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Hi uhwerk, The 382 banana vans were made between 1936 and 1950. I got some excellent information from our forum member LMS800 (Wolf), and I reckon my oldest 382 van is from 1939. Here's a couple of photo's of my 382 vans, as you will see some require a "little" repair work...  Ian.  Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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Originally Posted by: DV  It seems that there are a lot of bananas ripening through the forum at different trees, so I thought why not get them all under the one branch. (snip) Pictures, youtubes, stories, layouts, even jokes, anything to do with bananas come to this topic.Come one, come all...... Romans, friends and countrymen lend me your bananas.......and so forth  You said it, does this qualify..... ?? MONKEYA young girl realized that she had grown hair between her legs. She got worried and asked her mum about the hair. Her mum calmly said, oh that part where hair has grown is called Monkey, be proud that your monkey has grown hair. The girl smiled. At dinner, she told her sister, my monkey has grown hair! Her sister smiled and said, oh that's nothing, mine is already eating bananas. The mum fainted!   |
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Originally Posted by: DV It seems that there are a lot of bananas ripening through the forum at different trees, so I thought why not get them all under the one branch. (snip) Pictures, youtubes, stories, layouts, even jokes, anything to do with bananas come to this topic.Come one, come all...... Romans, friends and countrymen lend me your bananas.......and so forth You said it, does this qualify..... ?? MONKEYA young girl realized that she had grown hair between her legs. She got worried and asked her mum about the hair. Her mum calmly said, oh that part where hair has grown is called Monkey, be proud that your monkey has grown hair. The girl smiled. At dinner, she told her sister, my monkey has grown hair! Her sister smiled and said, oh that's nothing, mine is already eating bananas. The mum fainted! Yup, I would say that it qualifies, but, maybe the members might not appreciate it  |
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Hi all, We have 2 banana vans in the post, photo's soon.  Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi all, We have 2 banana vans in the post, photo's soon. Ian. Hi all, Make that 3 banana vans in the post. Ian.
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Hi all,
Some exciting news for the weekend.
I've got my first "Migros 4738 Banana van" in the post.
Thanks to my good friend mehmet for showing photo's of this model of van.
Have a good weekend.
Ian.
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Hi all, 3 Banana vans arrived lunch time today. Photo's soon. Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi all,
Some exciting news for the weekend.
I've got my first "Migros 4738 Banana van" in the post.
Thanks to my good friend mehmet for showing photo's of this model of van.
Have a good weekend.
Ian.
Hi Ian, The Migros 4738 only shows an Orange an Apple and a bunch of Grapes in the Kolls pic, you sure you haven't gone  Bananas on this one and there is only one version of it. Then there was the Swiss Migros Insider Wagon for '06 which was a more modern version with Beans, Carrotts and a Tomato. Better for you than a banana, a dietition once told me   |
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" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !
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Glen
Auckland NZ
" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !
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Nice bunch of Vans your growing Ian |
Glen
Auckland NZ
" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !
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Hi Glen,
No monkey business here, I'm looking at a boxed 4738 "Migros" and on the side of the van it shows a......
Orange, strawberry, grapes and a BANANA......photo's soon.
You can check one out on mehmet's topic....that's where I first saw the van.
Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Fred, I believe this can be explained easily......... Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Looking around the forum, I suspect I'm not alone. Ian. Touche' -Fred
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I will not succumb, I will not succumb...... Banana Wagon SetSomeone better buy it, I cannot justify it but all things bananas is getting to me. I will be strong. Cookee  |
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Originally Posted by: Marklin in Oz Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Fred, I believe this can be explained easily......... Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Looking around the forum, I suspect I'm not alone. Ian. Touche' -Fred Hi Fred, Ian.
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz I will not succumb, I will not succumb...... Banana Wagon SetSomeone better buy it, I cannot justify it but all things bananas is getting to me. I will be strong. Cookee You know you want to. Ian.
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Hi all, My most expensive Banana van (382) is in the post. Ian.
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Two Bananas vans from mailing.
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz I will not succumb, I will not succumb...... Banana Wagon SetSomeone better buy it, I cannot justify it but all things bananas is getting to me. I will be strong. Cookee Hi Steve, Welcome back to NZ btw, thought you were gonna be an honary Jafa, sure your not living in Levin & Karleen is not an alias I know where there is another one of those 4876 sets, and it's North of the Bombays and it was bought at the Euro Mini Convention in Palmy last year for a wee bit less than the auction price, altho the vendor originally was originally asking more Apologies to everybody elsewhere in the world who maybe can't understand what I'm on about, but if you can't, your not a banana republican then Edited by user 16 July 2012 04:28:50(UTC)
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Glen
Auckland NZ
" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !
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Hi Stephen, Very nice banana vans. Ian.
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Hi Glen, I understand. Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Stephen, Very nice banana vans. Ian. Thanks, Ian. |
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Glen, I understand. Ian. Yes quite Ian, you got your pasport for the Republic a while ago |
Glen
Auckland NZ
" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !
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Hi Glen, Not only the passport, I got the jacket as well. Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Glen, Not only the passport, I got the jacket as well. Ian. No Cap  |
Glen
Auckland NZ
" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !
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Hi all, Another couple of banana vans. My total now stands at 97 Banana vans. Ian.  Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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Reckon the answer will be "AUCH NAY" !!!  |
Glen
Auckland NZ
" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !
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Hi Dusan, You'd better ask B1. Ian.
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Hi Glen, Ian.
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Hi all, Got 3 banana vans in the post. Now, although school was a long long time ago......97 + 3 = 100..... Photo's soon. Ian. B1 has already said...well done.
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Grats on nr 100!!! Here are nr 4 for me: 
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Hi Robert, Thanks. Great looking Banana van. Ian.
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Very nice, Robert. |
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi all, Got 3 banana vans in the post. Now, although school was a long long time ago......97 + 3 = 100..... Photo's soon. Ian. B1 has already said...well done. Hello Ian, congratulations for 100 vans !! But how many bananas do you eat each day ?? In an earlier post you said, your oldest banana wagon is from 1939. In 1939 Märklin changed the production line,they changed the coupling system, 2 different banana wagons are possible in 1939 1. van with coupling system KK 3  2. van with new coupling system BK 4 and with one blade  Don't mix this wagon (BK 4) with the post-war one with 3 blades  Regards Wolf
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Ian, has this van the small coupling system BK 5 ? For clarification a picture of coupling system BK 4  and a pic of BK 5  As far as I can see from the photo your banana van has BK 5 and at the axis 1 blade only. When this is correct we have a problem : the van is a pre-war van with coupling system from 1950 !! Märklin started with coupling system BK 5 in 1950! (My computer is presently out of order, I read the forum and see the pics on a small netbook only.) Regards Wolf
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Hi Wolf,
The van has BK5 couplings, held in place with what looks like a split pin arrangement and with a spring between the 2 couplings.
Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi all,
These 3 vans take my total to 100 banana wagons.
Ian.
[ HI Ian, Fyfes Is that a Scottish Banana Company Congrats on a fine Century, but I have to ask all, do non Marklin Banana Wagons qualify for scoring on a Marklin forum   |
Glen
Auckland NZ
" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !
CS1 Reloaded, Touch Cab, C Track Modules, K track layout all under construction. Currently Insider |
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Hi Glen, The Scottish Banana Company....sounds good. If the van is yellow, white or brown and has Banana on the side of it, thats good enough for B1 and myself. I/we don't mind what gauge it is either, infact we're on the look out for an O gauge Banana van. Ian.
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Originally Posted by: DV Hi Dusan, Sorry, 4414 in the post. .....Total at 101 Banana vans. Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Dusan, Sorry, 4414 in the post. .....Total at 101 Banana vans. Ian. Onto number 200.........make it so Number One |
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Originally Posted by: LMS800 Hi Wolf,
As far as I can see from the photo your banana van has BK 5 and at the axis 1 blade only.
When this is correct we have a problem : the van is a pre-war van with coupling system from 1950 !!
Märklin started with coupling system BK 5 in 1950!
Regards
Wolf
Speaking of Axis, the lithographed lettering "D.R.B." appears on the exterior walls of these pre-war era banana cars. Should we presume this to represent the syllables of "Deutsche Reichsbahn" rather than its two initials, or does that extra "B" stand for another word, as in "D.R.G?"
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Hi Dusan, That's a nice number...200, where have I seen that before. Ian.
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Originally Posted by: BR01097 Originally Posted by: LMS800 Hi Wolf,
As far as I can see from the photo your banana van has BK 5 and at the axis 1 blade only.
When this is correct we have a problem : the van is a pre-war van with coupling system from 1950 !!
Märklin started with coupling system BK 5 in 1950!
Regards
Wolf
Speaking of Axis, the lithographed lettering "D.R.B." appears on the exterior walls of these pre-war era banana cars. Should we presume this to represent the syllables of "Deutsche Reichsbahn" rather than its two initials, or does that extra "B" stand for another word, as in "D.R.G?"
I quote from wikipedia: "The Deutsche Reichsbahn ("German National Railway") – was the name of the German national railway created from the railways of the individual states of the German Empire following the end of World War I. It was founded in 1920 as the Deutsche Reichseisenbahnen when the Weimar Republic (formally Deutsches Reich – "German Empire" – hence the usage of "Reich" in the name of the railway) took national control of the German railways, which had previously been run by the German states. In 1924 it was reorganized under the aegis of the Deutsche Reichsbahn-Gesellschaft (DRG), a nominal private railway company, which was 100% owned by the German state. In 1937 it was reorganized again as a state authority and given the name Deutsche Reichsbahn (DRB). After the Anschluss in 1938 the DR also took over the Bundesbahn Österreich (BBÖ, Federal Railway of Austria)." |
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Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Hi Ray, Thanks for the information. Ian.
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Originally Posted by: RayF Originally Posted by: BR01097 Originally Posted by: LMS800 Hi Wolf,
As far as I can see from the photo your banana van has BK 5 and at the axis 1 blade only.
When this is correct we have a problem : the van is a pre-war van with coupling system from 1950 !!
Märklin started with coupling system BK 5 in 1950!
Regards
Wolf
Speaking of Axis, the lithographed lettering "D.R.B." appears on the exterior walls of these pre-war era banana cars. Should we presume this to represent the syllables of "Deutsche Reichsbahn" rather than its two initials, or does that extra "B" stand for another word, as in "D.R.G?"
I quote from wikipedia: "The Deutsche Reichsbahn ("German National Railway") – was the name of the German national railway created from the railways of the individual states of the German Empire following the end of World War I. It was founded in 1920 as the Deutsche Reichseisenbahnen when the Weimar Republic (formally Deutsches Reich – "German Empire" – hence the usage of "Reich" in the name of the railway) took national control of the German railways, which had previously been run by the German states. In 1924 it was reorganized under the aegis of the Deutsche Reichsbahn-Gesellschaft (DRG), a nominal private railway company, which was 100% owned by the German state. In 1937 it was reorganized again as a state authority and given the name Deutsche Reichsbahn (DRB). After the Anschluss in 1938 the DR also took over the Bundesbahn Österreich (BBÖ, Federal Railway of Austria)." Hi Ray, thanks for this information. But I must amend: D.R.B. was not an official lettering of "Deutsche Reichsbahn" wagons, official was DR. D.R.G. was used by model railroad industrie (as well as in literature) to distinguish between the different "epoche". Regards Wolf
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