Hi Mike,

Very nice !! Welcome to the B-215 club !!

She does not seems motorized ?
So you need a motor and company logo.
It a motor only made for this model, but they are sometimes offered on Ebay.de and Marktplaats, a Dutch website.
I will also keep an eye on it for you.

Marco

Hi Mike,

Great looking kit.

Ian.

Hi all

Yesterday the postman delivered the 215. It was exactly as described by the seller and as can be seen it is in need of a little care and repair.

As you can see lights have been added but I'm not sure if they are the proper ones.
If not they might interfere with the motor (if I can find one)









Mike

Hi Mike,
Your B-214 looks neat !!
I have two that looks much worse.

As you said, the lights are not original.

Originally there is only one special funny looking lamp, without screw cap and two very tiny small blank copper wires that come out of the glass bulb.
I've read several times that this original lamp can let the roof melt if it's stays on too long.

I know two Ebay stores that regularly sells the special motor for this kit.
I'm monitoring their ads a few times a day (as I said before).
One is a Dutch shop owned by Willem S. I have a lot of contact with Willem about Faller AMS, I will sent him a email tonight to keep one reserved for you if he has found one.

Very nice, Mike.

Hi Mike. I love the model. Classic 60s! Anyway, maybe if you went on Faller's website and contacted
them. Perhaps they could recommend a motor to use?

Cheers,Peter

Hi Peter

Yes that is an idea.
I don't know if Faller would stock such items for old buildings like this.

Maybe Marco may be able to turn up something.

Mike

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Hello
The motor used in this model was the -then standard-one with a small modification on the axle (it ends with a hollow side on which to pin the rotating ad.
I had, as a kid this model in 1964 with a motor and a bulb (directly soldered on the motor) , then it went away and I found another one around 1990 in a flea market w/o motor. I added a motor from another Faller model (a powered water mill).
The motor itself is very simple: a flat coil and a rotating pin in brass. Attached to the rotating pin, a plastic disk mounted thanks to a thin rubber membrane and supporting an iron disk (a washer would do).

Between the coil and the rotating disk, there are 2 pieces of velvet like material with bent fibers.
The principle is that, when powered with AC current, the floating iron disk (floating because mounted by a membrane on the rotating axle) would be attracted by the coil and thanks to the velvet(or felt) would rotate by a very small angle. the result is a compact, simple silent slow rotating motor.
I guess what I am trying to say is that you may find a faller motor to slightly modify it and install it. It was used for water mill motors, blinking motors, etc.
On the image below you can see a general purpose Faller motor (for water mills, etc) with the coil, the disk and the protruding axle with a nut (that would need modification for installation in the B215 roof).

Below is the picture of the original mounting when the axle and disk are removed. You can see the velvet (or felt) two pieces. Of course the yellow wire should not be there but around the motor.


Note: the pictures are coming from the internet my 215 "Rasttankstelle" being stuck somewhere.
Cheers
Jean

Hi Mike,

Have you located a motor for the kit yet.

Ian.

Hi Mike,

I'm sure with Marco on the case, you'll get one.

Ian.

Hi all

Well, thanks to Juhan and Marco, I now have the motor for the roof.

The only problem is now I somehow have to remove the old roof with the lights in as previous my previous pictures
Any hints or tips on how I might separate the roof from the item without damage?



Oh and the last thing: I will need is the sign for the roof. Can anyone help me with that one please?

Mike

Hi all,

I seem to recall reading somewhere that you could soak glued plastic parts in some product which would soften the glue quite noticeably and make disassembly much easier. The name 'Blue Wonder' (?) comes to mind but I might be confusing that with, or for, something else. We don't have 'blue-wonder down-under' so I don't know specifically what this product is but it was on a hobby site, possibly relating to AMS and restorations.

On the other hand, many plastic glue products are quite aggressive, being basically a plastic solvent in a gel and you quickly know the damage if you spill a little, the plastic literally melts, and on clear plastic makes it very blurred and dull.

If I was attempting to disassemble a glued kit in order to clean up and rebuild it, I'd certainly see if there was a product which might help release the existing glue from the plastic, and then carefully shave away whatever glue remains with a razor-blade, scalpel or similar.

Given that many of these kits were not expertly assembled in the first place, a 'surgical' disassembly and re-glue, careful painting etc is still sure to look better than it did beforehand.

I'm trying to understand what you mean about 'building kit glue'? Do you mean putting some fresh normal plastic cement on to soften the glue already there (like I have suggested above) or do you mean something else?

For reassembly, I've often thought that Hot-Glue would be ideal because it is easy to pull apart again, but is very hard to control for small amounts of glue. You almost need a hot-glue 'syringe' or a needle but I think it would clog up too much.

I have some kits that I would love to rebuild but am waiting until I find the 'perfect technique' and the best glue to use, preferably from a respected international brand such as Faller, Humbrol etc.



Cheers

Steve

Hi Mike & Marco

Thanks for the advise chaps. I haven't done anything with it yet as life is pretty hetic at the moment dealing with stuff 87:1 scale.

I have had to find a builder for our front wall that was due to fall down; arrnge a new bathroom fitment for 11st january AND now I'm told I need planning permission to erect a larger carport. SO I am busy doing the drawings for that.

Oh and having to work as well

Once I start on the garage I'll let you know how it goes.

Mike

Hi Ian,

The left one is perfect, the other two need some attention.

I'm building my 5th one at the moment.

Marco

Hi Ian

A nice trio

When does work start on restoring the two?

Mike

Thanks Marco, Mike, Ian, all ....really like this garage aka filling station. Any idea the year it was first produced?.... and where the original prototype was constructed?

Thanks for sharing the great photos. BTW for the Faller motors, the other week I repaired the motor on a Faller windmill of mine.
I found a neat trick to use on the yellow disk the slides over the shaft. I used black electricians tape on the disk and cut a tiny cross hold into it with my exacto knife and then replaced the motor.
Now the shaft make better contact and it works much better! ...not sure the filling station motor works exactly the same way though.

Enjoy!
- Mark

Hi Mark,

The Cafe Petrol station B-214 / 215 first appeared on the 1961 Nürnberg toy fair (26/02 - 3/3/1961) and was also introduced as a novelty in the Faller catalogue 1961/62 on page 17. The B-214/215 was in the Faller program up to 1979.

The Faller AMS version B-4914 was in the Faller program from 1963 to 1973.
In the catalog 1972/73 the B-4914 model was no longer displayed, but still in the price list.
In catalog 1973/74 B-4914 also disappeared from the price list.

The 3rd variant, with part number 141072 appeared in 2006 in the program for the Faller GoKart slotcars.

I don't think there was ever a 1:1 prototype of this uber cool 1960s cult model.

Now I think about it...it is quit strange that no one calls the model "Tankstelle Rundblick", the name on the transfers/ decals of the B-214/215 and B-4914 models (Tankstelle Rundblick means Filling station roundview). (or Panorama view ??). Everyone knows by name Station Lindental (Faller B-99) or Station Schonblick (B-103), but when I say Filling station Rundblick" .....

Marco

Hi Jean,

Video shows up as private.

Ian.

Still same afther sign in.