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mascagni		#1 Posted : 03 October 2007 15:47:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Hi: I downloaded SimpleDigitalLocomotive v0.4a7 (SDL), which is control software for the Mac under OS X: http://www.sdl.claranet.de/sdlx_v04.sit To all of us that have Macs, this is a very interesting piece of software, and Mafi, who has posted about this elsewhere in this forum is to be commended and thanked for his hard work and coding prowess. I have looked over the manual, and have played around, but as yet, I have not succeeded in getting the software to control my layout. Let me describe what I have, and ask for some help. Computer Hardware/Software: I have a Powerbook with only no serial port. However, I have a USB -> Serial cable with the PL2303 USB to Serial Driver for Mac OS X from Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/osx-pl2303/ Controller: I have an IB with software version 1.3. I have downloaded v1.55, but have been unable to upgrade. When I connect the Mac to the IB and load SDL there are two ports that can be configured, one is named PL2303, and the other something like usbserial. Which one should I choose, and how should they be configured. Once the configuration is set, what should I do to test the port and communication with the IB? Thanks in advance for your help.--MM
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frankie		#2 Posted : 03 October 2007 17:42:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 692 Location: Italy		The port to use is usbserial, but I had some problem in the past with this type of port using DDW, which is another software for train control. It seems that this usb to serial adapters do not supply enough current to control the layout, in fact the same configuration applyied to a desktop with is "regular" serial port worked just fine.
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mascagni		#3 Posted : 03 October 2007 18:32:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Frankie: Grazie per la vosta informazione, siete molto gentile. Per gli altri: Ah ha: I may have yet another problem that is interfering with my ability to use the IB via SDL. I mentioned that I have not been able to upgrade my IB software up from v1.30. I have tried many things, and somehow cannot talk to the IB though the serial port of a WinXP machine I have. (Note: I am booting the machine in DOS and trying, to no avail). It may be due to me using the wrong type of serial cable, the IB serial port may be dead, or something even more obscure could be happening. I think that getting this fixed may actually be a prerequisite to trying the Mac OS X/SDL thing. BTW, my USB -> serial cable is relatively short, so I have it attached to another serial cable. Should this be a pass-through cable, or a null-modem cable? Thanks.--MM
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Mafi		#4 Posted : 03 October 2007 18:35:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Hi Michael, I have never used this driver. I recommend the driver of the original chip vendor: http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?ID=31 Two things you mus know about it: - you must remove other drivers for USB-to-Serial converters first, if this might fail it might be helpfull to install the driver of Prolifiv twice. I must confess that I have both, Keyspan and Prolific driver running, with Keyspan driver installed first and Prolific driver installed last. Worked for me (10.4.10). - You will be unable to use these "serial" ports from VirtualPC. If you want to use such a cable under VPC you must de-install the MacOSX-drivers. Perhaps you will be then able to use a cable with te WinXP drivers inside VPC, but I cannot report that this worked for me ever. The IB version is not the problem. I had tested SDL some years ago with IB v1.3. After driver installation, cable connecting and launching SDL, you can select a serial port. As mentioned, take "usbserial". Set baud=2400, data=8, stopp=2, (<-- corrected) parity=no, select IB as device, select 6050-syntax as syntax for a first test. Turn on the IB. Ensur ethat the IB's serial port is set internally to PC (use it's own menu: "Interface 3.11" --> "3.11.3 Computer" = PC! As a first test try to toggle STOP/GO via SDL. If it will not work, terminate SDL, remove the cable, reset the IB (press STOP + GO buttons for some seconds) reconnect cable and relaunch SDL: Good luck and thanks for the compliments Mafi
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Mafi		#5 Posted : 03 October 2007 18:37:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Hi MM, pass-through cable, the IB will work like a modem! And you must set the IB's port with the IB's own menu: baud=2400
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mascagni		#6 Posted : 03 October 2007 20:53:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: Vielen Dank! I will try tonight.--MM
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mascagni		#7 Posted : 04 October 2007 03:15:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: Alas, I did what you suggested, and no luck. I wonder if the IB serial port is working? If you have any more hints, please let me know, and I will try it.--MM
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frankie		#8 Posted : 04 October 2007 17:38:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 692 Location: Italy		Prego, non c'è di che! BTW don't you have the chance to connect the IB to a desktop PC? I think this is another thing to try...
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mascagni		#9 Posted : 04 October 2007 17:49:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Frankie: What you mention (PC to IB) is being discussed now in another thread in this same "Model railroad software" forum. Thanks, I hope I work it all out!--MM
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mascagni		#10 Posted : 06 October 2007 19:30:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: I am happy to say that I was able to use SDL on my MAC via the IB. I was able to test the serial port, and it works!! Information that may be of use to you is the following. I have the following hardware: 1. Mac PowerBook G4 running OS X 2. USB -> serial port cable 3. That is connected to a straight pass through serial cable 4. An IB running software version 1.3 The driver I use for the USB -> serial port is the sourceforge PL2303 driver for OS X. In SDL you select Intellibox and either the usbserial0 port or the PL2303-1B1, either will work. I also select the defaults for 2400 baud (Mrkl6051/IB), 2000 baud, 8-bits data, no parity and 2 stop. Things work without problems. I have only run Loks with F1-F4 as my mfx Loks are buried in boxes. Thanks again.--MM
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Mafi		#11 Posted : 06 October 2007 21:04:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Hello Michael, congrats and thnx for the feedback. Cheers Mafi
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mascagni		#12 Posted : 13 October 2007 04:08:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: I just made a switchboard in SDL. However, there are no turnouts on curves defined. I think this should be easy to add some, as you already have many choices. Can you think about this? If you want, I can send you the ones I need, and they could generalize via rotations.
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mascagni		#13 Posted : 13 October 2007 16:37:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: Another issue, I have a three-way turnout, and I think I have it setup correctly, but from the switchboard, it gets jammed in one state. This is also what happens in the software, one of the three states (turn left transitioned from straight) remains and does not change when you click on it.--MM
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Mafi		#14 Posted : 13 October 2007 19:20:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Hi Michael, sorry for the late answer, ad 1) turnouts on curves are not needed as seperate graphics, just use the "ordinary" graphics, the result will be the same: a turnout going to one edge of the square and the other direction to the middle of the square. Switchboard elements must not (but can) have the same figure like the real turnouts, they are simple intended to be "representatives" of the real turnouts. The "Bogenweichen" are to narrow to fit into SDL's graphic concept. ad 2) three-way turnout: please look at the example-switchboard "Example.xfm" in the SIT-package: the same bug! Thanks for this info! Update v04b3 is coming soon... Mafi
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Mafi		#15 Posted : 13 October 2007 23:12:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Hi @*, seems to be a busy weekend: new update of SDL is online. threeway-turnout bug and others fixed, mouse-dragging for switchboard added... Cheers Mafi EDIT 2007-10-14: Threeway-Turnout problem when connected to CS/ECoS: solve it this way: - set the threeway-turnout to have only ONE command per click, - set the first graphic to command "Green", second graphic "Red", third to command "2", - use as digital address solely and always the lowest addr-number for all the three stages, - use the translation table in both directions, - ensure to have the translation table loaded/update from CS, then you will see the switchboard graphics according to the CS-graphics and you will have proper feedback from CS-events.
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mascagni		#16 Posted : 14 October 2007 19:59:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: Thanks for doing the update. As I wrote above, I would be happy to sketch out the graphic for turnouts for curves in SDL.--MM
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mascagni		#17 Posted : 15 October 2007 15:28:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: FYI, I tested the three-way turnouts, and they worked fine. BTW: If you included the following (and appropriate rotations) _|/ you would be 80% to supplying usable curved turnouts. If you then added the appropriate straight section to the 90 degree small radius turns, then you would have curved turnouts that could be used to communicate from "normal radius" curves with "small radius" curves as well. I assume that you would have no problem creating the graphics or hooking it up to a single address. Thanks.--MM
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mascagni		#18 Posted : 18 October 2007 04:53:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: I set up a programming track, and was not able to do much, and I did not find much documentation for the programming features. Do you have them implemented?--MM
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Mafi		#19 Posted : 18 October 2007 15:07:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		HI Michael, I will think over your curved-turnout request. And perhaps more signal graphics. Much to do, at least 3*8=24 graphics to paint for each additional item... will take time. Programming track: little support in the menu-item "Extras" and no documentation: for the IB there is a way with SDL to programm DCC decoders on the PT. If you want to program mfx decoders with the IB, please use my DecoderSnake on the Mac. Or somethinmg else on the PC. At the moment working on next update, will take time... Cheers Mafi
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mascagni		#20 Posted : 18 October 2007 21:34:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: I was able to program the address on a Roco decoder on the Hauptgleis. I set up a separate programming track, and was not able to do it there, for some reason. It was possible only when I gave it the address I was going to change from, and then set CV 1 to the new address. BTW, do you know what type of decoders are in Roco three-rail AC trains, are they ESU Lokpilots? Thanks again, and I hope that my criticism is taken as something positive, and not just nagging.--MM
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Mafi		#21 Posted : 19 October 2007 10:00:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Hi Michael, null probemo, thanks for all bug-reports/suggestions. Roco: they have OEM-LokPilots (multiprotocol MM2/DCC) with less functionality. Cheers Mafi
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mascagni		#22 Posted : 19 October 2007 12:49:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: Reduced functionality in what sense?--MM
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Mafi		#23 Posted : 19 October 2007 20:59:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Michael: dont know exactly, please compare the official ESU manual with the one coming with the loco. Heavily discussed here (in GE): http://stummi.foren-city...200-in-wechselstrom.html Problem: some functionality is removed and not documented, and officialy no one will tell which one. I think one should use regular ESUs instead of OEMs.
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mascagni		#24 Posted : 20 October 2007 17:13:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: A bug report for SDL: I chose to use the small control windows in the preferences for startup. However, the small windows have several problems. When I choose IB extended format, I cannot get the F1-F4 buttons to appear. In addition, the font seems a bit too big as many things are too small, such as in the velocity window, when you use percentages, you do not see the real speed, just the target speed. I think this is just a font size issue, the other is something more fundamental.--MM
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Mafi		#25 Posted : 20 October 2007 20:07:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Michael: thanks for the report. Indeed even the larger windows behave strange once their size has changed. Will recode this section later. Mafi
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mascagni		#26 Posted : 20 October 2007 20:43:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: An unrelated SDL question: can one use a picture on the web, i.e. with a URL, to add to the database of pictures? It is very easy to find pictures of your model trains on the web, would it be easy for you to allow a URL and not just a filename as the designator of a picture? It seems clear you would just download the picture to the subdirectory where you have the other pictures, but one possible problem is that the pictures on the web could be enormous!! Thanks and keep up the good work.--MM
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Mafi		#27 Posted : 20 October 2007 23:35:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Michael: sorry, no URL embedding planned. We must guarentee that SDL does not communicate to the Internet to avoid two conflicts: - problems with the ECoS-Interface license, - losing our zertification that our SDL is not a trojan. Cheers Mafi
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mascagni		#28 Posted : 21 October 2007 01:07:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: Ok, is there a standard subdirectory where your program stores the existing pictures? If so, I could just save pictures from the web in there. You see, even if I were to use the CS via an RJ45 cable, I still have internet access to the laptop via the wireless card. BTW, does the CS require a crossover cable, or is it like most modern routers where it recognizes what type of cable is inserted and remaps the pins appropriately? BTW, thanks for everything.--MM
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Mafi		#29 Posted : 21 October 2007 13:53:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Hi Michael, the standard subdir will be delivered by MacOS-X, that means that the "standard" will be the last used subdir. CS: I had used a non-crossed cable and encountered problems when "hot-plugging". So at the moment I'm using for the CS the recommended crossover cable and do not remove the cable while talking to the CS. Older Macs must be connected via crossover cable, G4 or newer must not (but can). Mafi
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mascagni		#30 Posted : 21 October 2007 16:00:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: Thanks for the information. One other thing, the Switchboard user interface. This may be my unfamiliarity with the Mac, but maybe not. It seems that you have to set each square separately by ctrl+clicking on each square to get the menu. I tried to copy and paste, but could not. Can you copy things from one part of the Switchboard to another? If not, that would be a very convenient feature, and when one plays with a temporary layout, one physically cuts and pastes. Thanks again from your #1 SDL fan.--MM P.S. Are you near Berlin; I will be there in December?
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DaleSchultz		#31 Posted : 21 October 2007 16:07:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 3,997		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Mafi <br />Michael: sorry, no URL embedding planned. We must guarentee that SDL does not communicate to the Internet to avoid two conflicts: - problems with the ECoS-Interface license, - losing our zertification that our SDL is not a trojan. Cheers Mafi Mafi, can you elaborate on the first item please. Does the ECoS prohibit multiple computers ? or Just internet access? Any idea if this is to do with patents ?
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Mafi		#32 Posted : 21 October 2007 20:08:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Hi Dale, the license using the ECoS protocol is written in German, and it is prohibiting implementation of the protocol into servers. Therefore it is only a license problem, and I dont want to ran into any conflicts. Therefore I can make only descriptions of my own poor software (which is working as a client). Hidden features of the ECoS are unknown to me. I have never tried to connect more than one Mac to such a device. The device itself is a server (LINUX based). I dont know how a server works (is a server intended to host multiple clients?? I dont know). I dont know what really happens if you are connecting such a device to a router and trying to access it via TCP at the same port via several clients. I dont know if this has something to do that a divice has only one Ethernet port. Hope this clarify "nothing" ;-) Mafi
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Mafi		#33 Posted : 21 October 2007 20:18:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Hi Michael, sorry, Berlin is on the "oppising side", out of reach for me. The latest update gives you the ability to drag&drop from the definition window into the switchboard window. But in fact, to set the digital addresses, you must individually CTRL-click to set the definitions. Drag&drop is MacOS special: you can do it also within the switchboard itself or from other switchboards. Sorry to say only one tile per movement. There is a new help text in the program, see HELP>"Switchboard"... I think a suitable way is to CTRL-click on free tiles to get the first few "favorites" into your switchboard. Later on you can duplicate them via ALT+drag&drop: press the ALT-key, click-and-hold mouse button (mouse button left) and move the mouse, what will duplicate the selected tile. It is a fast way for example to have straight tracks setup (version 0.4b3). Good luck Mafi
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mascagni		#34 Posted : 25 October 2007 15:51:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: Have you figured out the control windows issued and coded up a fix yet? I have not had much time lately to poke around, but I am considering digging out some MFX Loks for this.--MM
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Mafi		#35 Posted : 26 October 2007 08:58:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Hi Michael, sorry, not yet. Cheers, Mafi
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mascagni		#36 Posted : 29 October 2007 14:48:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: Another quick question: can you change the amount of time that a particular solenoid is excited? For example: you have a decoupler, and you would like it to have a longer time that a solenoid switching a turnout. One partial solution in SDL is to make the decoupling solenoid fire more than once. However, I have not found any place in SDL to change any solenoid decoder times. Am I misinformed, or just slow.--MM
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Mafi		#37 Posted : 30 October 2007 20:22:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Hi Michael, indeed there is no way to set switching time individually, only globally for all accessories. For CS/ECoS users it is simple: the switching time is to be defined inside the CS/ECoS itself, but for the IB there is nothing implemented. Perhaps I can add it. Thanks for pointing this out. Cheers, Mafi EDIT 2007-12-12: duration time added since v04.b4
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mascagni		#38 Posted : 13 November 2007 00:43:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: No luck hooking SDL up to my new CS. I was able to get everything setup, and was able to toggle the CS from Stop to Go via the Mac/SDL. But I was not able to control anything else. Note: I was not using a cross over cable, but my suspicion is that this is not a big deal because I was able to toggle STOP and GO. Any ideas here on how to fix things?--MM
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Mafi		#39 Posted : 13 November 2007 14:02:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mascagni <br />Note: I was not using a cross over cable, but my suspicion is that this is not a big deal because I was able to toggle STOP and GO. Any ideas here on how to fix things?--MM Hi Michael, you have made everything correct. If stop/go works, then you are hooked to the CS! Next step is downloading the CS database to control the locos: open SDL's vehicle database window via CMD-O and use toolbar item "Abfrage von CS / Update from CS". Then you wil see the list of vehicles defined inside the CS. Select one inside this window and popup a ControlF-window for this vehicle via CMD-J. Then you can control the loco. Perhaps you must increase the singleclick.function delay time to 100ms (Preferences&gt;Special&gt;Delay for singleclick-functions popupmenu) to get control of some loco-fx. Accessory control can be done without donwloading the CS's database. Will be added nect. I'm working on it... Cheers Mafi
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mascagni		#40 Posted : 14 November 2007 18:40:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: Good to know, thanks. I just wanted to clarify things, you wrote: >Accessory control can be done without donwloading the CS's database. Will be added nect. I'm working on it... Does this mean that you do not have accessory control implemented yet to the CS? If not, that's 100% consistent with my experience!--MM
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Mafi		#41 Posted : 14 November 2007 23:21:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mascagni Does this mean that you do not have accessory control implemented yet to the CS? If not, that's 100% consistent with my experience!--MM Hi Michael, accessory control IS implemented for 6051/IB/CS/ECoS. Use CMD-K to get the Keyboard-window. Select there the desired syntax (a wider range than you might have expected), plz see manual... Just similiar to IB, you can access accessories at the CS/ECoS directly by their Motorola/DCC-addr. So you don't need to know their real "ID-number" inside the device's database. I think you will make your way through the manual. Good luck Mafi
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dntower85		#42 Posted : 15 November 2007 00:46:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Shady Shores, TX - USA		Mafi, Do you have a manual to SimpleDigitalLocomotive. I see the down load for the full program but I don't have a mac to open it to see if the manual is in it. The screen shot looks so impressive that it makes me want to go buy a mac.
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Mafi		#43 Posted : 15 November 2007 14:24:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by dntower85 <br />Mafi, Do you have a manual to SimpleDigitalLocomotive. I see the down load for the full program but Hi dntower85, you can open the *.sit file by using a WinXP-tool from www.stuffit.com ; the free expander's site is http://www.stuffit.com/win/expander/ . The manual is in EN and GE, and it is a PDF. But I can send you the manual via email, see my email-addr at my site www.sdl.claranet.de . Cheers Mafi PS: to buy a Mac must have much more reasons than only SDL. I think for WinXP there are much better programs avail to control model-railroads than for MacOS-X.
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Mafi		#44 Posted : 12 December 2007 12:40:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Hi Michael, new version is online, with CS/ECoS accessory editing and switching duration time for IB. Same link as above. For PPC and Intel, build with latest RB compiler to support 10.5. Happy testing Mafi
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mascagni		#45 Posted : 13 December 2007 12:09:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Hi Mafi: Just came back from Berlin last night, and have lots to do to finish the semester!! I will be trying out the new version when I have my grades in. BTW, I have been making contact/occupancy tracks to use with my new s88 module, so I should be able to test quite a few things. Thanks for your continued work.--MM
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mascagni		#46 Posted : 20 December 2007 21:57:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Mafi: I cannot get to your website, FYI.--MM
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Mafi		#47 Posted : 21 December 2007 14:05:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 109 Location: NRW, Germany		Hi Michael: thanks for the info, seems to have all my c-net based sites down... so for 24h, in the meantime try: http://home.claranet.de/sdl/
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