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Hi guys,
I need some general information about this BR53. Also where can i get one of this locomotive.
TQ
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Depends which sub class of BR 53 you're referring to. From wiki:
DRG Class 53, a class of German freight locomotives with a 0-6-0 wheel arrangement operated by the Deutsche Reichsbahn, with the following sub-classes:
Class 53.0: Prussian G 4.2
Class 53.3: Prussian G 4.3
Class 53.6-7: Saxon V V
Class 53.8: Württemberg Fc
Class 53.10: Oldenburg G 4.2
Class 53.70-71: Prussian G 3, PKP Class Th1
Class 53.70II: BLE G 4.2
Class 53.71II: BBÖ 47, BBÖ 49, BBÖ 58, BBÖ 56, JDŽ 124
Class 53.72: BBÖ 59, PKP-Class Th24
Class 53.73: EWA IIIc
Class 53.74: ČSD Class 322.4
Class 53.75: ČSD Class 324.3
Class 53.76: Prussian G 4.1
Class 53.76II: ČSD Class 334.3
Class 53 7607II: GWR Class 2301
Class 53.77: PKP Class Th3, PKP Class Th4
Class 53.78: EWA IIb
Class 53.80-81: Bavarian C IV
Class 53.82: Saxon V
Class 53.83: Württemberg F
Class 53.85: Baden VIIa
Class 53.85: Baden VIIc |
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Eric,
Although your list is very comprehensive, Rookie may enquired about the loco that was never completed around the 2nd world war.
Märklin model e.g. 3702 etc etc.
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I really dont aspect that kind of list just for the BR53..  Actually i am referring to this model no 33021. I really like this model and planning to own one.   I notice the picture was on z scale but i am looking on HO scale.  TQ rookie |
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Marklin BR53 model record.
Cat.No Year Decoder/Motor Epoch Running number
3102 1979-1988 Relais DCM III 53 001 DRG
3302 1988 Elekt.U DCM II 53 001 DRG
3602 1989 Dig.6080 DCM II 53 001 DRG
3502 1989-1993 Elekt.U DCM II 53 001 DRG
3702 1993-1995 Dig.6090 DCM II 53 001 DRG
3301 1995-1999 Delta DCM II 53 002 DRG
3701 1995-1999 Dig.6090 DCM II 53 002 DRG
33021 1999 Delta DCM II 53 003 DRG
37021 1999 Dig.60901 DCM II 53 003 DRG
37029 1999 Dig.6090x DCM II 53 003 DRG
37022 2004 Dig.6090mfx DCM II 53 DRG
37023 2009 Dig.6090mfx DCM II 53 0005 DRG |
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Thanks steven,
Any idea where can i order/buy this beautiful loco and maybe you guys who already owned this locomotive can share the picture of it here too.
I just know a little bit only about this model due to the catalog in german. Normally this locomotive are used to pull what kind of car/wagon? |
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dr rookie wrote:Thanks steven,
Any idea where can i order/buy this beautiful loco and maybe you guys who already owned this locomotive can share the picture of it here too.
I just know a little bit only about this model due to the catalog in german. Normally this locomotive are used to pull what kind of car/wagon? Bought my 3102 off Ebay and great condiion  Photo of of members great loco's located here with photo of one https://www.marklin-user...osts&t=16317&p=5Looks like the delta version for you sir ??
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got one an early analogic in grey: powerful loc. |
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Thanks jacko..
Yes delta version will be my 1st choice.. I went to hobby-shop today and saw few grey BR53 without fan on the tender just normal coal tender and the color not so nice in grey but if i cant get the one i want so this gonna be my last choice.. |
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Hi Rookie, As you were asking for some pictures, have a look here: http://www.osterthun.com...s40-59/Baureihe~53KL.htmYou can click through to either the Deutsche Reichsbahn or Deutsche Bundesbahn models, there's a neat selection of pictures behind each of the two links. With the numbers provided by Steven, you could probably track some of the models on eBay. I am sure there are sellers who will ship worldwide and to your home. Good luck! |
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Thanks sander it really help me to understand about this model more.. But can somebody explain to me what is that big fan on the tender are for? referring to model BR53 003  |
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dr rookie wrote:But can somebody explain to me what is that big fan on the tender are for? That's a condensing tender: steam is converted to water which can then be supplied to the boiler again (and the water is already warm, so it saves coal). This is good for areas with limited water supplies and allows the loco to run longer trips without stop. The loco is less visible because it exhausts no steam - this is important during wartime. |
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From the 1980 Marklin catalog description of model 3102:
"In 1943 the German State Railways initiated the development of a superheavy freight train locomotive. Main features
specified were: a train of 1700 tons to be pulled up an 8% incline on a curve of radius 360 metres at a speed of at
least 20 km/h (12.5 mph), maximum speed of 80 km/h (50 mph) in either direction, axle load 20 tons. Many designs were
submitted. One of the most interesting was the Borsig I, which was a Mallet-type machine wtth 4 cylinders.The front
end Of the long boiler was mounted on a swivelling support on the front driving truck. The design was for a simple
yet powerful machine. As things turned out, however. this locomotive, with its double Heusinger reserving gear, was
never built. It is now brought to life in this Marklin model."
There has been some suggestions that the Br53 manufacture was commenced, but never completed, due to World War II.
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Thanks Tom and Bgdaddynz for the info and all that make me want it more to own it is a must for me now.. |
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I have the 37029 with the split so that you can see the fans spinning etc.. It is high on my list of favourite locos...  |
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Cool adrian any web or video of it that you can share here? |
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Bigdaddynz wrote:There has been some suggestions that the Br53 manufacture was commenced, but never completed, due to World War II. This error was corrected in the 150 Years Märklin book: there is no evidence that any part for this loco has ever been built. An eye whitness saw parts of a loco that were much bigger than the BR 52 he normally saw. But it seems he only saw parts of a BR 42. Please note: there were IIRC 17 proposals for the BR 53 - and they never decided on one of these designs. It is still possible that a manufacturer started to built this loco without order and on own expenses (but extremely unlikely at that stage of the war). Several models of BR 53 proposals have been built before Märklin made the 3102. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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Wow that was a good and informative fact you have there Tom thanks for sharing.
Yes steve i search on youtube and found not much video about it.. and for the link that you gave i dont have the access to enter....??
I quite dont get it here so is this BR53 ever been build and in service or it just a prototype only? Bit confuse here
Thanks guys,
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Hi, rookie,
The BR 53 in scale 1:1 existed on paper only. I believe that no part has ever been built for it. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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Here's a bit of video... Sorry, I don't know how to import video properly  Fixed that for you! /BDNZ Edited by moderator 11 July 2011 13:05:12(UTC)
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