Hi Martin,

Well MS1 is not compatible with CS2, only MS2 is compatible with. Even CS1 Reloaded is not compatible with CS2.

I guess they intended to drop all MS1 and favorite people buying new ones. Another approch is that MS2 does not connect to tracks the way MS1 did. Only CS1-CS2 compatibility remains...

Emmanuel (sad with Marklin consumerism approach...)

Agree. MS1 should be compatible with cs2. No doubt. It's said in all of the documentation, as well as in the helpfile inside the cs2 itself. The question is why my ms1 would register properly?? It works excellent when connected through "the ugly box" to other layout with same locos and all.

Regards / Martin

Now that you mention this, I remember this was discussed here before.
IIRC we never found out which is the maximum MS1 version that won't work or which is the minimum MS1 version that will work with a CS2.
Which version do you have?

Should have remembered that earlier.

My CS1 is far from Stockholm ...

I got my CS2 last November. I plugged my Ms into it, and it works splendidly. I added a 60126 exte3nsion cord to make it more "mobile.

A couple of questions about this:
Have you conected the MS1 into the left or the right slot of the CS2? In my case I have realized that when I conect the MS1 into the right slot of the CS2 I have to press it very tight, If I don't do that I will get the same message of no master as you got, but when I conect the MS to the left plug of the CS2 I have no problem at all.
Don't you have any Marklin dealer near your home, he should have a CS1 in case that the problem is the upgrade.
For me it is very rare that there is no information from marklin about the upgrade of the MS1.You should send a email to de Marklin tecnical service before sending your MS1 they will answer your question quikly.
Best regards
Eduardo

Thanks!

Okey, it makes sense. I'll check with my dealer if they want to help. I'll try to brive them by buying a few s88s and k83 modules maybe.

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Martin:
of course would it be possible for you to have your MS1 updated throu a Märklin dealer close to you. You have Harambee Hobby and you have MJ-Hobbyexperten in your vicinity, and I'm sure they will be happy to help you to have them updated. They simply send them to Märklin. It will probaly cost you a couple of bucks, but do check with them. You have a third choise of dealer also: Leni's in Kimstad outside Norrkoping. They are closed for vacation until the 19/7. Her's the link to their homepage: http://www.lenislek-hobby.com/
And if it is to expensive to send them to Märklin, I know some dealer who have put the MS1 on sale, with the latest softeware version loaded.

brgds
Björn H

Can anyone here tell if it is possible to update the MS1 with an ECoS/CS1 Reloaded? SW ver. is 3.2.1.

brgd
Björn H

Tom:
I use an MS1 as an extra handcontroller and the SW version is 1.8. The problem is, I don't know if the MS1 has been updatet while on service with Märklin, or if it's been updated via my ECoS.
But, as you point out: ECoS and CS1 reloaded is exactly the same nowadays.

brgds
Björn H

I dunno what AP stands for (maybe Application). You'll find it if you flip through the INFO screens on your Mobile Station (OPTIONS => INFO).

I was at Eurowest in San Carlos today and took the opportunity to speak to Tom Catherall about this. He was't aware of this issue.

At first he told me that there has never been an update to the MS1 firmware and that even the earliest MS1s work with a CS2 without any change. I told him about this thread and that folks are saying that the CS1 does update the firmware and he doubted it since all of his MS1s work flawlessly, even his earliest ones.

Luckily I had brought both my MS1s with me (I was actually hoping someone had a CS1 I could plug them into). I've never connected my MS1s to anything besides directly to my layout or to my CS2.

Tom plugged one of my MS1s into his CS2 which was running firmware 1.3.0. and the MS1 just continually flashed, exactly like when I plug it into my CS2 at home. He at first thought that the MS1 was faulty, but I assured him that both work fine at home when they're running the track, but just not as slaves to a CS2 (he didn't have an ugly box to connect to the track so I couldn't show him that, but they do both work fine). He tried various key combinations on the MS1, resetting the CS2, different connections/ports into the CS2, all the same. Just flashing on the MS1.

He thought this was a challenge to look into, but also said that Marklin has cut all ties to ESU. He specifically asked if I'd ever connected my MS1s to a CS1 reloaded (nope) and volunteered that Marklin doesn't support a CS1 Reloaded to be connected to a CS2.

When I asked him what I should do with two non-working MS1s, he told me how good the MS2 was...

Does anyone know of a CS1 in the SF bay area I could plug my MS1s into for a quick upate...

Hi everyone!

Okey. It seems I'm at the the end of the line with my MS1s here. Can't seem to find anyone local to make this upgrade for me.

I have put the MS1 in a Jiffybag ready to send it off to YOU :) for updating.
Please send my an E-mail with your address. Return postage is in the bag too.

You have a CS1 connected to Internet and knowledge on how to make the updating.

Looking forward to hear from you.

Regards / Martin in Sweden

Hi Henk!

The two MS1s are now on their way to you. Lets hope they get there in one piece (each that is..)

What was the outcome of this thriller?

It's not fair to let 6 years plus go by without telling us "who done it".

Did the upgrade work?

Curious in Toronto - aka Baggio