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Offline mike c  
#1 Posted : 04 February 2010 20:57:49(UTC)
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Here is a pretty comprehensive list of new items for 2010
http://www.eyro.ch/neuheiten

Specifically, the models from ACME:
http://www.eyro.ch/downloads/news10/acme_2010_liste.pdf

For those who like 1:87 models, ACME this year is offering a lot of interesting new items:

DB Avmz/Bpmz in 1:87
DB/PKP Berlin-Warsaw Express
FS Bcm and WLAB in XMPR/Treno Notte colors
SBB (Am, Bcm) OBB and other Eurofima coaches
TRAXX 484 Veolia
TRAXX 186 Crossrail/Serfer
TRAXX 486 BLS-Nordcargo
CD EC Set "Vindobona" Vienna-Prag-Berlin
JZ EC Set "Mimara"

The CD and JZ Sets were originally advertised as planned new items from RailTop in 2007. There may be some legal contention if Modern Gala/ACME used elements of the planned RT production in the manufacturing of these models.

The Berlin-Warsaw Express is sure to be a big seller.

I had reported that there would be models of the ETR 610 Cisalpino and SBB Versions. I am now informed that these models will be in "N" Scale and not "HO".

The highlight for any FS fans will have to be the already in 2009 announced model of the "Settebello"

Regards

Mike C
Offline Rinus  
#2 Posted : 10 February 2010 20:52:36(UTC)
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They are listing quite a number of ÖBB items for 2010!

A 52601 Carrozza OBB serie Bmz, porte Schlieren, livrea di origine 03-2010
A 52602 Carrozza OBB serie Bmz, porte Schlieren, livrea di origine, altra numeraz. 03-2010
A 52623 Carrozza OBB di prima classe tipo Z nuova livrea 2010
A 52630 Carrozza Tipo Z Eurofima di seconda classe OBB 06-2010
A 52634 Carrozza OBB di seconda classe tipo Z con porte modificate 2010
A 52635 Carrozza OBB di seconda classe tipo Z con bordi finestrini grigi 2010
A 52641 Carrozza lettiOBB WLABmz 33a 2010
A 52643 Carrozza letti OBB WLABMz 32s in livrea speciale 2010
A 52649 Carrozza OBB del tipo Bbvmz 2010
A 52650 Carrozza mista bagagliaio di prima classe delle OBB 2010
A 55040 Set "Austria Express" con carrozze Bomz, Amoz e bagagliaio in livrea C1 06-2010

Very interesting. Especially since LS Models and Roco also offer quite a number of 1:87 coaches this year. This seems to become a fine year for those who appreciate fine details and exact scale.
Offline mike c  
#3 Posted : 11 February 2010 02:15:55(UTC)
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Eyro now has the complete ACME 2010 New Items Brochure online (PDF)

www.eyro.ch/neuheiten

Regards

Mike C
Offline Rinus  
#4 Posted : 11 February 2010 21:41:12(UTC)
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Thanks Mike!

These ACME trains sure look good. If only they were in made AC too.
Offline mike c  
#5 Posted : 11 February 2010 22:14:10(UTC)
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Evil R wrote:
Thanks Mike!

These ACME trains sure look good. If only they were in made AC too.


There was an addendum to the 2010 Brochure with some AC models. That list is posted at www.eyro.ch/neuheiten as well

Regards

Mike C
Offline Rinus  
#6 Posted : 11 February 2010 22:41:21(UTC)
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Wow a super detailed E646 and E645!! Woot Woot

I've got to have one of these! This is really great news!

I'm curious if Al Pignolo has spotted these wonderfull models.
Offline Rinus  
#7 Posted : 13 February 2010 13:21:52(UTC)
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Mike, do you know if there is a pricelist somewhere? I'm curious to knwo the prices for the AC E646 and 645's.
Offline mike c  
#8 Posted : 13 February 2010 20:16:36(UTC)
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Evil,

Memoba.at has some prices listed under "Messeinfo". I think that they have the prices for the DC models. I would assume that the AC versions will be about 100EUR higher. In your area, check with your local LSM dealer or contact Huenerbein in Aachen (DE).

Regards

Mike C
Offline steventrain  
#9 Posted : 14 February 2010 10:56:08(UTC)
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Thanks for the list.
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Offline mike c  
#10 Posted : 14 February 2010 13:26:57(UTC)
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I saw a photo of the ACME Avmz/Bpmz models, but I don't remember which one of the reports it was. From what I could see, those models are sure to give Roco a run for their money.
The finish and windows looked just like the real thing. Ade started the multicolored interior in the 1980s. Roco took it mainstream in the late 1980s. LSM/ACME have taken it to a new level recently.
All I can say is wow.

Regards

Mike C
Offline Rinus  
#11 Posted : 14 February 2010 22:28:47(UTC)
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Their attention to detail is incredible. Even more remarkable when considfering their prices.

On the larger MMR forums in The Netherlands brands like LS Models, Artitec and ACME are very popular.

I hope ACME will get the earnings they deserve, they are really doing a nice job.

My eyes are on the E645/E646 and the Austria Express coachset

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Offline al_pignolo  
#12 Posted : 14 February 2010 22:31:41(UTC)
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Thank you Evil! I've been away from the forum for a little time, and I find such a good new! ACME E645/6 are great models of a great loco! Love
I will ask some shops in Italy to find out their price. If they know it, I'll tell you!
Regards

Pietro
Offline Rinus  
#13 Posted : 15 February 2010 12:43:31(UTC)
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al_pignolo wrote:
Thank you Evil! I've been away from the forum for a little time, and I find such a good new! ACME E645/6 are great models of a great loco! Love
I will ask some shops in Italy to find out their price. If they know it, I'll tell you!
Regards

Pietro


That would be great! My local ACME dealer doesn't show the prices yet.

The E645 will make a superb addition to my Brennerbahn lay-out I'm planning to start building soon.
Offline al_pignolo  
#14 Posted : 15 February 2010 15:32:00(UTC)
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It seems they are also planning an AC version of class 685 steam loco:

http://www.acmetreni.it/...es/primopiano/bomb17.jpg
Offline Rinus  
#15 Posted : 15 February 2010 23:55:31(UTC)
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al_pignolo wrote:
It seems they are also planning an AC version of class 685 steam loco:

http://www.acmetreni.it/...es/primopiano/bomb17.jpg


I noticed it on their site

This was also there:
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Offline al_pignolo  
#16 Posted : 07 April 2010 23:34:56(UTC)
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well... I'm sorry but, it's more than 40 days I wrote to ACME about their AC program, but I didn't have any answer.
Many years ago they announced FS D461 in AC version, and I ordered it, but it was never produced.
So I don't have much confidence on this company, and... I bought an E645 by Roco RollEyes

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Pietro
Offline steventrain  
#17 Posted : 08 April 2010 00:57:43(UTC)
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Very nice, Pietro.Smile
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Offline Weltenbummler  
#18 Posted : 08 April 2010 02:19:57(UTC)
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I've seen a brochure wizh pics for the DB/ PKP Berlin-Warszawa-Express in a small MRR Shop here in Warsaw. They look nice and much more better than the ones I've got from Marklin and Piko. The planned loco type 186 from Angel Trains which is pulling the train on route Berlin-Rzepin-Berlin will be obsolete as of December 2010. This is due to the fact that the train will be pulled by PKP Taurus all the way Berlin-Warsaw-Berlin from december onwards.. The brochure from ACME only showed a pic of an original 186 leaving Berlin. Prices were not mentioned so far.
By the way, I'm so enthusiastic about this train, because I'm travelling on it every weekend on friday to Berlin and sunday back to Warsaw.

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Offline mike c  
#19 Posted : 08 April 2010 02:32:21(UTC)
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I just ordered the 55033 Trenitalia XMPR Treno Notte Set composed of two couchette coaches and one sleeper in the latest FS livery. I will combine these coaches with my Roco SNCF couchette coaches to recreate the Paris-Vallorbe-Brig-Milano Night Train around 2004. I may also combine these coaches with my Roco, Rivarossi and Heris SBB Sleepers to recreate the Gotthard Autozug from Zuerich Alstatten to Italy. I would still need to car carrier to go with that consist.

ACME has been pretty timely with coaches and cars. Locomotives have taken a little longer in production. So far, they seem to run pretty well. I would definitely be patient and give them a chance.

Regards

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Offline Rinus  
#20 Posted : 20 July 2010 13:13:08(UTC)
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I wondering if anyone has heard anything about the announced E645 and E646 in AC version??

There where leaflets announcing them. Unfortunately my local dealer (MTE in Holland) can't tell anything about these trains in AC version nor is he willing to do some investigation.Cursing Confused

I decided to contact ACME about a month or two ago, and asked them by e-mail if these items are to arrive somewhere in the near future. Unfortunately they haven't sent a reply. Nor can the items be seen on their site.

This brings us to the rather strange situation, that there is a potential customer (myself) who is willing to spent his money on these particular products and that there is a shopkeeper and a company who arn't coöperatingConfused ThumbDown Mad

Does anyone know a bit more? My patience is running out with ACME on this one, and I might just buy the Roco version.

Rinus

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Offline mike c  
#21 Posted : 20 July 2010 21:11:42(UTC)
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The Italian market is primarily a DC market. Most manufacturers of FS (Trenitalia) loks, cars and coaches make models for 2 rail DC. AC models are usually manufactured for the Export market in small quantities.
After four years of occasionally contacting ACME regarding models, I finally did receive an English answer to an English language question submitted via their website. Prior to that, the only response had been to an enquiry translated using Babelfish (Yahoo) and submitted via Mr Buono's email address that had been listed on previous publications.

As far as Rinus' question, he can contact LS Models (www.lsmodels.com) as they are the titular distributor for ACME in the Netherlands. He can also try contacting either Jocadis in Belgium or Huenerbein in Aachen, who are large dealers for LSM and ACME in their markets.

Here is a link for the ACME Flyer for the German market: http://www.eyro.ch/downl.../news10/acme_2010_de.pdf
Eyro or other Swiss dealer may also be able to obtain information for you through KML, the Swiss distributor.

Regards

Mike C
Offline Armando  
#22 Posted : 20 July 2010 22:36:13(UTC)
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Mike,

How do the ACME models compare with LSM and Roco?
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline Rinus  
#23 Posted : 20 July 2010 22:38:15(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

I know the Italian Market is primarily DC one. Thats what my local dealer is telling me too. Personally I think it will remain a DC market if they even aren't trying to sell AC models. Thats why I was pleasently supprised when ACME nounced the AC versions of the E 645/6 (no. 65120, 65130 and 65135).

However, regarding my initial problem:

What I forgot to tell in my last post, is that I contacted Heunerbein by e-mail last week. Haven't got a reply yet, but it might be coming. I just e-mailed LS Modells, with a CC to ACME. I'll let the forum know when I get a reply.

Good tip to contact Eyro too. Will do that. It might work, and if it doesn't we've done our best and the order will go to Roco.

Thanks for your help,

Rinus
Offline Rinus  
#24 Posted : 20 July 2010 22:44:35(UTC)
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Armando wrote:
Mike,

How do the ACME models compare with LSM and Roco?


I'm not Mike, but I do have some experience with their coaches (there is a tread somewhere about nighttrain coaches). I own several of them now and am vey pleased with them. In fact, for coaches they are my first choise.

I'd rate ACME coaches even highter that Roco. Their atention to detail is amazing and their prices slightly better. To give you an idea of their level of perfection: even the bedsheets in my 1:87 sleeper coaches have a different color than the matrasses.

With their AC loco's I've got no eperience. I'm beginning to think they dont even exist outside their catalogue...

Regards,

Rinus
Offline mike c  
#25 Posted : 21 July 2010 00:46:39(UTC)
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Armando wrote:
Mike,

How do the ACME models compare with LSM and Roco?


Each year's new ACME models have shown improvements over the previous year's offerings. The first year or two, the models were manufactured and designed using technology that could best be compared with Sachsenmodelle/Tillig, with one piece interior fittings and exterior details comparable to 1970s Liliput. This was the result of the cooperative work with German manufacturer Heris, using the same production plant in China (Modern Gala) that had made items for Sachsenmodelle/Tillig. Sachsenmodelle had benefitted from technical improvements acquired during their period of cooperation
with Roco and those improvements could also be seen in the initial ACME and Heris models.
Following the breakup of the Heris cooperative venture (Heris, LS Models, ACME and RailTop, etc), LSM, RailTop and ACME decided to continue working together. LS Models decided to take the design of their models to the next level (including fine detail like multicoloured interiors, decals, underbody details, etc) and LS Models and RailTop followed suit. Within two years, the relationship between LS Models and RailTop deteriorated and RailTop ceased cooperation with that company. The relationship between RailTop and ACME was also affected by that situation.
ACME decided to continue cooperative work with LS Models. LS Models distributes ACME in France and the Benelux countries and ACME distributes LSM in Italy. ACME manufactures models of the Bombardier Traxx locomotives that are marketed by LS Models as well as the recent WLAB MU sleepers.
The level of quality has, as I stated, improved each year. The earlier models had some issues with the length of the coupling shaft, which I resolved by using Roco's Universal Close Coupler heads, which provide an extra mm in length versus the Maerklin, Fleischmann and Roco Close Couplers. The earlier models also had some issues with the shell interfering with the rotation of the bogies on tighter radii. This issue I resolved by inserting a small spacer.
My latest ACME acquisition was the 55033 Set containing two couchette coaches and one Treno Notte WLAB MU. Compared to the earlier productions, these models are as nice as they can get, and definitely are more detailed that even Roco's sleepers and couchette coaches.
If you are running R3 or larger, you should have no problem with operating these wonderful exact scale coaches.
They look wonderful among my collection and these models have enabled me to complete a few consists that I had been hoping to model for many years.
ACME added some international models for 2010. Plans include models of DB TEE/IC coaches, the DB/PKP Berlin-Warsaw Express, , Czech EC coaches, SBB and OBB Eurofima coaches and a Romanian subsidiary called AMINTIRI to make models for that market. I would suggest that ACME has realized that eastern Europe is an untapped market and has decided to concentrate on that market.
At the same time, LS Models has also added some additional German models to their catalog, leaving open the possibility that the ACME-LSM Cooperation might sometime come to heads over whose models of German models get priority in that country (and internationally). We will have to stay tuned to see, but in the meantime, enjoy these wonderful models.

Note: For Eurofima coaches (ie Avmz207, SBB Bcm, etc) make sure that the models that you are getting have the correct shape of the side moulding between the doors and the bogie. There have been a few productions where this feature was incorrectly rendered. The ACME catalog shows this flaw as being corrected on some of the models.

Regards

Mike C
Offline mike c  
#26 Posted : 21 July 2010 00:51:10(UTC)
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Thomas Duengefeld wrote:
I've seen a brochure wizh pics for the DB/ PKP Berlin-Warszawa-Express in a small MRR Shop here in Warsaw. They look nice and much more better than the ones I've got from Marklin and Piko. The planned loco type 186 from Angel Trains which is pulling the train on route Berlin-Rzepin-Berlin will be obsolete as of December 2010. This is due to the fact that the train will be pulled by PKP Taurus all the way Berlin-Warsaw-Berlin from december onwards.. The brochure from ACME only showed a pic of an original 186 leaving Berlin. Prices were not mentioned so far.
By the way, I'm so enthusiastic about this train, because I'm travelling on it every weekend on friday to Berlin and sunday back to Warsaw.

Regards,
Thomas
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Thomas,

I seem to remember seeing an announcement that the PKP Taurus would be released by Roco and perhaps also by Piko. I am sure that it will look good with the ACME coaches. I saw in the ACME German Flyer that there are also additional PKP models for the EN Jan Kiepura.

Regards

Mike C
Offline Rinus  
#27 Posted : 21 July 2010 08:59:19(UTC)
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Good news!

Got a reply from ACME of the e-mail I send last evening:

Dear Mr. Rinus,

am sorry you get trouble to contact ACME and for future please use my
direct address as follow:

XXXXXX

About the production of AC version of all Italian articulated locomotives
they are now under test and we need now another month before start
production; basically all AC models will of E646 and E 645 will be ready for
Novegro which happen in end of September.

In any case you'll be informed directly by me when these models will be
ready to sell.

Thanks for your interest about ACME and let me send


That is good news and a very nice reaction!

Offline xxup  
#28 Posted : 21 July 2010 09:43:10(UTC)
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Thanks Mike.. I have just ordered one of the CIWL coaches to be pulled by the blue S3/6.. No doubt I will have to change the wheels to AC so that the wagon does not crash through the bump stop.. RollEyes
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Offline xxup  
#29 Posted : 08 August 2010 10:42:23(UTC)
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The Orient Express CIWL Sleeping Car ACME 50591 arrived earlier this week from Italy..

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It is a good quality plastic coach that is made in China.. It is also, I believe, full scale length at ~30.5cm, and there is a note in the packaging to state that it should not be used on less than 420mm track radius... So while it goes perfectly with my Brawa Orient Express Electric loco, I think that it will have to stay on a siding in a special diorama setting..

Are there any thoughts in AC wheels for these wagons?

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