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 Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 75 Location: in a house
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Does anyone have an alternative for the Marklin spade connector things that connect to the connectors on the bottom of each piece of C track? Paying 5 dollars for 20 is crazy. It should be like 5 dollars for 100 or 50 dollars for 1000. I have been trying to find them on-line at places like Digi-Key but have been hamstrung. It is driving me crazy. I know I could just solder on, but that seems kind of sloppy to me. I searched the forums and could not find that anyone else posed this question. Thanks!
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 Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,692 Location: United Kingdom
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Germany Retail price 4.69 euro (4.69 EUR - 6.20 USD) for pack of 20 but around 4 euro on ebay.
Also Welcome to the forum. |
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Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 75 Location: in a house
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Hello there Steventrain. I guess I could have been Stephentrain had I been more clever. Thanks for the response, and I did check ebay.de and found people selling equivalent 1 Euro for 40 pieces. That is really good but I would have to pay postage from Europe. I was looking for a USA place to buy them at those kind of prices....
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 Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway
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Hello and welcome to this fantastic forum. The cable shoes are rather standard products, often used by car workshops etc. I found this German website http://www.kabelschuhe-shop.de/...khuelse-28x05::4684.htmlSomeone in USA must sell such things as well, I suppose. I prefer to solder the wires myself. |
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Joined: 18/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: South Carolina
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Hello I ran into a similar problem a couple of months age making a holiday layout. I actually needed the male end of the connector as I was using the c-track circuit track on an analog-signal controlled (but digital train control) layout and needed to disconnect the circuit track wires from the digital track return. I searched high and low on websites but could not find the connectors in this small of a size (although I do remember finding one website I needed a minimum order of 1000). Since I only needed the spade (male) I bought the smallest one they had at Radio Shack (can't remember the actual size) and trimmed each side about 1 mm or so with tin snips so it could slide onto the female connector. Worked well. Since you need the female side this tip won't help, but if you do find a place to get them do please post. I too thought it should be easy to find as these spade connectors are very common and it was just a matter of finding a big enough of a supplier that stocked this size. But no such luck. During my web search, I began to wonder if M has them specially made according to these dimensions as this particular size is certainly not standard nor easy to find! Good Luck Regards Laxman Edited by user 22 January 2014 19:56:22(UTC)
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Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 75 Location: in a house
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Hello Svein/Intruder,
I went ahead and got 1000 pieces from the site you quoted for €47.50 EUR including shipping ($64.37).
They took PayPal so I was able to pay right away. That is 6.4 cents each rather than the Marklin price of 27.2 cents each - without shipping!!! Quite a big savings! Thank you for your help as I was at quite a standstill.
Thanks again for your help,
Steve
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 Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,998 Location: Paremata, Wellington
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Originally Posted by: SCWHIPPLE  Hello Svein/Intruder,
I went ahead and got 1000 pieces from the site you quoted for €47.50 EUR including shipping ($64.37).
They took PayPal so I was able to pay right away. That is 6.4 cents each rather than the Marklin price of 27.2 cents each - without shipping!!! Quite a big savings! Thank you for your help as I was at quite a standstill.
Thanks again for your help,
Steve This comment has been hijacked by Winston Smith on behalf of the Ministry of Truth and therefore it never happened.
Problem solved!!
 Still definitely a huge improvement on the original price of twenty five cents each you would have had to pay at $5 for 20 (4 per dollar) If it's any consolation, when I was told as a child to go do my homework, I preferred to play with the trains instead, and Maths/Arithmetic has never been even close to my strong-point. When the fingers and toes ran out, I was pretty much stuffed. Hope that makes you feel ever better !!  Steve Cook (actually "Stephen' but who's counting) - just call me 'cookee' Melbourne Edited by user 30 January 2012 12:50:34(UTC)
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Joined: 01/03/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,339 Location: USA
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Steve, Welcome to the forum, and as you see a great resource and a quick response from Intruder. I faced the same issue and I believe I got more of these from Radio Shack, can't recall the part number. Just ignore the boys from down under, we get the price. Beware there is someone lurking about who blames America for all that is bad in American English and the definition of a Billion.... r/Thomas |
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Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 75 Location: in a house
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Steve Cook,
As you can see, I have always been terrible at mathematics - or is it arithmetic?. Terrible at pretty much everything actually - breathing being the most difficult. I am glad you caught my error and let everyone else know. If it weren't for maths literate people like you the world would fall to bits I am sure. Please keep us on the straight and level!!!
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Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,998 Location: Paremata, Wellington
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Originally Posted by: SCWHIPPLE Steve Cook,
As you can see, I have always been terrible at mathematics - or is it arithmetic?. Terrible at pretty much everything actually - breathing being the most difficult. I am glad you caught my error and let everyone else know. If it weren't for maths literate people like you the world would fall to bits I am sure. Please keep us on the straight and level!!! My post wasn't intended to embarrass you, I am sorry. Sometimes the newcomers misinterpret the humour here, therefore my humble apologies. I actually had to double-check my own maths to make sure I wasn't doing you a dis-service. Regards Steve |
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Joined: 28/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 880 Location: Augusta, GA USA
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I'm missing something. What are you going to do with 1000 pieces?
Eri
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 Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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Originally Posted by: sudibarba I'm missing something. What are you going to do with 1000 pieces?
Eri divide them into 1000  Welcome to the forum, Laxmann off topic I'm the one who asks questions when the answer is impossible to guesss. What is a holiday layout, do you put a loco or carriage or track onto your fishing hook ? do pack it into a suitcase ? Do you ship it overseas ? do you take it along when site seeing do you take photos of it when traveling to different towns and cities and tell people I've been there and everywhere. Do you errect a tent for it ? When booking into a hotel room do you book an extra room ? is this when you leave your wife at home and take the kids and pet animals ? is it when you go on a boring holidays ? are you part of a youth camp holiday ? in case it rains or snows ? and I thought Americans call it a vacation layout ? have they turned the power off at your home and you tell people you are going on a layout holiday ? Do you mean it is an exhibition layout and you take it along while on holidays ? are you using it for transport purposes to get the meat from the tent to the BBQ ? are you using it as shooting target ? or are you teaching native animals howe to play with trains ? I'm sure you've got the right and simple answer for this. Just curious and my 2 cents x 1000 , its just a cheap joke John |
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Joined: 28/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 880 Location: Augusta, GA USA
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After John's reply I am not sure about anything.
Eriv
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 Joined: 23/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 2,061 Location: FRANCE
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Originally Posted by: SCWHIPPLE Does anyone have an alternative for the Marklin spade connector things that connect to the connectors on the bottom of each piece of C track? Paying 5 dollars for 20 is crazy. It should be like 5 dollars for 100 or 50 dollars for 1000. I have been trying to find them on-line at places like Digi-Key but have been hamstrung. It is driving me crazy. I know I could just solder on, but that seems kind of sloppy to me. I searched the forums and could not find that anyone else posed this question. Thanks! Hi SCWHIPPLE, Welcome to the forum. For me, I solder wires directly on them. That's what I've done everywhere on C-tracks and M-tracks. And I never had any troubles. Of course, with C-tracks, you have to take care not to melt the plastic... Regards Joël |
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Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz 6.4c each would be $640 at that price.... ie;
10 of them would have cost you $6.40
100 $64.00
1000 $640.00 I thought if 1 is 6.4c then 10 will be $0.64, 100 will be $6.40, 1000 will be $64.00. It's like that with Deutschmark and Pfennig or with Euro and Cent ... Looks as if he paid 6,437 Cents for 1,000 pieces - or 6.437 Cents (or $0.06437) for each. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Joined: 03/06/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,252 Location: Sydney, NSW
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Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: cookee_nz 6.4c each would be $640 at that price.... ie;
10 of them would have cost you $6.40
100 $64.00
1000 $640.00 I thought if 1 is 6.4c then 10 will be $0.64, 100 will be $6.40, 1000 will be $64.00. It's like that with Deutschmark and Pfennig or with Euro and Cent ... Looks as if he paid 6,437 Cents for 1,000 pieces - or 6.437 Cents (or $0.06437) for each. Tom, you are exactly right. These kiwis make this mistake in rugby, that's why they always win. Regards Greg |
Take it easy . . . . or any other way you can get it !!!!
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Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,998 Location: Paremata, Wellington
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Originally Posted by: youngagain Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: cookee_nz 6.4c each would be $640 at that price.... ie;
10 of them would have cost you $6.40
100 $64.00
1000 $640.00 I thought if 1 is 6.4c then 10 will be $0.64, 100 will be $6.40, 1000 will be $64.00. It's like that with Deutschmark and Pfennig or with Euro and Cent ... Looks as if he paid 6,437 Cents for 1,000 pieces - or 6.437 Cents (or $0.06437) for each. Tom, you are exactly right. These kiwis make this mistake in rugby, that's why they always win. Regards Greg Damn, I was hoping to sneak that one by. I should have put it under the quiz section ???????????? Hard to get one past you's clever Ozzies aye? It seems I have over-made my point, and am now firmly hoisted by my own petard. As for the Rugby, shhhh, don't tell anyone else, perhaps we can get away with it a bit longer....... |
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Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway
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Is this now un-authorised C-track connector?
Who is in charge of the authorised ones? Not me! |
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
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Joined: 08/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Shady Shores, TX - USA
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http://www.radioshack.co...x.jsp?productId=12529264This might be the connector that would fit. Its the smallest that I found. The one good thing about making them your self is that there was a batch of marklin wires that I got that the red and brown wires were not red and brown, but all brown with a marginal red almost brown stripe down the side of one wire. |
DT
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era - some time in the future when the space time continuum is disrupted and ICE 3 Trains run on the same rails as the Adler and BR18's. |
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Joined: 27/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 941 Location: Burney, CA
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Originally Posted by: sudibarba I'm missing something. What are you going to do with 1000 pieces?
Eri Kind of like using an elephant gun to kill a mouse. Dave Pryor PS I solder all track connections because i don't like any mechanical connections between the power source and the track. Bad enough are the connections at the CS or the connector boxes.........  |
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Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,976 Location: CA, USA
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I'm with Dave- solder all the way. Better connection and it won't slip off! |
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Joined: 18/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: South Carolina
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Quote:I'm the one who asks questions when the answer is impossible to guesss.
What is a holiday layout, John Very Good. You made me laugh out loud when I read your post! Glad you asked, though. Around the holidays -Thanksgiving through the New Year (although many retailers begin in October now!!)- Many people in America put up a display to celebrate the festive spirit of the season. These displays range from a simple train track loop around the Christmas Tree or a few Dicken's houses on the dinning room side board to very large and elaborate displays in malls or firehouses. This year we put one up. Attached is a picture. The bottom is an old o-gauge lionel with the larger size christmas village houses. The top level is C-track with a shadow station in the mountain and 4 trains running automatically.    It is designed to be temporary so it would not actually travel well, and packing it up will be a pain. And as you can see it in fact does have its own room so to speak. Its holiday of displaying will of course be coming to a quick end very shortly (once I muster up the courage to pack it into its own special suitcases of cardboard naturally). While not intended to actually teach them how to play with trains, our hope is that the natives (we actually call them children here in America) will be entertained and may persuade the parents to dig out their old trains. I will have to remember if I sell anything on the forum to list the price in cents!! Laxman Edited by user 22 January 2014 20:00:33(UTC)
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Joined: 03/02/2010(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: So Cal
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Hello Dole,
How about a video of the trains running posted on U Tube.
Or here in the form.
And Steve, Welcome to the form, there is a member here fromthe D.C. area.
Rob |
HOac and Z scale running SBB/BLS Era IV-V
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Joined: 24/01/2010(UTC)
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Hello Scwhipple,
There is a ETE Chapter up in Lancaster,Pa. At the last meeting I noticed they have a lot of different type of connectors that they use in making their layout. If you need information where they get their supplies let me know. There are a few of us from Maryland that belong to the Keystone Chapter. By the way I always solder my connections. I have had the spade connectors come off before. If you need any info let me know and I will forward you the phone numbers.
Nelson77
Westminster, Maryland
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Joined: 06/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 883 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Hi Schwipple, I have been out of town on a cruise and I just saw this post. I found something from TE Connectivity's line of connectors at Newark Electronics last summer. The one that probably matches it the best was not available but I found one slightly longer that works perfectly. It is TE Connectivity item number 42067-1. Here is a link to the Newark page: http://www.newark.com/te-connec...n/dp/01H9221?Ntt=42067-1When I first bought them, I caught a sale at $.04 each, better than the 20 for $5.00 or more ($0.25 each) and bought 300. I then bought another 300 at the current price $0.049 each. I crimp them and then solder the wire in the crimp joint. Works fine. Robert
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Joined: 03/02/2010(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: So Cal
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Welcome back Robert
How was the cruise, you made it back in one piece.
Rob |
HOac and Z scale running SBB/BLS Era IV-V
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Joined: 06/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 883 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Hey Rob,
The cruise was great!! Cozumel will never be the same!! LOL!! I did manage to get quite a good sinus cold on the last day but better than one poor lady who fell down some stairs early in the morning on the last day of the cruise, hit her head and died an hour later ...
All that having been said ... a lot of fun!!
Robert
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 Joined: 25/09/2010(UTC) Posts: 417 Location: Sherwood Park, AB, Canada
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It appears that the exact equivalent part number is the TE connectivity 42067-1. It is available in North America at DigiKey under PN A277745CT-ND.
I am going to get a bunch as I see my self with semi-permanent layouts for the next while. I also work on maintaining other peoples layouts and work on the club layout that we set up 2-4 times a year.
Although soldering is indeed the best way, in my case I like the freedom these little guys give me to maintain stuff and move stuff around. Nothing like switching out a troublesome switch in a couple of minutes during a train show!
I fortunately know a couple of electronics guys who routinely order from Digikey and will tag on this order to save on shipping.
I have some insulated spade connectors that are similar in size but they just barely fit under the track. I have the mating blades and have made adaptors for testing switches and other stuff that is designed to fit in the C-track.
We are blessed to have such a wonderful track system that has all these connections and can hid the wire. I have seen a few carpet bahns with wire everywhere and easily pulled! |
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Joined: 06/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 883 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Harold,
I gave that part # in post #25 above. It is actually just a little longer than the Marklin one, but still fits nicely. The one that I believe is the exact length is not carried in stock by anyone that I could find. It is slightly less expensive in smaller quantities at Newark. I but from Newark, Digi-Key, and Mouser a lot and there is no problem placing small orders to hobbyists. For certain items, I also buy from Jameco who are really directed at the hobby market.
Good luck with them!!
Robert
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Joined: 25/09/2010(UTC) Posts: 417 Location: Sherwood Park, AB, Canada
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Yes I should have given credit where credit is due. Thanks for saving me a lot of work by the way. |
Harald
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Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA
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Hi all, If one is going to fiddle with track then use the connectors. If not,learn to solder,.....not that hard and the burns will heal,.....! Dr D
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Joined: 23/09/2011(UTC) Posts: 240 Location: Campbelltown
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I have 28 of connectors similar to the 74995 to goto a good home FOC.
They are Duratech brand and bought from "JayCar Electronics" here in Campbelltown.
I only ask for postage cost, and if postage to Sydney, it'll be nothing.
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