical. The only exceptions are my digitalised 3077 rail Zeppelin (with 6080 decoder) and E103 39579 with C-Sinus motor. They both have to go fast like their prototypes, but I have bought both of them as second hand.

I have one C-Sinus motored loco that don't go as fast as it should when comparing to it's prototype. It is DB E19 (39190). It's prototypes top speed was 180 km/h and my 39190 don't run so fast speed in it's 1:87 scale. Maybe my 39579 E103 don't run either 250 km/h or 283 km/h prototypical speed in it's 1:87 scale, but enough for me. 39190 don't run faster than say below 140-150 km/h if even so fast... Both locos top speed is adjusted to maximum speed setting.

I have adjusted top speed lower than max. speed in many other of my locos. I use all my locos except some 31859 or 31860 Crocodiles, so they don't get very much running time per loco. That kind of running-in period must do good for gears etc. My method works for me though. One thing is different in my "procedure". I use my locos to actually pull wagons, usually 10-30 per freight train or 5-10 per passenger train. This is done from new to get some load to motors and gears. This way the parts run in to the usage they were designed to.

PS. Does anybody know how long loco running should we excpect from these newer locos that have still brushes (drum commutator motor DCM)? Is it weeks, months or even years running time before service time for new brushes and so on? I know that Märklin recommends lubrication after 40 hours of running. In my use and different locos it can take years before this 40 hours running time is ended per loco...RollEyes

Regards,
Janne
Märklin H0 digital layout. I have analog and digital H0 Collection. Rolling stock mostly from era I, II, III and IV. Märklin 1 gauge beginner.
Offline kbvrod  
#9 Posted : 13 May 2013 02:06:35(UTC)
kbvrod

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Hi Janne,all,

Quote:
PS. Does anybody know how long loco running should we expect from these newer locos that have still brushes (drum commutator motor DCM)? Is it weeks, months or even years running time before service time for new brushes and so on?


See above.

It will all depend on the lok.

Dr D
Offline H0  
#10 Posted : 13 May 2013 08:12:25(UTC)
H0


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Posts: 15,446
Location: DE-NW
Hi!
Originally Posted by: Janne75 Go to Quoted Post
It is DB E19 (39190). It's prototypes top speed was 180 km/h and my 39190 don't run so fast speed in it's 1:87 scale.
Top speed for DB E 19 was 140 km/h (it was 180 km/h until the early '50s).

Originally Posted by: Janne75 Go to Quoted Post
Maybe my 39579 E103 don't run either 250 km/h or 283 km/h prototypical speed in it's 1:87 scale, but enough for me.
DB had no E 103 class. The top speed of their 103 class was 200 km/h (few locos were modified for higher speeds, but AFAIK not 103 137).
Regards
Tom
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