Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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Hi everyone, a digital cable car is coming onto the market in November. Best.-Nr. Artikel UVP* 6342 Hahnenkammbahn, Seilbahn 234,90 EUR 6343 Hahnenkammbahn, Gebäudesatz 64,90 EUR 6344 Hahnenkammbahn, Ergänzungspackung 24,90 EUR 6345 NEU: Soundpaket, für alle BRAWA Seilbahnen (sound module for all cable cars 149,90 EUR http://www.brawa.de/index.php?id=2560 |
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Joined: 15/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 693 Location: Bournemouth, Dorset
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This looks a nice item. I think it is only with the sound module that it becomes digital though.
I love the Brawa cable cars and have collected most of the older ones over the years.
They used to do a very nice funicular as well, and a container crane, oh and a traverser as well. Now sadly long out of production.
Does anyone have the Brawa Trolleybus, previously made by Eheim. I wish they were still available for those modelling earlier eras.
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Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK
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Hello Ashley.
It sounds as if you are the man to speak to. I have a Titlis -Bahn HO-6330 on my lay out. It is powerd by a Marklin 6647 transformer, I have a red and brown wire going up from the trans to the motor. It has been up an running for some time know and all is ok with it and everybody thinks it is great. The thing I am not sure about is I was given to understand that the gondolas rotate but we have tried everything but we cannot see how they do. Please can you shine any light on this.
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Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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Originally Posted by: AshleyH  This looks a nice item. I think it is only with the sound module that it becomes digital though.
I love the Brawa cable cars and have collected most of the older ones over the years.
They used to do a very nice funicular as well, and a container crane, oh and a traverser as well. Now sadly long out of production.
Does anyone have the Brawa Trolleybus, previously made by Eheim. I wish they were still available for those modelling earlier eras. I have most of the previous Brawa prodcuts. Finicular Cable car Trolleybus (2) Skilift and a Cable car Brawa water pumps (most of them leaked) and many other items. had a lot of signals and ruined most of them (connected them the wrong way) regards., John |
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Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK
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Hello John.
Sorry to her about your signals. Can you shine any light on my cable car.
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Joined: 15/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 693 Location: Bournemouth, Dorset
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Charles,
The Titlis Bahn is one of the more modern Brawa cable cars and not one I have.
However, I think it is the passenger platform within the gondolas that is supposed to rotate, rather than the whole gondola.
One possibility is that some Brawa items specifically need a DC power supply and others are happy with either. As you are using an AC power supply can I suggest trying a DC one instead.
Best Regards Ashley
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Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK
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Sorry to be so thick what do I need to use a DC controler for it.
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Joined: 28/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 757 Location: Wawa, Ontario
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Originally Posted by: charles Sharpe  Hello Ashley.
It is powerd by a Marklin 6647 transformer, I have a red and brown wire going up from the trans to the motor. It has been up an running for some time know and all is ok with it and everybody thinks it is great. The thing I am not sure about is I was given to understand that the gondolas rotate but we have tried everything but we cannot see how they do. Please can you shine any light on this.
Charles. Do you mean that the brown and red wired are feeding the circuit board module that is included with the Titlis -Bahn HO-6330 unit. Are the lights on in the gondolas? I am not able to help further because mine is still packed away in the box and would be a chore to get out. In case you do not have the manual for the unit to refer back to, here is the link from the Brawa site. Titlis Bahn 6330 manual link.
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Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK
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Many thanks for the link. I do have the manual and I have to say it is not very clear at all.
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Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,565 Location: Paris, France
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Hello Charles The power supply is AC 8 to 12 V. No DC allowed. It seems that the same circuit powers the motor and lights the cabins so great care must be taken to avoid short circuits between the cable#1 and cable#2. There seems to be sensors (switches) to provide a 5 sec. stop and then reverse when cabins arrive at the station. I hope this helps Cheers Jean |
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Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK
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Hello Jean.
Yes there are censer switches and as you say there is a 5 sec delay before they return on there travel. That part is all running ok it just the bases of the gondolas do not rotate.
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Joined: 12/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 6
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Hi Charles,
I've only just joined the forum recently and must say I'm really impressed with the calibre of discussion and assistance.
I can comment on the Brawa Titlis Bahn and also the old 12-track Traverser table, I have both and am planning to install them in a layout I've just recently started to construct (track plan to follow - maybe posted elsewhere on the forum?)
I have also recently ordered from "sb Modellbau" the Faulhaber motors for both (and similar for the Fleischmann/ Maerklin turntable as well) and plan to convert out the old noisy motors and digitise them all.
Firstly, the gondola do have internal lights and the figurines revolve inside the cabins. The gondola itself does not rotate. I bought the unit second-hand and it was already wired up.
I'll have a sticky-beak at the unit (it's currently mounted on a test-frame) and let you know what I find out about how it operates. My presumption is that the motor in the gondola is powered the same way as the internal cabin lights receive their power (through the 2 insulated wires on which the cabins are suspended).
I would willingly receive any advice / tips/ traps for the inexperienced when the sb Modellbau motors arrive and I need to install them. There appears to be plenty of tips on converting the turntable but nothing on the cable cars or the old traverser... Can anyone point me to prior posts on the topic?
Oh, and by the way, has anyone digitised the Brawa traverser ... another "project for me"
Let me know if I can assist further with the cable car problem.
Al.
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kind regards, Al
Remember : Switzerland was built as a full-scale model of Dad's train set Note : Dementia not curable ... yet. How to avoid : have a hobby, learn another language, keep brain busy - complex problem solving Treatment : play trains !!! |
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Joined: 09/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,971 Location: Somewhere, But Nowhere Near Manchester, England
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Originally Posted by: AshleyH  This looks a nice item. I think it is only with the sound module that it becomes digital though.
I love the Brawa cable cars and have collected most of the older ones over the years.
They used to do a very nice funicular as well, and a container crane, oh and a traverser as well. Now sadly long out of production.
Does anyone have the Brawa Trolleybus, previously made by Eheim. I wish they were still available for those modelling earlier eras. Ashley, I believe there is a complete boxed Eheim trollybus in the stuff I inherited from my dad. I am slowly unpacking everything and photos will be posted one day. BR Glenn |
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Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,565 Location: Paris, France
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Hello Charles There is a motor in each cabin to rotate the floor. Same power as the light inside. They also warn that if the 2 cabins are not assigned to their right place, then they don't rotate (but they probably light up).. Cabin marked "7" must be installed on the right side when facing the mountain while cabin "8" must be on the left side (see illustration 3, page 12). Cheers Jean
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Joined: 27/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 3,478 Location: Holland
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Hi Al,
Welcome to the forum !
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Joined: 12/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 6
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Originally Posted by: kweekalot  Hi Al,
Welcome to the forum !
Marco Thanks Marco. I have heaps of questions and wonder where is best place to post a set of them... I'm finally setting up a fairly large layout, both HO (Maerklin, Hag, Roco, Fleischmann, etc.) and HOm (Bemo) with a Swiss theme to incorporate a scratch-built 2-track scale version of the Langwiesser Viaduct my dad made back in the '70's (it's more than 2m long!). The layout will be a large "L" shape 13.5m x 8.5m with a couple of protrusions to walk around. I'm guessing a year or so before I can "play trains on it and quite a few years before it's landscaped. I am digitising it and seem to have acquired digital bits from all and sundry suppliers. I also have iTrain for running with my Macs and iPhone (via Touchcab). Clearly lots to do ... which is actually the whole point :-) |
kind regards, Al
Remember : Switzerland was built as a full-scale model of Dad's train set Note : Dementia not curable ... yet. How to avoid : have a hobby, learn another language, keep brain busy - complex problem solving Treatment : play trains !!! |
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Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK
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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB  Hello Charles There is a motor in each cabin to rotate the floor. Same power as the light inside. They also warn that if the 2 cabins are not assigned to their right place, then they don't rotate (but they probably light up).. Cabin marked "7" must be installed on the right side when facing the mountain while cabin "8" must be on the left side (see illustration 3, page 12). Cheers Jean
I hope to be up and about today. I hope to check out the bit about car 7/8 bit. I am sure that is the way I set it up but it was 2 years ago. Charles. |
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Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK
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Have checked the order of the cars and it is as they say on page 12 of the insructions? Not sure were Ingo from here.
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Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,565 Location: Paris, France
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Hello Charles The remaining things to check are (I think): are the cabins powered? Are they lit? They are supposed to be lit except during the waiting/boarding time lasting 5 secs. If they are not lit (most probable case) then check: - power on the valley mechanism : (The instruction sheet mentions that the mountain mechanism provides power to the valley mechanism (one wire and a plug, see page 13 on instructions sheet). - the power is brought to the cabins by the traction wires: make sure that there is no short circuit between the two traction wires (the one on maintain side and the one on valley side) - make sure that the contact or transistor powering the traction cable is not damaged (but a previous short circuit) - make sure that each traction wire is connected to power (I supposed by going around the aluminum pulleys, 2 on each mechanism. Lets hope for the best Cheers Jean |
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