I added some photos that I snapped seconds before the interior lighting stopped working.

Regards

Mike C

Sorry, I should have also taken a photo of the couplings. The design appears to be much improved over the Flirt and allows for coupling/uncoupling of the train. I should be cautious here, as the couplings may be connected to the lighting issues that I experienced. The lights in the pilot coach went out first and then those in the motor unit went out shortly thereafter. It is possible that there was a cross circuit at the couplers or between wires at the coupler although I am not ruling out a problem with the LED panel itself.

Regards

Mike C

Mike,
I had a FLIRT with a similar problem a couple years ago. The interior lights didn't work on all except the lead unit. I sent it back for repair but no more boards were available so I got a refund but no FLIRT.

Roger

Mike-looks pretty awesome in the photos. I hope you get it replaced quickly!

I shipped the Trainset back to the dealer. They replied that they don't have the AC version in stock anymore, so they will be refunding my credit card, which leads to a whole new set of problems, as Visa will as usual charge their exchange fees and the refund will be around 10% less than the original charge. I instructed the dealer to hold on to the payment as credit against future orders, but I am waiting to see if they comply.
I am surprised that the response was not that they would try to order a replacement if the item was found to be defective.

That being said, this topic is rapidly drifting into territory normally covered under the eBay and Dealers thread, so I won't go further into the transactional aspects.

I would really like to hear if any of you also have any problems with the lights/leds on this model. In the Swiss Hag Forum, there has been some discussion about motor problems, but as I only ran the model for a grand total of 10 minutes, I did not witness any such problems.

For those who may have a motor problem, I wonder if the motor upgrade that was available for the older NPZ models from www.morep.ch (Renfer) can still be used to improve the new model?

Regards

Mike C

Rob,

to answer your question, no. the set made the Long trip up from the Island near NYC.
If the dealer can't replace it, I will have to look overseas as other US dealers are overpriced.

Regards

Mike C

http://www.forum.hag-inf...Thread&threadID=5067

One member reports that one of the two motors in his FLIRT stopped running. Rather than reporting a problem with the Domino, he seems to be asking whether others have had a problem with the FLIRT and whether the same issue will affect the Domino that also has a similar two motor system. I noted this report in passing and have only read it detail tonight. I would not be too concerned about this motor problem, although some of the members reported issues with the FLIRT, none has confirmed a problem with the new Domino. With the new double deck KISS trainset also coming from Liliput this year, I would hope that Liliput-Bachmann would take steps to correct concerns over previous productions.

I have not had any problems with my Basel (521) and Zug (523) FLIRTS (other than a light shine through issue on the original 521) and other than this lighting issue, I was impressed with the new Domino.

If there is a motor problem with the Domino, it is possible that this kit from Renfer can be used to improve the performance:
http://www.morep.ch/uart...triebe/sbbnpzliliput.htm
http://www.morep.ch/uart...ebe/mtr_u14001_umbau.pdf

or this one from SB Modellbau: http://www.sb-modellbau....7f89570b2dff5f875f4f0920

Both were originally intended for the original Liliput (Wien) model, but should still fit the newer versions. Check first with the seller regarding exact compatibility.

I just received a notice from the dealer that the price of the Domino has been credited to my account. I have just completed an order with another dealer (this time in Europe) to replace the model.

Regards

Mike C

Edited by user 10 February 2012 19:46:46(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

My replacement set is on the way. I would have preferred for the US dealer to simply order another one from Bachmann, but as they just said that they had no more, I had no choice but to apply the credit to other orders and to order a new Domino set from one of my European dealers.

I am looking forward to getting it and hope it will not have any motor or lighting problems.

@5HorizonsRR, did you get just the basic 3 unit set or did you opt for the extended 5 unit version using the add-on set?

Regards,

Mike C

Thanks to my friends in the Stuttgart area who seem to be having a lot of sales of late, I now have replaced the problematic RBDe 560 Domino with a new one. I am happy to report that this set has now been on my test track for over 5 minutes and the interior lighting is still functioning. The original dealer has issued a store credit note, so I will apply that to other items on my backorder list.

Regards

Mike C

This new trainset seems much more jerky at slow speeds than my first one was. I will check to see whether it is a Lokpilot that is included with the model. If it is, it should be a simple matter to place the train on my programming track and to adjust the values so that it starts moving much more smoothly. It seems that the jerkiness is caused by the front and rear motors not having the same initial momentum. This could potentially be caused by the length of the wiring between the front and rear units. I will have to look into this a little further and consult one of the Electrical Engineers in the family about my theory.

Regards

Mike C