Hemmerich wrote:I did not only say that, but also pointed out that the paint job is unchanged the same for every Ae 6/6 model since 1992; the green or red "line" on the roof is clearly visible on all of them. Every owner of a Märklin Ae 6/6 can verify and should be able to confirm this, starting right away with the "Bern" or "Geneve"; in particular for the ladder indent section and especially for those in "red" body or silver roof livery. Thus the cargo models are no different.
The Ae 6/6 design has a lip on the edge of the roof. The Maerklin model has this as part of the main locomotive shell and not part of the separate roof piece. On the green and red models, this detail was not particularly noticeable, as the shell was one colour and the roof was silver or gray. With the new Cargo livery, the main shell is painted in blue and red sections. The fact that Maerklin chose to use red as the base coat and apply the blue paint to the appropriate section has resulted in this strip of the top of the shell remaining red, and creating a nonprototypical red stripe at the lip of the roof. Yes, Lutz has a point, that it would be rather expensive to paint this whole area the same colour as the roof, which would correspond to how the actual loks are painted. For modelling purposes, the easiest solution to eliminate this visible red stripe would have been to either select blue as the base colour or to simply have painted the lip of the body shell blue adjacent to the blue section, which would have resulted in the blue meeting the gray and the red meeting the gray, which would not have been prototypical, but would have been a far sight better than the models as shown here. No matter what is said by those who feel that it must be perfect because it is Maerklin, it would still have improved the model.
Quote:BTW: Still missing the same level of complaints and correction demands for the prototypically even worse wrong vertical handrails and/or specific roof livery "mistakes" on the very same Ae 610 models from HAG by those people who feel it being inacceptable on the Märklin models.
PS: Some words about not having seen a model or "exact" picture thereof before purchase - many worldwide customers, including here, today purchase online and the rules are mostly clear and the same everywhere: If you don't like what you get/got you can always reject it (in our country it's not even required to give any reason).
I have one of the Hag Ae 6/6s. It is a green Canton lok with the chrome stripes. It is an older model from the 1990s. I have not complained about the Hag models, whether it be about the diagonal handrails that are not anchored in the footboard, the light that shines through the motor bogie opening or any of the other weak points on that model because I have not ordered any of those models.
I have mentioned on several occasions that the Roco model is equipped with the incorrect Swiss Crest for one of the second series Ae 6/6 loks. The Roco model comes with the larger chrome crest from one of the first series, the so-called Canton loks with the chrome stripes. The Roco model additionally has the main segment of the roof painted silver, which does not correspond to the loks that I have seen in prototype.
For that, and other reasons, I decided to wait for the Maerklin model, and as these were the first photos of the actual model that I had seen, I decided to report this flaw in the forum and to contact Maerklin and ask them to make the necessary corrections to the model. Whether they correct one model specifically for me or correct the entire batch before shipping is at their discretion. I have stipulated to my dealer that they should not send the model to me if the red stripe is visible. I invited them to send me photos of the lok selected for me, so that I could either approve or reject the model before it is shipped to me. I am quite aware of the German and EU laws pertaining to the right of return of purchases, but as it costs 35 Euros to get here and another $30-60 dollars if I choose to return it, I would rather have the ability to make that decision before the item is actually under way.
As far as Guus' suggestion that it can be painted. Yes, it could be done, but at the prices that they expect us to pay for these locomotives, they should be able to get it right and we shouldn't have to kitbash a new model and void the warranty just to get it correct...
...and before this topic too is locked, this argument is simply a difference of opinion between a modeller who collects and models Swiss loks and expects his loks to be as true to the prototype as possible and somebody who collects Maerklin and for whom that is more important than whether it is prototypical or not. Unfortunately, this person does not feel that I have a right to reveal such a flaw in this forum. The forum should allow for such comments/reviews/criticisms...
Regarding Lutz' response to Rajnish: Actually, the Hag lok has the blue section painted all the way to the lip of the roof, where the blue meets the gray. That is correct and prototypical for this locomotive. The lip of the roof, which is red on the Maerklin lok, is painted the same colour as the roof, as the Hag model is made of one piece and not two as is the Maerklin model.
I never said that painting the top of the main shell blue (adjacent to the blue side panels) would be absolutely prototypical, but it would certainly be better looking than the current appearance of the lok.
Regards,
Mike C