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Offline ozzman  
#1 Posted : 08 December 2011 01:48:52(UTC)
ozzman

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I think this topic has been posted before, and if so I apologise for raising it again, but for some reason the search facility keeps on getting an error.

What I'm after is a link to a website which provides information to the composition of Swiaa passenger trains. I'm particularly interested in trains which include sleeping coaches.
Gary
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"Never let the prototype get in the way of a good layout"
Offline mike c  
#2 Posted : 08 December 2011 02:35:55(UTC)
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Gary,

the site you are probably looking for is www.reisezuege.ch. Unfortunately, the SBB has divested itself of most of it's night train rolling stock. The Eurofima type Bcm have been transferred to Ralpin for ROLA traffic on the Simplon-Loetschberg and Gotthard routes. The WLAB have been sold to private operators in Germany and Holland.

The only scheduled night trains running into or through Switzerland today are the OBB trains to Vienna/Budapest (EN Wiener Walzer), to Graz/Belgrade (EN Zuerichsee), the CNL (DB) train to Zuerich/Brig/Milano and the SNCF-FS "Artesia" Euro Night through trains Paris-Vallorbe-Simplon Domodossola-Milano and Paris-Simplon-Venice.

Gone are the days of the D468/469, the classic "Alberg Express" which had already had it's terminal moved from Austria to Chur, the famous "Holland-Italien Express", "Riviera Express" and even the EN "Luna" made up of Trenitalia and SBB stock. The "Artesia" connections will be next to go, as France-Italy connections are replaced by a private operator train using the Modane/Frejus tunnel route via Torino instead of the Simplon.

A good site showing examples of recreating some of these trains is http://e.bournez.free.fr/Eurocity.html

Here are some ideas of models to reproduce some of these consists:

EN Stendthal/Palatino (Paris-Simplon-Italy)
37460 - Roco45386 - 45386 - ACME55033.1 - 55033.2 - 55033.3 - FS WR (Roco or ACME) - Roco 45386
Re 460 - SNCF B9c9 - B9c9 - FS Bcx - Bcx - WLABmz - WRmz - SNCF B9c9
(at 16:15)

EN Luna Zuerich-Bern
37356 - ACME55034.1 - 55034.2 - 55034.3 - 55034.4 - 55035.3
Re 4/4II - SBB Bcm - SBB Bcm - FS WLABm - FS WLABm - SBB Bcm


Bern-Domodossola
37460 - ACME55035.3 - 55034.4 - 55034.3 - 55034.2 - 55034.1
Re 460 - SBB Bcm - FS WLABm - WLABm - SBB Bcm - SBB Bcm

Geneva - Brig
37344 - ACME55035.1 - 55035.2 - Roco45328 - 45327 - 44965
Re 4/4II - FS WLABm - SBB Bcm - EWIVB - EWIVA - EWIVB (Old livery)

In Brig, the Bcm and WLABm are joined to the Zuerich-Bern train and proceed together south to Domodossola and Italy.

D 468/469 (Basel-Zuerich Re 460/Zuerich-Chur Re 4/4II) (2004)
Lok - Roco45118 - 45118.1 - 45386 - 45386 - Jouef WLABm - Roco 45328 - 45327 - 64364
Lok - SNCF B10 - B10 Velo - B9C9 - B9c9 - FS WLABm - SBB EWIVB - SBB EWIVA - SBB EWIIB


EN 466/467 (Basel-Zuerich-Sargans-Buchs-Feldkirch-Arlberg-Vienna-Budapest)
37341 - Memoba*/LSM97002.1 - 97002.2 - LSM Bcmz - LSM Bcmz - ACME 52030 - 52011
Re 4/4II - OBB WLABm (ex CNL) - WLBm (ex CNL) - Bcmz - Bcmz - MAV WLABm - MAV Bmz
*Limited production available through www.memoba.at


Unfortunately, Maerklin does not at present manufacture any night train rolling stock. For classic night trains, you can combine the Trix 23414 "Riviera Express" set along with Fleischmann sleepers in the same 1/93 scale.
Roco makes models of SBB sleepers and couchettes in the latest colours in 1/100 that can be combined with the 4365-4369 coaches for a nice train as well.

Other than that, there are models of the RENFE/SNCF Talgo night train that runs from Zuerich to Spain via Geneva (Electrotren) and LSM's models of the CityNightLine consists in blue/yellow and red/white of which the series has not yet been completed in HO. The BDcmz, WRm and Bpm Sleeperette have yet to be produced
You can check the available CNL models at TEE USA, www.reisezugwagen.eu, www.bahnorama.ch, www.eyro.ch or maybe at Eurotrainhobby in NJ as well. The consists are described on the reisezuge.ch site.

You can also check out the following site (in French) http://www.belrail.be/F/.../intl/classique/old.html This site lists the Belgium to Switzerland and Belgium to Italy night trains and has photos and some model details.

Regards

Mike C
Offline ozzman  
#3 Posted : 08 December 2011 02:57:57(UTC)
ozzman

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Many thanks Mike. It looks like http://www.reisezuege.ch/reisezuege/index.php is exactly what I was after.

To be quite frank, I don't particularly mind that the SBB no longer runs much in the way of night trains. My SBB operations are to be set at an indeterminate time in the not too far distant past (if that makes sense). I already have one Bcm and will probably get a second one soon and I just wanted to get a general idea of how they fitted into more or less generic SBB trains.

Thanks also for the suggested model catalogue numbers, however I'm a Z scaler.
Gary
Z Scale
"Never let the prototype get in the way of a good layout"
Offline mike c  
#4 Posted : 09 December 2011 02:07:09(UTC)
mike c

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Gary:

Have you seen any of the SBB coaches made by Swiss Z Lines or by Zettzeit? I have also seen Re 4/4 and Re 6/6 and other models as well.

Regards

Mike C
Offline ozzman  
#5 Posted : 09 December 2011 02:58:09(UTC)
ozzman

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Thanks Mike. They look pretty good, but they're a bit out of my budget league. Which is a great pity because M* don't make a model of the Re4/4 in Z and I'd really like to have a couple of them - red or green would be OK. Both would be better! :-))
Gary
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