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Offline Kodiak  
#1 Posted : 16 February 2011 09:51:21(UTC)
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Hello

I have been thinking about joining the insider club, but here in Melbourne, Australia it seems to be quite hard to do, I know about Nathans trains website but it seems out dated.

How much benefit is it to join? I know about the wagon? when do I need to sign up before to get that? and I get the latest catalogue at the end of the year to I believe. What about the Magazine? how often does it come out, and is it in English? is the same as the German version?

I'm thinking of buying the BR50.40 and its freight cars, can I order this from Lokshop and pay their nicely discounted price for it?

Basicly I know almost nothing, help me out guys.
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Offline Ian555  
#2 Posted : 16 February 2011 10:03:26(UTC)
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Hi John,

Interesting topic, I'm also not a member of the Insider Club.

Let's see what the benefits are, if any.

Ian.
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Offline nevw  
#3 Posted : 16 February 2011 11:39:19(UTC)
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OK, to get the free Insider Car and buy the Insider Loco and get the Year Book must be a member before FEBRUARY of the year.

2 Magazines the Marklin Magazine and the Insider Magazise both 6 Issues a year.
Both are about half ths size of the German Issues. MM about 64 pages V 128 and Insiders 16 V 24-32)
Can take up to 2-3 moths to arrive . Used to be ( for ONE Year only) 14-18 Days back to about 2 months PLUS.

Depends on point of viesw. SOme interesting information and track plans etc. advice on layout building and info on upcoming models.

Value for money depends on you.

Control of the Insiders Club has been taken away from Local Distributors and centralised in Germany. You can join up from the Marklin German Site (Difficult) or Via Toottoot in NZ or the Marklin US Site. all Easy.

Very difficult to communicate with at times.

Nev
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#4 Posted : 16 February 2011 12:59:33(UTC)
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Hi John,

If I were yourself, I would phone Marklin one night (after 9pm your time),
0011 49 71 61608222,
give the lady or man your credit card number and say you want to join the Insider Club, but insist at the same time that they air mail the order forms for the Insider models for 2011. Be quite firm about that.

Don't be put off by their brusqueness or apparently rude phone manner (some might call it arrogant) - they tend to be that way by nature, but are really quite big teddy bears underneath. (I know, I have a son-in-law who comes from Germany).

Anyway, give it a try. The man Noel at Nathans Trains is away in Malaysia at the moment, so there is little point in phoning him.

regards
Kimball
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Offline Kodiak  
#5 Posted : 17 February 2011 07:11:25(UTC)
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so it sounds like what your saying Kimball is that the only way to get the BR50.40 is through marklin itself? is this right? does anybody know how much the full set is going to set me back?
John and his M track, the only way to train. Now with added C track and bonus K track.
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User is suspended until 24/11/2846 07:19:16(UTC) Bigdaddynz  
#6 Posted : 17 February 2011 08:41:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Kodiak Go to Quoted Post
so it sounds like what your saying Kimball is that the only way to get the BR50.40 is through marklin itself? is this right? does anybody know how much the full set is going to set me back?



No, you should be able to get the Insider models off ebay, after they have been delivered to members. However, belonging to the club is the only way to guarantee that you get these items. As for cost, I was just talking to one of our Marklin club members, and he reckoned about $1600 NZD ($1200 AUD).
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#7 Posted : 17 February 2011 08:41:56(UTC)
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Hi John,
I am suggesting contact Marklin for the initial joining.
After that, the Insider model ordering and distribution is handled by Nathans Trains.
The Insider model will only turn up in Australia around the end of the year, so you have plenty of time to save for it.
My guess on cost is around $700, it is listed at Marklin.de as 430 Euros.

regards
Kimball
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#8 Posted : 17 February 2011 08:51:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
....... However, belonging to the club is the only way to guarantee that you get these items. As for cost, I was just talking to one of our Marklin club members, and he reckoned about $1600 NZD ($1200 AUD).


Yes, certainly David is correct, to ensure you can get it when you want it.

As to the cost, these are only guesses, as we are not the retailer, I am just going on previous purchases as much as anything.

regards
Kimball
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Offline ac jacko  
#9 Posted : 17 February 2011 08:55:28(UTC)
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I am a member as I enjoy the magaiznes and articles plus first dibs at Insider models if required. Biggest down side is the communciation with germany, very slow and the magazines used to take 4 mths to get here. After Marklin bought a new carrier pigeon the last mag was only 2 months old so hopefully will upgrade to the Albatross :)

Overall I am happy but the slowness of the mag irks me still Glare

cheers Dale
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Offline H0  
#10 Posted : 17 February 2011 09:38:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Kodiak Go to Quoted Post
when do I need to sign up before to get that?

You can sign in any time. But you must sign in before March 31, 2011, to receive the orderform for Insider loco, car sets, and free Insider car.

If you sign in later, your membership year will run e. g. from July 2011 through June 2012 - so you'll get the orderform for the 2012 models (without knowing what they will be).
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Offline steventrain  
#11 Posted : 17 February 2011 10:42:28(UTC)
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Fill in online with credit card detail if you decide to join.

https://www.maerklin.de/...s/anmeldung.html?lang=en

When fill done, The process will take about two weeks.
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Offline Kodiak  
#12 Posted : 17 February 2011 11:05:41(UTC)
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thanks for all the help guys, think ill go with it. ring em up friday night. the BR50.40 is realy nice.
John and his M track, the only way to train. Now with added C track and bonus K track.
If your gona be a bear, be a grizzly!
You have the right to bear arms, the right to arm bears, what ever the hell you wanna do!
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Offline David Dewar  
#13 Posted : 17 February 2011 12:29:33(UTC)
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Best of luck. This is a poorly run club outside Germany but maybe they wil allow to join and take your cash and even send you mags etc.

Save your cash and buy something Marklin instead is my view.

dave
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline old toot  
#14 Posted : 17 February 2011 19:54:57(UTC)
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Hi Kodiak
you can join by just logging into our toottoot.co.nz website and we have
a quick access button for signing up
to me the club for 109 us gives you
12 mags a year
The annual catalogue big thick edition
2 DVD'd a year
your club car ( worth about 40.00)
the insider special offers each year and that can be two or three offers
the biggest thing is the regular flow of information direct from germany
and the reason the overseas one in smaller is that the information
dropped out is all the local german club information that is not
relevant for us , and it also keeps the weight down for international
postage.
we can have your catalogue sent to us and we just ship it on in most cases
the chaps are ordering and we include it with their orders
If you ring them, they will answer in german, just ask her can you speak in english
and she will just drop straight into English no problem
which ever way you go most here do feel it is worth it when you add up all you
get for 109 us which in your case would be about the same in aust dollars
regards
bryan old toot

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Offline Kodiak  
#15 Posted : 24 February 2011 10:37:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Hi John,

If I were yourself, I would phone Marklin one night (after 9pm your time),
0011 49 71 61608222,

regards
Kimball


this number puts me through the tech department, they gave me the same number with ending in 213, which goes gets answered by a recording in German, and then it disconnects.

whats going on?
John and his M track, the only way to train. Now with added C track and bonus K track.
If your gona be a bear, be a grizzly!
You have the right to bear arms, the right to arm bears, what ever the hell you wanna do!
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#16 Posted : 24 February 2011 11:07:25(UTC)
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Hi John,

I sent you a PM - I think that means personal message, or I might have even used the email tab.

regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline Drongo  
#17 Posted : 24 February 2011 11:09:12(UTC)
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Hi kodiak,

I've been a member of the insider club for 2 years and there have been some ups and downs. Paying for membership is the hardest part of joining the club. Once you have paid everything seems to work well. Yes, you have to wait about 6 weeks for the mag to arrive, but the reading is interesting.

If you're hell bent on buying the insider model, then I can offer you this tip. When you receive the application form to buy the model/s you want, don't send them to Nathan's train, instead join the club at Hobbyco Sydney for $22.00 per year and receive 10% discount on everything from Hobbyco including the insider models. I'm not affiliated with Hobbyco, just that this is what I do.

Regards
Greg
Take it easy . . . . or any other way you can get it !!!!
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Offline Dimi194  
#18 Posted : 25 February 2011 02:40:45(UTC)
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Hi!

I'm a member of the 1FC Club and the Marklin Magazin. I don't think its wor5th getting the insider especially at the price. And there Train Traders in Sydney along with HobbyCo and Frey Import company in VIc.
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Offline Dimi194  
#19 Posted : 25 February 2011 07:03:16(UTC)
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WEll my last post was a bit messy. What I'm trying to say is the Insider Culb isn't worth it until they clean up the whole overseas thing. Often, unless you call them, they won't answer your emails. If I were you I'd just get the Marklin Magazin separate. It's pretty good. And if you live in Melbourne why don't you buy your trains from Frey import Co. They're based in Melbourne somewhere, or in Victora any how. And Don't jugde by websites. Train Trader has a pretty poor site but the shop is great. Ring up before you make up your mind on wich dealer to choose! (There re only four in Australia anyway.)
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Offline ac jacko  
#20 Posted : 26 February 2011 01:39:41(UTC)
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Ok so with the order form for the 2011 Loco which part of the form is filled out and do i post it straight back to germany or is this done via Nathans trains/Toot Toot as I joined the US Club which in now in turn is now run by the Markin in Germany Confused
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User is suspended until 24/11/2846 07:19:16(UTC) Bigdaddynz  
#21 Posted : 26 February 2011 02:33:45(UTC)
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Dale, you send it back to your dealer, not directly to Marklin.

The form has multiple items on it - the Insider loco, wagon sets, and the Insider car (which is free). Fill out the bits you want and send it to your dealer. Keep in mind some parts of the form are for the dealer to complete. You should only need to complete the top third of the form.

If you are going to send the form to Toottoot, keep in mind that mail deliveries into Christchurch are limited at the moment, and Dion has also been busy helping out quake affected people.
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Offline ac jacko  
#22 Posted : 26 February 2011 03:51:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Dale, you send it back to your dealer, not directly to Marklin.

The form has multiple items on it - the Insider loco, wagon sets, and the Insider car (which is free). Fill out the bits you want and send it to your dealer. Keep in mind some parts of the form are for the dealer to complete. You should only need to complete the top third of the form.

If you are going to send the form to Toottoot, keep in mind that mail deliveries into Christchurch are limited at the moment, and Dion has also been busy helping out quake affected people.


Thanks BD but I have never bought from a dealer. Always Locshop or Ebay and would not know Nathans dealership number Crying
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Offline nevw  
#23 Posted : 26 February 2011 03:57:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ac jacko Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Dale, you send it back to your dealer, not directly to Marklin.

The form has multiple items on it - the Insider loco, wagon sets, and the Insider car (which is free). Fill out the bits you want and send it to your dealer. Keep in mind some parts of the form are for the dealer to complete. You should only need to complete the top third of the form.

If you are going to send the form to Toottoot, keep in mind that mail deliveries into Christchurch are limited at the moment, and Dion has also been busy helping out quake affected people.


Thanks BD but I have never bought from a dealer. Always Locshop or Ebay and would not know Nathans dealership number Crying



Dale,

Nathans Trains N Toys Web Site: www.trainsntoys.com.au

Noel is away but SHOULD be back for next week.

SHop hours Monday 12 Noon to 5PM
Closed Tuesday
WED - Friday 12 Noon to 5PM
Saturday 10am to 2 PM

Email etc:
Phone: 617 3350 4685
Fax: 617 3350 6792
Email: ntnt98 at bigpond.com



Our postal address is:
PO Box 2416,
Chermside Centre
Queensland 4032


NEV
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
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User is suspended until 24/11/2846 07:19:16(UTC) Bigdaddynz  
#24 Posted : 26 February 2011 04:04:51(UTC)
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....and would not know Nathans dealership number Crying



You don't need to know it. The dealer will fill that part in.
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Offline ac jacko  
#25 Posted : 26 February 2011 04:09:14(UTC)
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Ok thanks guys all sorted
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#26 Posted : 26 February 2011 08:34:41(UTC)
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Hi Dimi,

Welcome to the forum.Smile
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