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Offline James  
#1 Posted : 26 September 2012 10:42:56(UTC)
James

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Hello All:

A few years back I purchased this little item (a soft spot from my childhood) and recently was giving it an inspection, however, when I came to checking the wheel tires, I noted that the drive rods attached to the main wheels appear riveted to the wheels. I tried to search for any info on this forum (no luck) so I was wondering if any one has had this issue, and how was it solved? Confused

At first I tried using the sockets from Marklin's tool set.
However there was no socket small enough to unscrew the nut, ergo... I discovered that it seemed to be permanently attached. Huh

Am I missing something hereConfused

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James B
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Offline Lollo  
#2 Posted : 26 September 2012 12:54:17(UTC)
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Hi James,

I just checked the parts manual, and the drive rods are all screwed on to the drive wheels. I don't know of any Marklin loco with drive rods rivited to the wheels.

Brian.
Brian
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Offline James  
#3 Posted : 26 September 2012 20:01:03(UTC)
James

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Brian:

Thanks for the info, however, my manual that came with the Loc. says the same thing. Unfortunately, the item that I have before me isn't the same item in the manual. The following two photos might give a better idea of what I am referring to. The BR 55 and the BR 24 are similar in wheel sizes, however the BR 55 (1st pic) is from a start set (Made in Hungary) while the BR 24 is the hobby line (Made in China).

BR 55
BR 55

BR 24
BR 24

The end nut on the 55 is defined and comes off easily with the hex driver from the 70 900 Marklin tool kit. on the other hand... the end nut (if that is what it is) is much more shallower, and none of the hex tools from the Marklin tool kit will work on it... ergo, I surmise it is riveted to the drive rod. I will try to pass this one by the local Marklin Rep or my dealer.

As of this time, it's looking like if I have to replaced the traction tires, I have to replace the locomotive Cursing
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Offline franciscohg  
#4 Posted : 26 September 2012 20:34:49(UTC)
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mm, perhaps they are just pressed in the wheels. the rods of the center axle of the S10 in the kaiser wilhelm set are not screwed but pressed into the wheels. to remove them you have to grab them firmy and then pull. i have used an old surgical clamp to do it. but it seems not very wise to use such configuration in the axle that have the tractions tire.....
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Offline petestra  
#5 Posted : 26 September 2012 22:26:12(UTC)
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Thanks for this info. I just ordered the 36240. I did not know it was made in China.
PeterHuh
Offline RayF  
#6 Posted : 26 September 2012 22:58:10(UTC)
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Hi James,

Looking at the Marklin exploded diagram for your loco, there are definitely screws shown. I have also looked at the high resolution photos on Frits Osterthun's pages which show the 36240 very clearly with screws on the coupling rods.

Look here:

http://www.osterthun.com...atic/01.Static~20-24.htm

and here:

http://www.maerklin.de/s...&artikelnummer=36240

From your photo above it appears to me that the screw heads may have become damaged, perhaps by having the wrong size spanner used on them?

Perhaps it's best to show the loco to your dealer. Maybe he can suggest a solution.
Ray
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Offline petestra  
#7 Posted : 26 September 2012 23:09:30(UTC)
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Thanks Ray! I look forward to seeing the bolts when I receive the Lok in a few weeks.
PeterThumpUp Smile
Offline James  
#8 Posted : 27 September 2012 04:53:12(UTC)
James

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Thanks for the help guys. BigGrin

The only thing that I can think of is that if there are bolts (screws or otherwise) on this little locomotive, then they are either the press on type or they have been sheered off at the factory end. Either way... I'm not impressed. I've spoken to my dealer regarding this, and all I get is a sort of "what do you want me to do about it" attitude.

Sadly, for now, this item will be going on to the back burner or as a provision for the odd youngster who wants to "run" my trains, and I guess, if I want to have this lok or any representative of it's class on my layout, I will have to look into retrofitting one of my older analogue units.

This is just another reason why I have never thought much of the China connection Marklin entered into a few years back.

Anyway... thanks again for all of the help here. I guess I just got burned, and for future reference, I'll just have to remember to check out the construction of any of the items "Made in China"Blink
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Offline stenscience  
#9 Posted : 27 September 2012 14:22:52(UTC)
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Hey all,
Been away for a while, but thought I would chip in on this.I can't help with the issue of removing the whatnots, but if the most pressing issue is the traction tires, I do have a suggestion. There's a product called Bullfrog Snot (I think) that is a liquid rubber.You paint it onto the wheel in the place of traction tires. Might take care of one of the issues.I have seen it advertised in MRR magazines but have not used it myself...
Offline James  
#10 Posted : 27 September 2012 16:35:19(UTC)
James

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Location: Alberta
Hello All:

I just checked out the Bull Frog site and it has definite possibilitiesThumpUp

There is one thing though, Marklin drivers that require tires are machined to allow for the rubber tire to fit somewhat flush. If this product were to be used, it might require a couple of applications to be a viable solution. If it does work, then, I for one, would say goodbye to Marklin tires... at least in the case of the BR 24

BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin

Thanks for the suggestion

Regards
James B
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Offline stenscience  
#11 Posted : 27 September 2012 19:42:03(UTC)
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No worries, glad to help. I have not used it myself, but a couple people I talked with have. Your inference that it might take a couple of applications is probably correct. Also, it probably doesn't last as long as regular tires. On the other hand, it appears easy and quick and you would save a lot of time and trouble assembly-wise.
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