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Offline Deborail  
#1 Posted : 16 March 2010 13:53:38(UTC)
Deborail

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Gentlemen,
I have the marvellous V300 loco and I was wondering if it would be suitable to get the following passenger cars to go with it....


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http://www.maerklin.de/p...74&picname=00774.jpg


Comments appreciated...

George

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Offline RayF  
#2 Posted : 16 March 2010 14:26:37(UTC)
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Hi George,

Those coaches are very nice, but are perhaps more appropriate for commuter or branch line trains. The V300 was mainly used on express trains, so I would recommend some suitable Era III express coaches, such as the 43910, 43920, 43930, 43940, 43941, and 43950.

http://www.maerklin.com/...etails.html?art_nr=43910
http://www.maerklin.com/...etails.html?art_nr=43920
http://www.maerklin.com/...etails.html?art_nr=43930
http://www.maerklin.com/...etails.html?art_nr=43940
http://www.maerklin.com/...etails.html?art_nr=43941
http://www.maerklin.com/...etails.html?art_nr=43950

You can also get the 43969 set, which is very nice.

http://www.maerklin.com/...ailsh0.html?art_nr=43969

If these coaches are too long for your layout you could look for the older equivalent 27cm coaches on ebay.
Ray
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Offline Deborail  
#3 Posted : 16 March 2010 14:45:12(UTC)
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Thanks for tip Ray. I managed to find three of them available by order only on lokshop...I just need to locate one more similar one....
George

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Offline RayF  
#4 Posted : 16 March 2010 15:02:16(UTC)
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Deborail wrote:
Thanks for tip Ray. I managed to find three of them available by order only on lokshop...I just need to locate one more similar one....


Don't forget to get the DC wheel sets for them, George.

If you want more coaches there are some out there on ebay.
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
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Offline Armando  
#5 Posted : 16 March 2010 16:36:50(UTC)
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The V 300 is one of the best models that has come out of the Märklin vaults lately.

I am very happy that I purchased mine.

I run it with Roco POP Wagen.
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline pa-pauls  
#6 Posted : 16 March 2010 16:51:39(UTC)
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Deborail wrote:

I have the marvellous V300 loco...

I agree 100% George, it is really a nice model.

I also agree with Ray about the passanger wagon's but why not buy the Trix version's :
Märklin 43910 = Trix 23400
Märklin 43920 = Trix 23401
Märklin 43930 = Trix 23402
Märklin 43940 = Trix 23403
Märklin 43950 = Trix 23404
Märklin 43969 = Trix 23446 Profi Club set

This way your wagon's already have the DC wheel's ThumpUp

PS ! - I can't stop loving that avatar of your's LOL LOL LOL
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Offline RayF  
#7 Posted : 16 March 2010 17:20:05(UTC)
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Good point, Pål!

I always forget about the Trix equivalents.
Ray
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Offline steventrain  
#8 Posted : 16 March 2010 18:18:59(UTC)
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The V300 goes to the 43919 five coaches set and 43928 single coach in "Pop Colors" livery.
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Offline Deborail  
#9 Posted : 17 March 2010 13:42:32(UTC)
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thanks Gents, for your suggestions...I already have 16 x DC spare wheel sets so I am interested in getting some marklin wagons....The problem is that i like to get them from lokshop and they only have a few available that they can order....
George

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Offline Piggy  
#10 Posted : 17 March 2010 16:01:07(UTC)
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You can have look at the German Ebay for "29010", there are many dealers that are selling these coaches from the start set, they will be without boxes, but you might be able to make a good deal putting in a bid. I have this set, and later added the combinen 2. class and bistro coach. And would like add the combinen 2.class coach and bagage car, if had the space for it. I pull this consist with either a BR210 or the BR01.10 from the start set.
Regards
Kenneth
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Offline Armando  
#11 Posted : 18 March 2010 16:41:16(UTC)
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I would never grow tired of praising the Märklin V 300. It is one of the best models to come out of the Märklin vaults in recent years. Therefore, the only coaches that would do full justice to such a spectacular model as this V 300 is, are the Roco POP coaches in full correct H0 scale (303mm). Anything less would be undignified for this locomotive. And please, no R1 curves!
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline RayF  
#12 Posted : 18 March 2010 17:46:14(UTC)
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Here we go again...

LOL LOL LOL
Ray
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Offline Macfire  
#13 Posted : 18 March 2010 18:14:35(UTC)
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RayPayas wrote:
Here we go again...

LOL LOL LOL


Thought it had rather quiet around here (the Curvaceous dept) Laugh
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Offline klinge-germany  
#14 Posted : 18 March 2010 19:18:06(UTC)
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in this livery(red and marked V300) the loco existed only from mid 1964 to some day in 1968 when it became the 230...so if you want to be prototypically correct, only passenger coaches of that time (the classic blue and green ones) fit to it. reading wikipedia, the loco was stationed at that time in Hamm (a little bit east of the 'ruhrgebiet') and pulled fast trains and freight trains, too. prior to mid 1964 the loco had another livery and not the classic 'V200'-look.
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Offline Armando  
#15 Posted : 18 March 2010 20:48:31(UTC)
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klinge-germany wrote:
in this livery(red and marked V300) the loco existed only from mid 1964 to some day in 1968 when it became the 230...so if you want to be prototypically correct, only passenger coaches of that time (the classic blue and green ones) fit to it. reading wikipedia, the loco was stationed at that time in Hamm (a little bit east of the 'ruhrgebiet') and pulled fast trains and freight trains, too. prior to mid 1964 the loco had another livery and not the classic 'V200'-look.



You're right. I was in fact referring to the Era IV model of the BR 230. In fact, it is one and same locomotive, as there only was one built.
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline Armando  
#16 Posted : 18 March 2010 20:50:03(UTC)
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Macfire wrote:
RayPayas wrote:
Here we go again...

LOL LOL LOL


Thought it had rather quiet around here (the Curvaceous dept) Laugh


Yeah, just fancy that, this locomotive snaking along a series of S-shaped R1 curves! What a sight for sore eyes!
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline john black  
#17 Posted : 19 March 2010 00:30:40(UTC)
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Not half. Ya missed out them 60cm tinplate coaches ... LOL
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Offline Macfire  
#18 Posted : 19 March 2010 11:01:53(UTC)
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Armando
Yeah, just fancy that, this locomotive snaking along a series of S-shaped R1 curves! What a sight for sore eyes![/quote wrote:


Brings back memories of my childhood layout where my trains, including a 3021, would swing violently through a series of 51** series manual turnouts to change tracks.
Great fun for a kid BigGrin
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Offline RayF  
#19 Posted : 19 March 2010 12:39:12(UTC)
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Macfire wrote:
Armando
Yeah, just fancy that, this locomotive snaking along a series of S-shaped R1 curves! What a sight for sore eyes![/quote wrote:


Brings back memories of my childhood layout where my trains, including a 3021, would swing violently through a series of 51** series manual turnouts to change tracks.
Great fun for a kid BigGrin



...for kids of all ages...BigGrin

Sometimes I wonder if today's obsession with accuracy makes it more fun or less. I loved all the trains Marklin made in the seventies, whereas todays clinically correct models sometimes leave me unmoved...

Same goes for all the hype surrounding digital functions, sound etc. Do they really enhance the model train experience, or just add novelty value which wears off after a week or so? (while adding considerably to the price!)
Ray
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Offline Armando  
#20 Posted : 20 March 2010 16:38:33(UTC)
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RayPayas wrote:
Macfire wrote:
Armando
Yeah, just fancy that, this locomotive snaking along a series of S-shaped R1 curves! What a sight for sore eyes![/quote wrote:


Brings back memories of my childhood layout where my trains, including a 3021, would swing violently through a series of 51** series manual turnouts to change tracks.
Great fun for a kid BigGrin



...for kids of all ages...BigGrin

Sometimes I wonder if today's obsession with accuracy makes it more fun or less. I loved all the trains Marklin made in the seventies, whereas todays clinically correct models sometimes leave me unmoved...

Same goes for all the hype surrounding digital functions, sound etc. Do they really enhance the model train experience, or just add novelty value which wears off after a week or so? (while adding considerably to the price!)


I guess that in those nostagia days of the 60's and 70's, and in our child's eyes, there was nothing better than Märklin; moreover, maybe it was even the only model train manufacturer known to us. I only recall Fleischmann, but in those years, their quality could not compare to Märklin. Nowadays, things have changed, at least for me. Even though I still cherish those models from that time, I have grown to be more of a modeler than a "collector", so I pick and select from different manufactures, mainly Brawa, Fleischmann and Roco, to recreate more prototypical consists than what I otherwise could do if I just stuck to the Märklin assortment.
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline Loadmaster  
#21 Posted : 20 March 2010 17:53:36(UTC)
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Please let me chime in here. I remember the M* also offered this model in blue within the past few years. I don't ever remember seeing a blue V300 while I was stationed in Germany. Now I was a flier so I didn't spend that much time on the ground watching trains, but I did have my opportunities.

Robert
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Offline H0  
#22 Posted : 20 March 2010 18:24:15(UTC)
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Hi, Robert!
Loadmaster wrote:
I don't ever remember seeing a blue V300 while I was stationed in Germany.

Since there was only a single V 300 the chances to see it were very small.

The blue one was a previous state in the original livery of the manufacturer (1957) - actually a 6-axle V 220 (2200 HP).
In 1958 it received stronger engines for 3000 HP.
Regards
Tom
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Offline spitzenklasse  
#23 Posted : 20 March 2010 19:55:08(UTC)
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had they ever pulled the 60's version Rheingold? What about the Lorelei train? The Riviera Express?
Offline jeehring  
#24 Posted : 22 March 2010 17:46:33(UTC)
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RayPayas wrote:
Macfire wrote:
Armando
Yeah, just fancy that, this locomotive snaking along a series of S-shaped R1 curves! What a sight for sore eyes![/quote wrote:








Sometimes I wonder if today's obsession with accuracy makes it more fun or less. I loved all the trains Marklin made in the seventies, whereas todays clinically correct models sometimes leave me unmoved...

(while adding considerably to the price!)



Bingo Ray
+ 1 !!!

You have perfectly said : OB-SES-SION !
I'm going farer than you did : did some people realize that too much added details (instead of moulded)....are not "realistic" at all and don't give you the sensation you get with older models...It is like the machine is hidden by details...While in real life we perceive the machine much before the details immediately giving the style and impression of power sometimes perfectly reproduced/restored by older models...
Offline jeehring  
#25 Posted : 22 March 2010 17:50:14(UTC)
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RayPayas wrote:
Macfire wrote:
Armando
Yeah, just fancy that, this locomotive snaking along a series of S-shaped R1 curves! What a sight for sore eyes![/quote wrote:


Brings back memories of my childhood layout where my trains, including a 3021, would swing violently through a series of 51** series manual turnouts to change tracks.
Great fun for a kid BigGrin



...for kids of all ages...BigGrin

Sometimes I wonder if today's obsession with accuracy makes it more fun or less. I loved all the trains Marklin made in the seventies, whereas todays clinically correct models sometimes leave me unmoved...




+ 1 !!!

Perfectly said : OB-SES-SION !
I could go farer : did some people realize that too much added details (instead of moulded)....are not "realistic" at all and don't give you the sensation you get with older models.
It is like if the machine is hidden by details...While in real life we perceive the machine much before the details, immediately giving the general design and true style with impression of power sometimes perfectly reproduced/restored by older models...
In spite of 1 or 2 centimeters over or missing... many of older models are more balanced (well balanced)...
Offline RayF  
#26 Posted : 22 March 2010 17:55:35(UTC)
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jeehring wrote:
RayPayas wrote:
Macfire wrote:
Armando
Yeah, just fancy that, this locomotive snaking along a series of S-shaped R1 curves! What a sight for sore eyes![/quote wrote:








Sometimes I wonder if today's obsession with accuracy makes it more fun or less. I loved all the trains Marklin made in the seventies, whereas todays clinically correct models sometimes leave me unmoved...

(while adding considerably to the price!)



Bingo Ray
+ 1 !!!

You have perfectly said : OB-SES-SION !
I'm going farer than you did : did some people realize that too much added details (instead of moulded)....are not "realistic" at all and don't give you the sensation you get with older models...It is like the machine is hidden by details...While in real life we perceive the machine much before the details immediately giving the style and impression of power sometimes perfectly reproduced/restored by older models...


end quote/

I know what you mean, Roland. Sometimes the details are too obvious, making the model more of a caricature than an accurate representation.

One that I have quoted before is the bright red pantographs on electric locos. Yes, the real ones are painted red, but it is very dificult to see the red in normal operation. Even when clean, the pantographs are quite thin, making it hard to see the colour. On models, making them bright red only serves to emphasize that the pantographs are too thick.

Other fine details like wipers, handrails, mirrors, etc, also look too obvious on models compared to the full size originals.
Ray
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Offline Armando  
#27 Posted : 22 March 2010 19:26:50(UTC)
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jeehring wrote:
RayPayas wrote:
Macfire wrote:
Armando
Yeah, just fancy that, this locomotive snaking along a series of S-shaped R1 curves! What a sight for sore eyes![/quote wrote:








Sometimes I wonder if today's obsession with accuracy makes it more fun or less. I loved all the trains Marklin made in the seventies, whereas todays clinically correct models sometimes leave me unmoved...

(while adding considerably to the price!)



Bingo Ray
+ 1 !!!

You have perfectly said : OB-SES-SION !
I'm going farer than you did : did some people realize that too much added details (instead of moulded)....are not "realistic" at all and don't give you the sensation you get with older models...It is like the machine is hidden by details...While in real life we perceive the machine much before the details immediately giving the style and impression of power sometimes perfectly reproduced/restored by older models...



Allow me please to paraphrase the great Orwell here: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more detailed than others".
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline mike c  
#28 Posted : 22 March 2010 20:50:45(UTC)
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Quote:
Sometimes the details are too obvious, making the model more of a caricature than an accurate representation.

One that I have quoted before is the bright red pantographs on electric locos. Yes, the real ones are painted red, but it is very dificult to see the red in normal operation. Even when clean, the pantographs are quite thin, making it hard to see the colour. On models, making them bright red only serves to emphasize that the pantographs are too thick.

Other fine details like wipers, handrails, mirrors, etc, also look too obvious on models compared to the full size originals.


"It may be hard to see the red in normal operation." That is likely because the pantographs get dirty, mostly coated with carbon dust from the wiper blades. On models, this detail can be reproduced by weathering the pantograph arms. The relative increase in thickness normally featured on HO Scale pantographs is a necessity in order to avoid heating of the pantograph elements during use, especially with AC voltage. This, in part, explains why Roco has been able to offer finer detailed pantographs for it's DC models, some of which I would not recommend for AC use, even with the wider blades for AC that come with most AC models.

Other details like wipers, handrails, etc are very nicely reproduced on some models, but can appear slightly overscale on other models. I prefer separately applied railings to ones that are molded into the model.
For me, what is more important is technical details like milled lenses for light channels, so that the lights, whether LED or bulb, produce a realistic beam and not just a diffuse glow as has been the case on many recent models.

As far as 24cm vs 26.4 vs 27cm vs 28.2cm vs 30.3cm coaches, it is a personal preference. I feel that the scale length coaches look the best (if you have the space). The shorter coaches may be necessary due to space or curve limitations and look better on those layouts for that reason. The shortest coaches (24cm) made of metal allow for the most trailing coaches and have that Maerklin sound that many of us associate with our childhood.

There is room for all of us in this hobby and I fail to see why we should jump all over each other every time full scale vs reduced length is mentioned.

I have many exact scale coaches that look great when running on my floor layout. Those coaches can not be used on my test oval/start set layout, where the 27cm and 28.2cm coaches look much better. If I had the space, I would probably go with the full scale models all the way, but I don't have a permanent large radii setup and use the reduced length models for the occasional lap around my test oval. My plan is to use the reduced scale coaches for night operation (lighted) and use the exact scale material during daytime use.

As they say, I guess I have got the best of both worlds.

Back to the V300. I would consider getting a few of the LSM Aum202/Bum232 coaches (1/87). In terms of detail, they would look amazing behind the lok. For the layout, you may prefer to go with the newer 28cm Maerklin UIC coaches.

Regards

Mike C
Offline TimR  
#29 Posted : 23 March 2010 00:31:02(UTC)
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RayPayas wrote:


I know what you mean, Roland. Sometimes the details are too obvious, making the model more of a caricature than an accurate representation.

One that I have quoted before is the bright red pantographs on electric locos. Yes, the real ones are painted red, but it is very dificult to see the red in normal operation. Even when clean, the pantographs are quite thin, making it hard to see the colour. On models, making them bright red only serves to emphasize that the pantographs are too thick.

Other fine details like wipers, handrails, mirrors, etc, also look too obvious on models compared to the full size originals.


Ah! Beauty is such a relative term.
Those are some features of HO-scale models that in my opinion actually enhances the model, rather than being a disadvantage..

All handrails on every H0 models made by every manufacturers are overscale compared the real ones. But to me the handrails on the real one are actually the ones that look too thin..BigGrin
They would look like messy wires if they were true-to-scale on H0 models.

Same like those thick, prominent, albeit overscale windscreen wipers on Re4/4 II or BR103s... they really add to the character of the model, and proofs that Marklin make the effort to cast very fine details that you can still see.

... in contrast, I can't make out whether those windscreen wipers exist or not in some of the more correct-to-scale models.

I like a clean look on my model.. so brightly colored red pantos looks great. When those thick pantos got caught on something, the model would roll over, but no damage.. bravo the thick pantos..

There are details to be admired in all models from all the different vintage... old and new..

Smile Smile




Now collecting C-Sine models.
Offline applor  
#30 Posted : 23 March 2010 06:55:29(UTC)
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Back to the V300. I would consider getting a few of the LSM Aum202/Bum232 coaches (1/87). In terms of detail, they would look amazing behind the lok.


Would you mind providing manufacturer and catalog number for these?

Thanks
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Offline mike c  
#31 Posted : 23 March 2010 21:20:30(UTC)
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LS Models 461115/46131/46132

See: http://www.reisezugwagen.eu/?cat=33

Regards

Mike C
Offline Armando  
#32 Posted : 23 March 2010 22:23:12(UTC)
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mike c wrote:
LS Models 461115/46131/46132

See: http://www.reisezugwagen.eu/?cat=33

Regards

Mike C


Mike, how would you rate the coaches made by LS Models compared to the Roco ones? Are they also correct at 1:87?
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline mike c  
#33 Posted : 24 March 2010 04:13:43(UTC)
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Armando wrote:
mike c wrote:
LS Models 461115/46131/46132

See: http://www.reisezugwagen.eu/?cat=33

Regards

Mike C


Mike, how would you rate the coaches made by LS Models compared to the Roco ones? Are they also correct at 1:87?


LSM's UIC coaches are 1/87 exact scale (303mm). They can be used alongside Roco, Acme, RailTop, Heris, Rivarossi and other scale length models.

In some aspects, it may appear that the LSM coaches were reverse engineered from the Roco models. The Roco models, starting with 44746 first appeared in 1985. The LS Models are at least 20 years more modern in design technology. Roco has upgraded it's coaches by offering models with digitally operated doors, but the overall coach is still made using the original molds.

LS Models has produced models that are as close to or surpasses in quality to the classic ADE coaches of the 1980s. The level of detail is incredible. The UIC-X coaches are no doubt the best on the market today.

I have not installed any lighting in any of my LSM coaches, so I cannot report on that aspect of the models. I did find the Roco coaches relatively easy to illuminate in either AC or DC.

I am looking forward to the SBB UIC coaches due from LSM in the coming months. I will use them alongside my LSM DB coaches to complete my consist for a 1980s Schnellzug between Zuerich and Stuttgart.

The photos of the models as featured on the reisezugwagen.eu site show many of the fine details of the LSM and ACME models.

I have noticed that some LSM and ACME models have NEM shafts that may be up to a mm shorter than they should be. This can make coupling coaches a little complicated. I have found that the Roco Universal Close Coupler, which is a little longer than the Maerklin 7203 seems to remedy that problem.

My CNL (LSM), EN (ACME) and Cisalpino Trains look amazing on my R3 and R4 tracks. If you have the larger radii, you should check these models out.

Regards

Mike C
Offline Deborail  
#34 Posted : 24 March 2010 07:41:31(UTC)
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Finally I managed to order the following era III DB coaches, as per Ray's and Pål's suggestions,

M43910, and T23402, T23403 and T23404. I have 16 DC wheel-sets, so I shall use 4 of them on the marklin wagon... I also ordered a BR 96. I will use it to pull freight wagons....Originally, I wanted to get the BR 23 with sound but I couldn't locate the 22230, I think it is not yet available.

Due to this, I am getting ready to order six more era III marklin 2-axle refrigerator beer wagons....I still have 12 DC-wheel-sets left over and I plan to have the 2-axle refrigerator beer wagons hauled by the BR 96... I have only two beer wagons and I want to get some more. I like to have an H0 - beer train. Besides, the refrigerator in the kitchen has never got enough space...LOL

This is the fun of MRR...Perpetually, planning and collecting....Laugh
George

Given enough time, tasks manage themselves.
Offline Deborail  
#35 Posted : 30 March 2010 15:44:05(UTC)
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Here they are being pulled by the V300BigGrin

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George

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Offline pa-pauls  
#36 Posted : 30 March 2010 18:34:50(UTC)
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Looks very good George BigGrin

You also ordered a Br. 96 I see, that's a really nice loco ThumpUp

And beer wagon's ? Don't drink and drive LOL Cheeeers Razz
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