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James		#1 Posted : 21 April 2011 00:50:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 384 Location: Alberta		Hello: I am currently trying to catalogue my collection (again) and I am trying to describe my tender loks. However, due to turn table restrictions many of the German tender loks came fitted with a variety of tenders to accomodate the various table sizes around Germany. For example, I know that Wikipedia describes the BR 01 lok being fitted with at least 3 tender styles (2'2' 30/32/34). However, that's as far as it goes. My question is, is there any place on the web that describes the differences between tenders? Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks Regards
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H0		#2 Posted : 23 April 2011 09:02:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Hi! I don't know (yet) where to find this information on the web. The 2'2 T 30 was 70 cm shorter than the 2'2' T 32, allowing the BR 01 to be turned on 20 m turntables. With a 2'2' T 32 the BR 01 could be turned on 23 m turntables. Build: 1925 Coal: 10 t Water: 30 m³ Length: 7950 mm 2'2' T 32: Build: 1925 Coal: 10 t Water: 32 m³ Length: 8650 mm 2'2' T 34: Build: 1936 Coal: 10 t Water: 34 m³ Length: 8645 mm Please note: the Märklin turntable 7286 is a 27 m standard turntable. Only the locos 01 001 through 01 010 (1925) were delivered with the short tenders (2'2 T 30), the others (1927 or later) came with the longer types. But in the '60s, DB used some BR 01 locos with the short tenders in northern Germany because those locomotives could be turned on the shorter turntables in the Netherlands, too.
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kbvrod		#3 Posted : 23 April 2011 13:03:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA		Hi Tom,all, Quote: Please note: the Märklin turntable 7286 is a 27 m standard turntable. A 27m TT was quiet rare,... Dr D


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river6109		#4 Posted : 23 April 2011 13:14:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,879 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Besides the size of a turntable and different tenders there are a lot of aerial photos showing used and disused turntables along major rail lines. John
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H0		#5 Posted : 23 April 2011 21:48:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: kbvrod A 27m TT was quiet rare,... Well, standard sizes included 16 m, 20 m, 23 m, and 26 m. All BR 03 locomotives were delivered with 2'2' T 32 tenders, so there must have been enough 23 m turntables at the time of delivery (at the relations where those express train locomotives were used). Like the BR 01, some received 2'2 T 30 tenders during their DB days to make them fit onto 20 m TTs - those that hauled trains to the Netherlands. Others were equipped with 2'2' T 34 tenders at that time. Many steam locomotives were dumped in eras III and IV - and sometimes their tenders were used for other locomotives. One class 24 steamer was used with a 2'2' T 26 tender, many BR 38.10-40 locos got tub tenders from dumped BR 52 locomotives.
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kbvrod		#6 Posted : 23 April 2011 22:05:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA		Hi all, Quote: Well, standard sizes included 16 m, 20 m, 23 m, and 26 m, As it went.22/23 meter was 'standard'as it would fit most dampfloks at that time.The BR 10 did not and only ran on a certain routes. Quote: All BR 03 locomotives were delivered with 2'2' T 32 tenders, so there must have been enough 23 m turntables at the time of delivery (at the relations where those express train locomotives were used). Like the BR 01, some received 2'2 T 30 tenders during their DB days to make them fit onto 20 m TTs - those that hauled trains to the Netherlands. Others were equipped with 2'2' T 34 tenders at that time. Many steam locomotives were dumped in eras III and IV - and sometimes their tenders were used for other locomotives. One class 24 steamer was used with a 2'2' T 26 tender, many BR 38.10-40 locos got tub tenders from dumped BR 52 locomotives. Good point.Length over puffers don't count.Wheel base does. One can read,with suitable magnification,what the tender is,coal/water capacity and type.It is printed on the sides. Dr D


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