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What are the chances Marklin would produce a Garrett type engine?
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Offline kariosls37  
#51 Posted : 13 April 2011 23:36:43(UTC)
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Technically speaking, a Garrett is not a Mallet. On Mallet's only the front engine swings out(contary to M*'s BB, as the rear engine hinges on the model to get it around curves)
A Garrett is two engine units with water and coal supplies on top of it, with the boiler and cab slung between them, sort of like a crocodile, with the noses on the power units and the cab in between it.

Another interesing type of engine is the Fairlie. It is the father of all modern bogie engines. Double Fairlies have one cab, two boilers and two enginee units that are hinged in the same way of a bogie. Single Fairlies are more conventional with one boiler, one engine unit under the boiler and a normal bogie under the coal space.

Kimball,
In the "there's a prototype for everything department" I've found a standard gauge Beyer-Garrett for express trains. it is the Algerian branch of the Paris, Lyons & Meditterean Co's 231-132BT class.
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#52 Posted : 14 April 2011 00:24:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kariosls37 Go to Quoted Post
Technically speaking, a Garrett is not a Mallet. On Mallet's only the front engine swings out(contary to M*'s BB, as the rear engine hinges on the model to get it around curves)
A Garrett is two engine units with water and coal supplies on top of it, with the boiler and cab slung between them, sort of like a crocodile, with the noses on the power units and the cab in between it.

Another interesing type of engine is the Fairlie. It is the father of all modern bogie engines. Double Fairlies have one cab, two boilers and two enginee units that are hinged in the same way of a bogie. Single Fairlies are more conventional with one boiler, one engine unit under the boiler and a normal bogie under the coal space.

Kimball,
In the "there's a prototype for everything department" I've found a standard gauge Beyer-Garrett for express trains. it is the Algerian branch of the Paris, Lyons & Meditterean Co's 231-132BT class.


Hi Rick, I bow to you but I knew I was wrong in using the name Mallett for the Garrett. A Garrett is a Garrett and a Mallett is that and a Big Boy is something else, special !BigGrin
So an AE8/14 is an electric Fairlie then ? no ?Blushing
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#53 Posted : 14 April 2011 01:07:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kariosls37 Go to Quoted Post

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Kimball,
In the "there's a prototype for everything department" I've found a standard gauge Beyer-Garrett for express trains. it is the Algerian branch of the Paris, Lyons & Meditterean Co's 231-132BT class.


Hi Rick,

True.

And indeed both the London and North eastern Railway, and the London Midland and Scottish had a few Garretts as well.

On the LNER, one was built (3 cylinders on each of the two engines, the only 6 cylinder steam loco in the world) and it ended its days primarily as a banking engine on the Lickey incline.
On the LMS they (there were 33 of 2-6-0 + 0-6-2) were used on coal trains.


If Marklin and Trix wanted to enter the UK and world market with a BANG, they could do worse than build a model of this LNER prototype, which was a 2-8-0 + 0-8-2 engine with 6 cylinders, and reportedly the largest and most powerful loco ever built in Britain. It also used the very successful frames, driving, wheels and motion of the LNER 02 class which would make a reasonable model in itself. Add a pony truck under the firebox, and you have the basis for one of Gresley's streamlined experimentals.... and so on and so on.....I am really "rabbiting" now as my wife would say......

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Kimball
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Offline kariosls37  
#54 Posted : 14 April 2011 01:31:44(UTC)
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You've almost got it GlenWink
A Garrett is a Garrett
A real Big Boy is a Mallet
A Marklin Big boy is a compromise
This is Josephine
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Image borrowed from The New Zealand rolling Stock Register http://www.maciulaitis.com/nzrolling/nzr_steam
She's a double Fairlie. One of the two built for the Dunedin and Port Chalmers Railway. Her sister was called Rose. Josephine is now enjoying retirement in the Otago Settlers Museum.

This is R 28, a single fairlie.
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borrowed from a nice little blog about little NZ trains http://motoriseddandruff.blogsp...m/search/label/Prototype
Whoops.
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Borrowed from http://www.nzrailphotos.co.cc/locos/index.html
The picture shows quite well the features of a Fairlie. If an ordinary engine tried to do this it would have been swimming with the fishes.
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Offline shannon  
#55 Posted : 14 April 2011 04:15:49(UTC)
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my friend assembled a brass kit of garrett whose prototype is used in Darjeeling India.

http://www.tts.tw/forum/...178bf595d8a71b7614a14590
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Offline rmsailor  
#56 Posted : 14 April 2011 14:09:14(UTC)
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For any one interested in Garratt locomotives, I would suggest they try and get hold of "Garratt locomotives of the World" by the late A. E. Durrant, published by David and Charles in 1981. A quick check of Amazon and Abe books reveal several available at reasonable prices.

And if you want to see Garrats in steam, visit the Welsh Highland Railway/ Festiniog Railway where they have several along with a number of Fairlies.

Bob M.
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Offline GSRR  
#57 Posted : 06 July 2011 22:35:04(UTC)
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My Australian Garratt is under construction.


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John





John,

any further news from Eureka on this model? Did you receive it yet?


r/Thomas

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