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Offline Tower  
#1 Posted : 14 November 2011 07:15:00(UTC)
Tower


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Hi,

For some silly reason I decided to concentrate my collection around American models. Does anyone know how many US Locomotive types Marklin has made in HO?

The ones I have on my list are:

1. The Big Boy
2. The Mikado
3. The F7's
4. The GG1's
5. The PA1's
6. The Amtrak ICE
7. The Amtrak X995

Any I am missing?

Thanks

Leon

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Offline mike c  
#2 Posted : 14 November 2011 07:34:04(UTC)
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To the best of my recollection, you have pretty much listed all of the models of American prototypes that were made by Maerklin with the exception of the two models of the Northlander trainsets (ex-SBB/NS RAm/DE TEE) set numbers 3150 and 37500.

Regards

Mike C
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Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#3 Posted : 14 November 2011 09:09:08(UTC)
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Hi Leon,

Seems fairly complete to me except for the 2 Northlanders Mike has mentioned.

If you want any US stuff check out the US page on modellbahn.com. Good folks
to work with.

http://www.modellbahn.co...rsale.northamerican.html

Jeremy.

ps. If you wanted to get "picky" you could include this..Marklin 37914
Jeremy Palmer attached the following image(s):
US Transportation Corps..jpg
Jeremy.

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2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
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Offline Western Pacific  
#4 Posted : 14 November 2011 09:27:33(UTC)
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Extending the topic a bit - what do you think the chances are that Märklin would make US versions of TRAXX locos?

An example here.
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Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 14 November 2011 10:18:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Western Pacific Go to Quoted Post
what do you think the chances are that Märklin would make US versions of TRAXX locos?
Märklin want to grow in the American market - primarily with LGB.

There would be two different approaches for H0 models: colour variation (cheaper) and form variation (more expensive).
Now that I saw prototype pictures, I'm not interested in a simple colour variation.
I'd consider buying a form variation.

Would it generate profit for Märklin? I'm afraid an H0 model would not.
Regards
Tom
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Online RayF  
#6 Posted : 14 November 2011 11:20:40(UTC)
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I know it's not a very serious model, but no-one has mentioned the 2921/2922 "western" set made by Marklin years ago. The loco is based on the 3087 KLVM steamer with added cowcatcher and no buffers, and it's lettered for the Texas and Western RR. The cabboose was, I think, unique to this set too. Maddog trains has one for sale at the moment, including extra cars.

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Offline Nielsenr  
#7 Posted : 14 November 2011 18:05:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jeremy Palmer Go to Quoted Post
Hi Leon,

Seems fairly complete to me except for the 2 Northlanders Mike has mentioned.

If you want any US stuff check out the US page on modellbahn.com. Good folks
to work with.

http://www.modellbahn.co...rsale.northamerican.html

Jeremy.

ps. If you wanted to get "picky" you could include this..Marklin 37914


I agree with Jeremy on Modellbahn. I have dealt with Will a couple of times including a purchase over the weekend. Very good to deal with.

Robert
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Offline Tower  
#8 Posted : 14 November 2011 19:00:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
I know it's not a very serious model, but no-one has mentioned the 2921/2922 "western" set made by Marklin years ago. The loco is based on the 3087 KLVM steamer with added cowcatcher and no buffers, and it's lettered for the Texas and Western RR. The cabboose was, I think, unique to this set too. Maddog trains has one for sale at the moment, including extra cars.



Thanks Ray, I must confess, I used my 3087 from the "Circus Mondolino" set, painted it black and added a few "Santa Few" decals. It now runs as my track cleaning car coupled to a few weighed down red dump cars. Not proto-typical but does a great job. I must look for that cow catcher as an add-on somewhere.

Jeremy, What is the American connection to the 37914? - Sorry, a check on the Marklin website explained it to me!

I always thought the Northlander was pulled by F7's in the Marklin collection, I know now better.

A silly just for fun question. As a Canadian (Swiss) locomotive does it really qualify to be called "American". I am sure our Canadian members will ave an opinion on this. Confused

Thanks

Leon
Offline Nielsenr  
#9 Posted : 14 November 2011 20:04:52(UTC)
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Leon, I guess it would depend upon your definition of America. Is it a country (United States of America) or continental (South/North America)? Just having some fun!! LOL!!

Robert
Offline Western Pacific  
#10 Posted : 14 November 2011 20:57:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Tower Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
I know it's not a very serious model, but no-one has mentioned the 2921/2922 "western" set made by Marklin years ago. The loco is based on the 3087 KLVM steamer with added cowcatcher and no buffers, and it's lettered for the Texas and Western RR. The cabboose was, I think, unique to this set too. Maddog trains has one for sale at the moment, including extra cars.



Thanks Ray, I must confess, I used my 3087 from the "Circus Mondolino" set, painted it black and added a few "Santa Few" decals. It now runs as my track cleaning car coupled to a few weighed down red dump cars. Not proto-typical but does a great job. I must look for that cow catcher as an add-on somewhere.

Jeremy, What is the American connection to the 37914? - Sorry, a check on the Marklin website explained it to me!

I always thought the Northlander was pulled by F7's in the Marklin collection, I know now better.

A silly just for fun question. As a Canadian (Swiss) locomotive does it really qualify to be called "American". I am sure our Canadian members will ave an opinion on this. Confused

Thanks

Leon


Taking a different view on the definition of American one could also debate whether X995 is American.

If one would take the definition of American to mean the American continent (or at least North America) and then question the Northlander train as being of Swiss origin and bought "pre-owned" and thereby question it as being American. In that case the X995 is even more questionable.

The X995 (Märklin 83341) was a model based on the Swedish SJ class Rc and the prototype was a matter of fact the SJ Rc4 1166 that made a "guest appearance" with Amtrak in 1976-1977 as the X995. Once back in Sweden it had stainless steel plates telling about it on the outside of the cabs. From what I've learned they were stolen and even later when being re-painted in SJ's blue livery all signs of the USA visit have been removed.

I have a vague memory of having taken a photo of the commemorative sign on Rc4 1166 when it was still in the orange livery, but being a slide, I really don't know where it is. (To scan my slides and make a more easily searched digital archive is on my "to do list").

Edit on November 15th:

I found my slides. They were shot on July 5th, 1980 at the SJ loko depot in Gothenburg. First a picture of SJ Rc4 1166 with a yellow ring showing where the commemorative sign was located:

1166

and then the sign itself:

1166 skylt

It reads:

Detta elektrolok litt Rc4 nr 1166

var utlånat till Amtrack i USA under

tiden augusti 1976 - april 1977.

Med litt X995 gick loket i reguljär

trafik mellan New York och Washington

och kördes med upp till sth 200 km/h.

(NB sth = största tillåtna hastiget = maximum allowed speed)


And a quick translation:

This electric locomotive class Rc4 No 1166

was lent to Amtrack in the U.S. during

the time August 1976 - April 1977.

As class X995 the locomotive went in regular

traffic between New York and Washington

and ran up to maximum allowed speed of 200 km/h.

Edited by user 15 November 2011 12:16:13(UTC)  | Reason: Typing error and adding pictures

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Offline Western Pacific  
#11 Posted : 15 November 2011 12:36:00(UTC)
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The SJ Rc4 1166 (without yellow ring) also known as Amtrak X995:

SJ Rc4 1166
Offline Brakeman  
#12 Posted : 15 November 2011 13:20:50(UTC)
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Leon,
one nice F7 set is the #26600 California Zephyr -train.
At least it's in my wishlist!

www.amerklin.net has a pretty good list what's been made over the years:
http://www.amerklin.net/catalog/itemlist.php

BR,
Juha



Originally Posted by: Tower Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

For some silly reason I decided to concentrate my collection around American models. Does anyone know how many US Locomotive types Marklin has made in HO?

The ones I have on my list are:

1. The Big Boy
2. The Mikado
3. The F7's
4. The GG1's
5. The PA1's
6. The Amtrak ICE
7. The Amtrak X995

Any I am missing?

Thanks

Leon


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Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#13 Posted : 15 November 2011 15:36:47(UTC)
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Well spotted Juha, how did we miss itOhMyGod OhMyGod

Jeremy.

ps. Good Zephyr video here:



(notice chair lift ar 2.22).j.
Jeremy.

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2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
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Offline Tower  
#14 Posted : 16 November 2011 08:08:05(UTC)
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Hi Juha,

I agree, that is why I got the Amtrak set.

http://imageshack.us/pho...images/64/amtrakset.jpg/

Regards

Leon

Edited by user 19 November 2011 08:14:30(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Offline marklinsa  
#15 Posted : 16 November 2011 09:17:09(UTC)
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Leon

I have one of those short cabooses which you can have - drop me a mail
Herman Steyn
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Offline Tower  
#16 Posted : 17 November 2011 09:25:31(UTC)
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Thanks Herman, I've sent you a mail.

Regards

Leon
Offline 60904  
#17 Posted : 17 November 2011 18:27:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Western Pacific Go to Quoted Post
Extending the topic a bit - what do you think the chances are that Märklin would make US versions of TRAXX locos?

An example here.


I would buy it at once!
Best regards
Martin
Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#18 Posted : 17 November 2011 19:45:38(UTC)
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The X995 in the later Sweedish Orange with plaques would be sa nice model for Marklin to do a run of- with zero tooling costs!
SBB Era 2-5
Offline Western Pacific  
#19 Posted : 17 November 2011 20:46:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
The X995 in the later Sweedish Orange with plaques would be sa nice model for Marklin to do a run of- with zero tooling costs!


It is in principle a nice idea and I would probably buy one. I have the X995.

However there are some differences visible in the design of bogies and I believe also of the air vent inlets at the edge of the roof as well as the "boxes" between bogies between Rc1, Rc2 and Rc3 on the one hand and Rc4, Rc5, Rc6 and Rc7 on the other hand. (Then there are internal differences like different control electronics [thyristors etc.] inside, but that of course doesn't matter for making models).

It could though be an idea if the tooling needs to be updated to do a new version which could simplify producing Rc4 through Rc7 in different era and livery versions. (As a side remark all Rc5 [geared for 135 km/h] have been converted to Rc6 [geared for 160 km/h] and the few Rc7s [geared for 180 km/h] have been converted back to Rc6).
Offline EuroKev  
#20 Posted : 26 November 2011 20:31:46(UTC)
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I would buy a marklin X995 if I could find one. I would like to have one just because I find it interesting. I just learned somthing today. I never knew that the X995 went back to Europe. That is really interesting. thanks
Kev
Offline Tower  
#21 Posted : 26 November 2011 20:41:19(UTC)
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Kev,

I had my eye on this one but found a nice Mikado instead, so she's yours!

Amtrak X995

Leon
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Offline Brakeman  
#22 Posted : 13 November 2024 04:43:22(UTC)
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We at ETE SoCal ran one time American Märklin models on our modular layout.
Not very prototypical with all possible road names, but who cares, the scenery doesn’t match either.
It was fun!

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#23 Posted : 13 November 2024 08:54:07(UTC)
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Nice trains, location and layouts. I love the tall chair, too. Is it for the MRR umpire?

Hi-Chair.jpg
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Offline rbonet  
#24 Posted : 13 November 2024 10:39:55(UTC)
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Has anybody mentioned the Challenger?

Rafael
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Offline owidgie  
#25 Posted : 13 November 2024 20:14:32(UTC)
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Challenger and ES44 AC.

Then the is the TMY in Great Northern ;)

Rick
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Offline FastEddie  
#26 Posted : 18 December 2024 20:26:00(UTC)
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If memory serves, there was a switch loco made by Marklin with US Army marked on it from the early days of post war occupation in Germany but I don't remember if it was a US loco or a German switch engine stamped with US Army.

Ed
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Offline rhfil  
#27 Posted : 18 December 2024 21:00:14(UTC)
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I was stationed in Berlin Germany in the late 60's and the U.S. operated a train between Frankfurt and Berlin as part of an agreement . Sadly, though I rode on it once I have no idea what the engine was nor the car I rode in. But I am relatively certain that it operated until the Wall came down. I can not remember or find the agreement though I had a copy of the portion that limited the scope of my responsibilities. I thought it was either Tripartite or Quadripartite Agreement.
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Offline Eurobahnfan  
#28 Posted : 18 December 2024 21:25:44(UTC)
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I was stationed in Berlin from May of ‘89 to April ‘93 and took the Duty Train to Frankfurt and back several times. If memory serves, it ran officially until unification in October of ‘90. I still have my movement orders, aka “Flag Orders” and boarding passes. As it operated at night, there wasn’t much to see of the GDR. I’ve thought of reaching out to my various FB groups to see if anyone has more information about the equipment used… there HAS to be a former conductor or two still around.
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Offline mike c  
#29 Posted : 19 December 2024 03:31:33(UTC)
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I seem to recall that most of the couchette coaches originally used by USATC were sold to International Apfelpfeil Organization (IAO). Thereafter, US used rented regular DB coaches for the run between Frankfurt and Berlin and for troop movements during exercises.
Traction was AFAIR provided by the DB. I do not know whether DB locomotives were used on the transit section between Helmstedt and Berlin.
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Offline marklinist5999  
#30 Posted : 19 December 2024 12:44:27(UTC)
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My dad was stationed at a US army munitions facility as a warehouse inventory staffer from 1953 to 55 in France, but not far from Zweibrucken Germany. He told me that the trains used to transport troops from Saarbrucken were smaller cars and quite noisy.
I don't have any photos of the train, only a few of the base with fellow officers, one has Charleroix written on the back, but I looked it up and it seems to be in Belgium.
Offline Brakeman  
#31 Posted : 10 February 2025 19:16:53(UTC)
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We did it again!
Unbeatable Märklin pulling power with classic tinplate and newer plastic cars.





Originally Posted by: Brakeman Go to Quoted Post
We at ETE SoCal ran one time American Märklin models on our modular layout.
Not very prototypical with all possible road names, but who cares, the scenery doesn’t match either.
It was fun!

?feature=shared


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Offline Bill L  
#32 Posted : 14 February 2025 01:14:14(UTC)
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Question for Brakeman in Post #31. In the first video at 1:08 minutes I see several yellow UP passenger cars that do not appear to be Marklin made.
What brand are they and were any modifications done to make them run well on Marklin C tracks. Were the wheels changed, and what wheels were used?
Thanks.
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Offline Brakeman  
#33 Posted : 25 February 2025 05:20:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bill L Go to Quoted Post
Question for Brakeman in Post #31. In the first video at 1:08 minutes I see several yellow UP passenger cars that do not appear to be Marklin made.
….



Those are Bachmann Spectrum heavyweights. The wheels were not changed, I bet they’re RP25s.
The tiny flanges work on the long 22-series turn-outs when going straight.


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Offline klarinettmeister  
#34 Posted : 26 February 2025 12:30:49(UTC)
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I can't see the FEF 37984 mentioned.
It's a beautiful locomotive with synchronized smoke. The smoke unit broke immediately and I sent it back to my dealer.

My dealer got new replacement parts from Märklin which didn't work so they had to send it back to Märklin. It took a year to get it back but now the steam works.
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