 Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Kirseberg
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Hi all! Today I recieved another loco. It was the limited 30430 Nostalgia model of the swedish RC. 30430 RC3 1016 SJ Length - 1760 mm. Locomotive: Sounds - Fan noise (hidden), horn. Decoder + Motor = MFX with high-efficiency propulsion. Detailment - No Issue on C-tracks. Childen? - Age 6 and over. Couplings – NEM with close couplers included. Coupler hooks installed. Headlight? - 4 Loco body - Plastic. 6021 address coding - 10. 60212/3/4/5 Name at factory - RC3 1016 SJ Traction Tyres? - Four. Functions F0 Headlight. F2 Sound effect: Operating sounds. (Hidden) F3 Sound effect: Horn. F4 ABV. Introduction: This loco was presented as Super-news for Sweden last year and supposed to only be sold by Tåg och Hobby and Lenis lek och Hobby. No one knew what it was until end of January 2011. It was the 30430; a nostalgia loco of the old 3043 but with a new road number and with mFX. It´s a hefty price tag at 288 Euros. Is it worth it? It´s up to you! Technical: The loco is basically the loco from the 26726 loco, but with decoder from the 37416. That means that Märklin has only announced this loco with horn sound, but there´s actually a hidden operating sound which can be accessed by mapping AUX2 to a free function output. Strangely Märklin calls the loco "RC3 1016 SJ" even though it was rebuilt as an RC1. Propably it´s because Märklin used the same decoder as in 37416, which is called "RC3 1057 SJ" in the loco list. Appearance: The model is still presented in length scale 1:100 and represents the first paint scheme of orange/blue. The prototype is currently owned by Green Cargo. Some of the detailing is still wrong. The loco has the old style pantographs and looks alot like the old 7218. Nice paint job, except a scratch in one of the fronts on my loco. Accessories: 2 short couplers are included, nothing more. Summary: An ok loco, you won´t drop your jaw when looking at it. If you´re to buy it, remember it´s a nostalgia loco and should look like the 3043 with some internal upgrades. Strange that the operating sounds are hidden just like on the 37416. I bought mine beause I own all Märklin RC-locos but the silver RC5-repaint and RC 1018 and RC1 1018. Here are some pictures. There are better pictures on Tåg och hobby.      |
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 Joined: 27/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 328
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Well,thanks for these first pictures. I like the RC in this paint scheme. I guess it 'll be rare as 37692, NSB Di3 3.618.
Even more I like the old boxes, so easy to handle. |
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 Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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Thanks for the review, David!  Always liked this loco. I plan to get an original 3043 and convert it to digital myself. |
Ray
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Hmmm...288 euro for an plastic locomotiv is queit too expensive!
Not so much in change either too under 37-40 years. |
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Joined: 27/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 328
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It doesn't really make a big difference in price whether it is diecast or plastic for the body.The engine is made for that shop in Lulea, so either you like it or leave it. I wonder why someone orders a colorsceme that can be found everywhere inside and outside Sweden. 3043 is not rare at all. Buy a 3043 and put in an ESU Loksound- it will be a wonderful engine. So why didn't he order a dark blue one or any other nice paintsceme ? There were and there are plenty of variations possible. 288.-€ and no real soundmodul is a bad offer, I agree.
Compared to the NSB 37692 the engine is overpriced like many other engines. But if the Swedes like it and he can sell them it is ok. |
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Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Kirseberg
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Thanks John!
It´s a nice addition to my collection. It´s my 14th model of the RC-loco, so now I have 4 orange/blue, 4 blue, 4 green, 1 black and 1 AMTRAK-loco. |
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Originally Posted by: 60904  It doesn't really make a big difference in price whether it is diecast or plastic for the body.The engine is made for that shop in Lulea, so either you like it or leave it. I wonder why someone orders a colorsceme that can be found everywhere inside and outside Sweden. 3043 is not rare at all. Buy a 3043 and put in an ESU Loksound- it will be a wonderful engine. So why didn't he order a dark blue one or any other nice paintsceme ? There were and there are plenty of variations possible. 288.-€ and no real soundmodul is a bad offer, I agree.
Compared to the NSB 37692 the engine is overpriced like many other engines. But if the Swedes like it and he can sell them it is ok. With an full metal loco with sounds like "Lollo" or and E17 cost these locomotivs about 250-280 euros. Sorry...i don´t get it about 288 euro for an plastic loco with only one sound!!! That is not worth to get it! I suppose the package is what an "nostalgi" that cost...  |
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Joined: 27/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 328
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The nostalgic box is probably cheaper than the white boxes consisting of numerous pieces. I hate the modern and costly boxes. It takes a lot of time to unpack and pack the items. |
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Originally Posted by: 60904 The nostalgic box is probably cheaper than the white boxes consisting of numerous pieces. I hate the modern and costly boxes. It takes a lot of time to unpack and pack the items. PCP is more dangeroues than plastic box. Maybe nostalgic box is cheaper but i don´t think so since Marklin did quiet this kind form of package. There must been an good reason by acting like that. Locomotiv swedish Rc is an nice model...but not worth for that prices such like 288 euros!!! |
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Joined: 27/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 328
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There is so much of the white stuff around us that I don't see any danger for me or my environment. I saw the engine yesterday. The pantographs are not the old ones from 1968. The package is much bigger. Nevertheless it is a nice engine. |
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Thanks for the review. |
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A nice loco, but I don't see any kind of nostalgia in this model. It's just much too detailed to look nostalgic. This Rc shows what was state-of-the-art in the second half of the 1960ies, which meant detailed reproductions of a real loco in an exact scale, most often with a plastic body.
The tin plate era was over in that decade, as in the late 1950ies most manufacturers had banned tin plate models from their catalogues. The only big firm who continued tin-plate cars was Märklin, that's probably the reason why so many Märklinists connect the 1960ies with tin-plate cars and diecast locos with milk glass windows.
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Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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Originally Posted by: Frankenbahner A nice loco, but I don't see any kind of nostalgia in this model. It's just much too detailed to look nostalgic. This Rc shows what was state-of-the-art in the second half of the 1960ies, which meant detailed reproductions of a real loco in an exact scale, most often with a plastic body.
The tin plate era was over in that decade, as in the late 1950ies most manufacturers had banned tin plate models from their catalogues. The only big firm who continued tin-plate cars was Märklin, that's probably the reason why so many Märklinists connect the 1960ies with tin-plate cars and diecast locos with milk glass windows.
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Florian Hi Florian, I guess Nostalgia is a very personal thing. I find myself most nostalgic about toys from the late '60s and early '70s, which was my childhood era. I am curious about, and have an interest in, earlier items, but don't find that I relate to them as much. My much crumpled and torn copy of the 1974 Marklin catalogue includes the 3043, and I well remember admiring it when flicking through the pages of this catalogue in my early teens. For me, therefore, it is a nostalgic item. I suspect you are mistaken about why so many Marklin enthusiasts collect models from the sixties. I'll bet most of these are men in their late fifties and sixties, and were young boys at the time. The fact that this model was state of the art at the time would have made it even more desireable to a young lad looking at it in the shop window and counting the pennies from his pocket money, which, alas, was never enough! |
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Joined: 27/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 328
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Originally Posted by: RayF Originally Posted by: Frankenbahner A nice loco, but I don't see any kind of nostalgia in this model. It's just much too detailed to look nostalgic. This Rc shows what was state-of-the-art in the second half of the 1960ies, which meant detailed reproductions of a real loco in an exact scale, most often with a plastic body.
The tin plate era was over in that decade, as in the late 1950ies most manufacturers had banned tin plate models from their catalogues. The only big firm who continued tin-plate cars was Märklin, that's probably the reason why so many Märklinists connect the 1960ies with tin-plate cars and diecast locos with milk glass windows.
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Florian I'll bet most of these are men in their late fifties and sixties, and were young boys at the time. The fact that this model was state of the art at the time would have made it even more desireable to a young lad looking at it in the shop window and counting the pennies from his pocket money, which, alas, was never enough! That's the point my friends. We are fullfilling our childhood dreams. |
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Quote:That's the point my friends. We are fullfilling our childhood dreams.
That is right on. My first two loco's as an adult came with a digital starter set (as I needed the whole set up MS, track, transformer etc.) The next thing I bought (because I could finally afford it) was the 39560 Swiss Green Crocodile. That was the one loco I wanted my dad to buy for our layout when I was a kid. I loved that engine. I looked at it in every catalog. I spent hours going through the catalogs and dreaming,wishing about the swiss crocodile. Alas, we could not afford such a luxury. But my dad did get me the 3022 Green German Crocodile for my 12 or 13th birthday and I still have it and have just converted it to digital and it of course still runs great. But the Swiss Crocodile is my childhood dream loco. I just ordered my second Crocodile; the 39565 brown Crocodile with a SDS and sound. It should be here by the end of the week. As the saying goes: "The only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys!" Dole
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 Joined: 01/05/2010(UTC) Posts: 303 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
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Hi All 2 years ago I bought a loco with the markings RC1010. There is no other identification, not even a manufacturer name. I have even removed the body and found no identification marks on the inside either. It is an analogue loco, I have run it, and it runs very smoothly. It has a metal frame with a plastic body and four traction tyres. I was hoping someone would be able to shed some light on other manufacturers who perhaps build locos without any manufacturer markings. Unfortunately I got it without a box. Pictures are posted. Regards, Jay Jay attached the following image(s):
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Joined: 01/05/2010(UTC) Posts: 303 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
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Hi
Sorry still having problems loading pictures. Will try again tomorrow.
Jay
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Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Kirseberg
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Jay. That is the older version 3043. I´ve just checked mine and it doesn´t say anywhere who made it. RC 1010 was the first version of the loco. Then came the RC 1018 (Which was a mistypo) and later the RC1 1018. They all were sold under "3043". |
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Joined: 01/05/2010(UTC) Posts: 303 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
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Hi David
Thank you very much for clearing that up for me,for a moment there I thought there was some secret manufacturer building models equal
to Marklin and perhaps at a much cheaper price.Some part of me is glad there is no equal.!!!
Jay
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Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 986 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm
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It's too bad that it manages to install a decoder type that can not be upgraded with a new sound project  Strangely  Rc locomotive came later after the Norwegian Di3 618 who received a better decoder. |
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