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Offline huttel  
#1 Posted : 11 May 2012 00:08:27(UTC)
huttel

Denmark   
Joined: 11/01/2006(UTC)
Posts: 274
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Hi all

Just got myself a CS2 - what a dream RollEyes but I have problems connecting it directly to my Win7 PC through a cross over cable. My PC is already connected to my wifi network and the intention is to connect thre CS2 through a cross over cable to the ethernet port on my PC - can anybody confirm that is actually possible and if so help me setup the PC and CS.

Rgds,
Thomas
Carpe Diem!
Märklin HO | Insider | C-Track | Digital | Primarilly DK & D | Era III+IV | PC Control with CS2 (60215), Intellibox & Win-Digipet | http://huttel.dk/marklin
Offline Maxi  
#2 Posted : 11 May 2012 02:09:33(UTC)
Maxi


Joined: 28/04/2003(UTC)
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Location: Wawa, Ontario
Yes it is possible, but connecting to a router is a better option in my opinion.
When it comes to a linux type appliance (and I call a CS2 an appliance), if the network is not available when it powers up then it can be a hit and miss if the network component will initialize properly or at all. This means that you will need to ensure that your computer is on at the same time or first in order to ensure that the network comes up for the CS2.

With a router (both the CS2 and the computer would be plugged into the LAN side of the router), the router would boot up well in advance before the CS2 starts the network interface and there should be little or not issues experienced. Both the computer and the CS2 can be set to have thier IP address assigned via DHCP which the router would hand out once this feature is configured in the router.

There is also products available on the market for a resonable cost to take a wirless signal and convert it to a cabled solution which could be then connected to the CS2.

To use a cross-over cable to just connect your computer to the CS2, you will have to assign a unique static IP address to both the CS2 and the ethernet network adaptor on your computer. (eg. the CS2 could be assigned 192.168.1.10 and the ethernet adaptor on your computer could be assigned 192.168.1.11), what ever the range of numbers used there can not be any overlap of IP ranges between your wifi address range and the chosen address range for the CS2 and ethernet adaptor on your computer. This means that if your wifi address on your computer is eg. 192.168.1.50 then you would have to chose a different address range for your cross-over wire connection eg. 192.168.2.10 for your CS2 and 192.168.2.11 for the ethernet adaptor on your computer.

Also you will have to assign a netmask to the IP address configuration for both the CS2 and the ethernet adaptor on your computer.
For the 192.168.x.x range you would normally enter 255.255.255.0 as the netmask.

Hope this helps.
Offline Maxi  
#3 Posted : 11 May 2012 02:13:31(UTC)
Maxi


Joined: 28/04/2003(UTC)
Posts: 757
Location: Wawa, Ontario
One last note, the network component is not fully available after the main control screen is displayed on the CS2. It will take about another 30 seconds to a minute before all the remaining features are loaded and available.

In short do not try to use the CS2 for about another minute after the system boots up and appears to be ready for use, this will help ensure that the system has had a chance to fully load all the required programming.
Offline JohnjeanB  
#4 Posted : 12 May 2012 11:40:43(UTC)
JohnjeanB

France   
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC)
Posts: 3,551
Location: Paris, France
Hi Thomas
Connecting a CS2 directly to your PC works very well with a crossover cable:
- better switch-off WiFi (not mandatory though)
- on your CS2 select the screen IP (on SET-UP screen select the tool - your screen background is now blue- and then select the IP screen)
- on the IP screen you will see the IP adress xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.
- Copy it exactly on your browser address (instead of a www.google.com) and hit the return key
After a few seconds you will see a simplified graphic menu

Notes:
* After each reboot of the CS2, the IP address changes so you have to repeat the process above
* Connecting through your switch router with a "normal" cable is easier thanks to DHCP (automatic address assignment by your router), provider you have validated DHCP on one of the SETUP screen on your CS2
Cheers
Jean
Offline huttel  
#5 Posted : 12 May 2012 11:43:06(UTC)
huttel

Denmark   
Joined: 11/01/2006(UTC)
Posts: 274
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Originally Posted by: Maxi Go to Quoted Post


Hope this helps.


Hi Maxi

Thanks a lot. With your good instructions I managed to get the connection up and running BigGrin and also to configure Windigipet including linking the lok database in WDP with that on the CS2.

Have one remaining challenge - I somehow can't get my S88 feedback to work. Think that it is probably some common ground problem - I am using 3 Power2 Uhlenbrock boosters - will have to look into it.

But thank you again for pointing me in the right direction.

Rgds,
Thomas

Carpe Diem!
Märklin HO | Insider | C-Track | Digital | Primarilly DK & D | Era III+IV | PC Control with CS2 (60215), Intellibox & Win-Digipet | http://huttel.dk/marklin
Offline clapcott  
#6 Posted : 14 May 2012 21:50:35(UTC)
clapcott

New Zealand   
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC)
Posts: 2,448
Location: Wellington, New_Zealand
Just in case some readers of this topic are getting bogged down with the term CrossOver Cable, this relates to ensuring the Transmit(Tx) goes to Receive(Rx) and NOT Tx<>Tx and Rx<>Rx.

Similar to an American tourist driver hopping on a British road and causing a collision.

Current PC/Laptop products that include a Network interface will almost certainly be 1Gb (1000Base-T) . Part of the 1 Gb specification is a requirement to negotiate the "road rules" - (i.e. lobotomize the American tourist). Thus , as long as one end of the network connection is operating to 1Gb specifications, there is no "requirement" to be concerned about the cable used ("StraightThrough" or "CrossOver")

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet
"Autonegotiation is a requirement for using 1000BASE-T[8] according to Section 28D.5 "
Peter
Offline clapcott  
#7 Posted : 14 May 2012 22:04:33(UTC)
clapcott

New Zealand   
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC)
Posts: 2,448
Location: Wellington, New_Zealand
Originally Posted by: huttel Go to Quoted Post

......- I somehow can't get my S88 feedback to work. Think that it is probably some common ground problem ....


If I may put out a general plea on this topic.

Could anyone encountering issues , please test the S88 by
- setting up a "sensor" icon on the CS2s Layout panel
- adding a simple jumper wire from the S88 port# (set in the above step) to the "upsidedown T" on the same S88 box.

If the light on the layout panel does not change to Yellow when the jumper is connected, then it is a problem with the S88<>CS2 and of little use diving under the layout. If this test of capability has been done please state that and the outcome.

There have been enough instances of damaged cables and, recently, a CS2 "lost its brains" problem that make the bisection of the problem (Upstream from the S88 to the CS v Downstream to the layout) a real timesaver.
Peter
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