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RMW		#51 Posted : 12 January 2010 20:34:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 575 Location: The Netherlands		Goofy wrote: Me don´t like Marklin´s MS2 anymore time...!!! After i did read about MS2,i did found out that you can upgrade MS2 but you must have CS2 by doing this!!! Sayanora!!! Hi Goofy, Time to buy a CS II RMW
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Goofy		#52 Posted : 12 January 2010 20:38:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		RMW wrote: Goofy wrote: Me don´t like Marklin´s MS2 anymore time...!!! After i did read about MS2,i did found out that you can upgrade MS2 but you must have CS2 by doing this!!! Sayanora!!! Hi Goofy, Time to buy a CS II RMW Then in case...i don´t need MS2 after all!!! Forget about MS2!!!
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RMW		#53 Posted : 12 January 2010 20:41:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 575 Location: The Netherlands		Goofy wrote: RMW wrote: Goofy wrote: Me don´t like Marklin´s MS2 anymore time...!!! After i did read about MS2,i did found out that you can upgrade MS2 but you must have CS2 by doing this!!! Sayanora!!! Hi Goofy, Time to buy a CS II RMW Then in case...i don´t need MS2 after all!!! Forget about MS2!!! Yes, but this is a "MS II-Topic". You should buy a CS II and a MS II now . RMW
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Goofy		#54 Posted : 12 January 2010 20:47:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		Yes...this is an MS2 topic side! But to buy an CS2...??? I don´t think so...
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RayF		#55 Posted : 12 January 2010 21:05:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		The MS2 is the only controller I'm considering at the moment to replace my trusty 6021. I'm going to wait and see what reactions there are when members start using it. In terms of facilities it offers more than I need, and definitely more in proportion to the size of my layout than a CS2.
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LionelMPC		#56 Posted : 12 January 2010 22:19:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 213 Location: Washington state, USA		RayPayas wrote: The MS2 is the only controller I'm considering at the moment to replace my trusty 6021. I'm going to wait and see what reactions there are when members start using it. In terms of facilities it offers more than I need, and definitely more in proportion to the size of my layout than a CS2. I'm thinking the same thing you are Ray. I want to see what people think of it before I decide to replace my 6021 as well. It sounds like an MS2 would more than take care of my layout. -James
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NewComix		#57 Posted : 12 January 2010 23:04:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 93 Location: Harsefeld, Niedersachsen		Hi Ray, RayPayas wrote: The MS2 is the only controller I'm considering at the moment to replace my trusty 6021. I'm going to wait and see what reactions there are when members start using it. In terms of facilities it offers more than I need, and definitely more in proportion to the size of my layout than a CS2. the only thing to consider ist that MS2 only shows two accessories at the same time. Apart from this small disadvantage its a really great device and fit for purpose. kind regards Jörg
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TimR		#58 Posted : 12 January 2010 23:06:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		I'm thinking of using one or two MS2 to replace my yet-to-be-upgraded-by-Marklin CS1 (60212). But I'll wait for reviews. Might eventually opt for a CS2 at a latter date, but considering I don't have a permanent layout yet, I'm not really in hurry. OTOH I might keep my CS1 as my main controller and get it updated at Marklin; so hopefully can use MS2 as extra controllers to work with the CS1.
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Fredrik		#59 Posted : 12 January 2010 23:27:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 642		Goofy wrote: Me don´t like Marklin´s MS2 anymore time...!!! After i did read about MS2,i did found out that you can upgrade MS2 but you must have CS2 by doing this!!! And what difference is this compared to the MS1? You would need a CS1 to update the MS1 - nothing new with this... That you will be able to connect a MS 2 as an external controller to as CS 1 I doubt - they don't use the same protocol, maybe when (if?) CS 1 and 2 are able to work together - but then the CS 2 will be the "main controller" anyway...
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TimR		#60 Posted : 12 January 2010 23:41:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		MJ-Teknik wrote: That you will be able to connect a MS 2 as an external controller to as CS 1 I doubt - they don't use the same protocol, maybe when (if?) CS 1 and 2 are able to work together - but then the CS 2 will be the "main controller" anyway... Hi Fredrik, not really surprised if Marklin decided to do this and not provide adequate backwards compatibility to CS1. Everything's still a big "if" for me at this stage... if I decide to keep my CS, I might in the end skip MS2 and get an iPod with Touch Cab software.. The CS2 megasets are coming though; so might look at that option on eBay/dealers..
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Goofy		#61 Posted : 13 January 2010 00:12:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		MJ-Teknik wrote: Goofy wrote: Me don´t like Marklin´s MS2 anymore time...!!! After i did read about MS2,i did found out that you can upgrade MS2 but you must have CS2 by doing this!!! And what difference is this compared to the MS1? You would need a CS1 to update the MS1 - nothing new with this... I have never used MS1 and togehter with CS1 in the first version! And besides MS1 and MS2 are two totally difference,so why are you blaiming against me about MS1...? By using MS2 are 3-4 times better than MS1 in useful!!! But still nedeed CS2 to upgrade MS2,which i´m not interested at all!!! If not less there is an good nice champ at hobbystore,who let´s me upgrade MS2 in hobbystore by using hobbystore´s own CS2. But i don´t think so that it happens like this!!!
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Fredrik		#62 Posted : 13 January 2010 11:56:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 642		Goofy wrote: I have never used MS1 and togehter with CS1 in the first version! And besides MS1 and MS2 are two totally difference,so why are you blaiming against me about MS1...? By using MS2 are 3-4 times better than MS1 in useful!!! But still nedeed CS2 to upgrade MS2,which i´m not interested at all!!! If not less there is an good nice champ at hobbystore,who let´s me upgrade MS2 in hobbystore by using hobbystore´s own CS2. But i don´t think so that it happens like this!!! Not "blaming" you - just pointing out that this is no "new" feature of the MS II that it needs the CS II for any upgrades, just same feature as the MS/CS I! Just out of curiosity: How did you expect any update to be performed if the MS II was NOT to be connected to a CS II??
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tekin65		#63 Posted : 13 January 2010 12:03:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		MJ-Teknik wrote: Just out of curiosity: How did you expect any update to be performed if the MS II was NOT to be connected to a CS II?? Hmmm, here's an idea: install a usb input, insert a keyboard, and punch in the new model numbers: manual update Cem.
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Goofy		#64 Posted : 14 January 2010 13:43:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		On page 6 in english translation...it stands about "finding a locomotiv". It stands,that "the locomotiv to be found must be the only locomotiv standing on the track layout." Arrgghhhhh... That means if you have rest of locomotiv´s standing on the layout must taken off from the layout,before to finding a locomotiv!!!
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H0		#65 Posted : 14 January 2010 14:56:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,453 Location: DE-NW		Goofy wrote: That means if you have rest of locomotiv´s standing on the layout must taken off from the layout,before to finding a locomotiv!!! With CS, the loco must be alone on the programming track. MS has no programming track, therefore loco must be alone on the track. With a simple switch you can manually switch between layout and DIY programming track - and leave all other locos on the unpowered layout.
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Goofy		#66 Posted : 14 January 2010 18:22:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		H0 wrote: Goofy wrote: That means if you have rest of locomotiv´s standing on the layout must taken off from the layout,before to finding a locomotiv!!! With CS, the loco must be alone on the programming track. MS has no programming track, therefore loco must be alone on the track. With a simple switch you can manually switch between layout and DIY programming track - and leave all other locos on the unpowered layout. Huh...??? What are you writing about??? I´m writing about to finding locomotiv! Not to configuring a locomotiv,which you can see it at page 13! I´m not writing about to programming locomotiv!!! "To finding locomotiv and to configuring a locomotiv" is not the same!!!
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RayF		#67 Posted : 14 January 2010 20:10:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Goofy, If I understand it right, the "finding a locomotive" facility is a way to find the address of a locomotive which is unknown to you. It must be the only loco on the track because otherwise the MS2 will find more than one loco and not know which is the one you want to identify. Does that make sense?
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Goofy		#68 Posted : 14 January 2010 20:24:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		RayPayas wrote: Goofy, If I understand it right, the "finding a locomotive" facility is a way to find the address of a locomotive which is unknown to you. It must be the only loco on the track because otherwise the MS2 will find more than one loco and not know which is the one you want to identify. Does that make sense? I have got it!!! It has to do by finding an placement for locomotiv´s to MS2 by choising listplace. It´s kind form of placement for locomotiv´s on the symbol "+". Thanks anyway,Ray!
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Goofy		#69 Posted : 14 January 2010 20:31:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		An question: How many function icon´s symbol is there in MS2 for locomotiv´s...? In CS2 there is 31 symbols by choising. So what about MS2...?
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H0		#70 Posted : 14 January 2010 21:16:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,453 Location: DE-NW		Goofy wrote: It has to do by finding an placement for locomotiv´s to MS2 by choising listplace. It´s kind form of placement for locomotiv´s on the symbol "+". Ray was correct (and you goofed it up once again). The MS will try to find the address of the loco on the track - this works only if there is only one loco on the track. But first you must select a free slot in the MS database to hold that loco. They don't mention any protocol. In the best case, this will work with DCC and MM.
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Goofy		#71 Posted : 15 January 2010 00:25:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		H0 wrote: Goofy wrote: It has to do by finding an placement for locomotiv´s to MS2 by choising listplace. It´s kind form of placement for locomotiv´s on the symbol "+". Ray was correct (and you goofed it up once again). While you did wrote "programming"...! You did goofed it up!!!
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river6109		#72 Posted : 15 January 2010 07:26:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		H0 wrote: Goofy wrote: It has to do by finding an placement for locomotiv´s to MS2 by choising listplace. It´s kind form of placement for locomotiv´s on the symbol "+". Ray was correct (and you goofed it up once again). The MS will try to find the address of the loco on the track - this works only if there is only one loco on the track. But first you must select a free slot in the MS database to hold that loco. They don't mention any protocol. In the best case, this will work with DCC and MM. Tom what are we talking about, finding a loco ? are we talking about digital decoders without mfx or locos with mfx decoders. Locos with digital mfx decoders are automatically recognized with number, symbol, production series number and country of origin name. So why is there a question, raised by Googy, of identifying a loco ? Programming, yes, it has to be on a programming track and as you've mentioned and explained. If you have an ordinary decoder and you seek to find a loco it will help you again by the loco number (if you remember) or by symbols of each individual loco and for the programming, applies the same suggested principle as above. Have I missed something that the MS2 can do and the MS1 couldn't do ? John
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Goofy		#73 Posted : 15 January 2010 10:29:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		Originally Posted by: river6109 Tom what are we talking about, finding a loco ? are we talking about digital decoders without mfx or locos with mfx decoders. Locos with digital mfx decoders are automatically recognized with number, symbol, production series number and country of origin name. So why is there a question, raised by Googy, of identifying a loco ? Programming, yes, it has to be on a programming track and as you've mentioned and explained. If you have an ordinary decoder and you seek to find a loco it will help you again by the loco number (if you remember) or by symbols of each individual loco and for the programming, applies the same suggested principle as above. Have I missed something that the MS2 can do and the MS1 couldn' To finding a locomotive is not to programming loco! Just as identification to MS2 to fill up list for new locomotiv´s. While configuring a locomotive is to programming!
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H0		#74 Posted : 15 January 2010 11:06:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,453 Location: DE-NW		Hi, John! river6109 wrote: Have I missed something that the MS2 can do and the MS1 couldn't do? From the information in the manual, MS 2 seems to be able to search the address of a loco on the track. This is easy for DCC (loco sends feedback by activating the motor), but for MM this requires testing all addresses until the loco responds (probably also by activating the motor). Since MS2 has only one track output, this can be done reliably only with just one loco on the track. A DCC controller must be able to detect track power anyway. This can also be used to search for MM addresses. This has nothing to do with programming, but it's normally done on the programming track (IB, CS 1 reloaded). MS 2 does all programming related tasks on the main track. Good for some Uhlenbrock decoders where you can only change the address if you know the old address. To read and not to understand - that's the answer ...
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RMW		#75 Posted : 15 January 2010 20:31:53(UTC) Retweet
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steventrain		#76 Posted : 16 January 2010 13:15:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		pa-pauls wrote: Want a photo of a working MS-2 Here it is : http://home.online.no/~pa-pauls/nyheteretc.cfm Nice pictures. Edited by moderator 26 January 2010 16:42:13(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Goofy		#77 Posted : 16 January 2010 15:40:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		steventrain wrote: pa-pauls wrote: Want a photo of a working MS-2 Here it is : http://home.online.no/~pa-pauls/nyheteretc.cfm Nice pictures. Ehummm... This paged cannot show up. Do you have something wrong now at yours online?
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river6109		#78 Posted : 16 January 2010 16:11:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		steventrain wrote: pa-pauls wrote: Want a photo of a working MS-2 Here it is : http://home.online.no/~pa-pauls/nyheteretc.cfm Nice pictures.
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river6109		#79 Posted : 16 January 2010 16:18:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		river6109 wrote: steventrain wrote: pa-pauls wrote: Want a photo of a working MS-2 Here it is : http://home.online.no/~pa-pauls/nyheteretc.cfm Nice pictures. Goofy try this website above. What has happend was eadded to the website hence no picture. John
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Goofy		#80 Posted : 16 January 2010 16:32:11(UTC) Retweet
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steventrain		#81 Posted : 20 January 2010 23:05:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		Hi, The MS2 will be delivery to shops next month from marklin.
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Goofy		#82 Posted : 21 January 2010 00:17:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		steventrain wrote: Hi, The MS2 will be delivery to shops next month from marklin. Already soon...? Really...???
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davemr		#83 Posted : 21 January 2010 00:22:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 983 Location: ,		Goofy Are you going to buy the new MS2.
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steventrain		#84 Posted : 21 January 2010 23:08:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		Goofy wrote: Already soon...? Really...??? See Marklin 2010 delivery date on http://mediencms.maerkli...in-Neuheiten_2010-01.pdf Also Trix MS2 delivery March - http://www.trix.de/produ...IX-Neuheiten_2010-01.pdf
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Goofy		#85 Posted : 22 January 2010 10:23:14(UTC) Retweet
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Torbjorn		#86 Posted : 26 January 2010 13:54:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/01/2010(UTC) Posts: 27 Location: Norway		@ Dreadnought, 8th of January: I have contacted Märklin and asked them please to make the "MS2" truely mobile. I can't see the point in having a second control box attaced to the Central Station when the cable is less than 2 meter long. That's hardly mobile in my book. They should skip the cable and use IR or radio signals. For those who have big layouts, walking next to the train as it running is fun. Märklin replied that my ideas would be taken into consideration, but that actual products being developed had nothing to do with ideas they received from people. That's law jargon for "we will not pay you if we use your idea". I don't care about that as long as the mobile station becoms wireless. But now it seems it won't be mobile after all. What a pitty.
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RayF		#87 Posted : 26 January 2010 14:57:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Marklin made an IR controller once to go with the 6021 system, as I recall. It spent very little time in the catalogue and nobody I know ever used it. Does anyone know why? I personally prefer a wired controller. At least you can find it when you see a crash coming! It's a bit like cordless 'phones. How many times have you spent ages just looking for the thing to make a call, and ended up having to call it from your mobile? At the moment Marklin make a wireless controller for basic starter sets, only capable of controlling 4 locos and restricted to just one function. Is it possible to integrate this into a more complex digital system?
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David Dewar		#88 Posted : 26 January 2010 16:36:29(UTC) Retweet
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jeehring		#89 Posted : 26 January 2010 18:54:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		RayPayas wrote: Marklin made an IR controller once to go with the 6021 system, as I recall. It spent very little time in the catalogue and nobody I know ever used it. Does anyone know why? According to my dealer ( who is also an old marklinist since he was a little boy), this item was not successful. Despite it was doing the job and worked without any problems, at this time they didn't sell enough, people were not interested . ( it's like the Marklin Model M track during the fifties . Very large radius curves and turnouts : Marklin was too much in advance , they produced it for 2 or 3 years, then stopped. I's a pity : such a nice track ! ) I agree with you : wireless command station to control miniatures train is not a real improvment for me, not at all. To play with my trains I must stay near the layout.... Driving my trains while staying in the kitcheen or taking a bath = no sens. Just a general trend in our society .
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Goofy		#90 Posted : 26 January 2010 19:36:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		RayPayas wrote: Marklin made an IR controller once to go with the 6021 system, as I recall. It spent very little time in the catalogue and nobody I know ever used it. Does anyone know why? Off topic now! I did had this wireless IR controller to next of CU 6021. Itemnr was 6070 (box) and 6071 (IR controller). They was expensive under that time of inflation for customer. Some people did also thought,that Marklins IR controller should disturb TV (television)! So there fore avoiding to shop IR controller too! Marklin did just simple stop producing also caused by of disturb at radiocontrol traffic. Technology at that time was not so good presentable inside of IR control for modelrailway too! I think Marklin will restarted again a new IR control for trainlayout,but the question is just what kind of functional shall IR controller have...?
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LionelMPC		#91 Posted : 26 January 2010 19:44:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 213 Location: Washington state, USA		I tried out the little wireless controller that came with my 29161 starter set. It was a bit weird but actually works very well, although I would still prefer a knob I turned instead of pushing buttons to speed up/slow down. It also can control the f1-f4 functions as well (5 functions like 6021). I also have the old Lionel Trainmaster system to control my Lionel floor layout in the other room, it has a handheld remote and works by radio signals. The controller radios to a command base, and then for digital locos it uses the outside rails to broadcast a radio signal which is picked up by antennas in the locomotives. It works very well, and you can also control analog locos (at the same time if you want). It is very nice to not be stuck in one place running the layout, even on a small one you can walk over right where you are switching or doing whatever and be right next to the action. I do agree that there is no point in running the trains from my kitchen, even though I can do it, but even in a relatively small area it is nice to be able to walk around and not to have to worry about cables. The radio signal does not interfer with anything else in my house either. If the MS2 were radio wireless I think it would be great (IR not so much). Doesn't sound very likely to happen though. -James
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rbw993		#92 Posted : 26 January 2010 21:44:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,058		I think the main determinant for need for wireless is size of the layout. If one is standing in front of a 2X3 meter table top layout wireless isn't really necessary. My Lionel layout is an around the walls setup so I use the Trainmaster system that James mentions. It is a great system with incredible sound. I only run trains with it, switch control s analog. I also have the LGB Digital System (by Massoth) for my outdoor layout and that works well except that the switch decoders die on occasion. SInce Marklin already has a relationship with Massoth through LGB perhaps they could do something with them. Roger
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jeehring		#93 Posted : 27 January 2010 18:56:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		If I could choose , I'd like some wireless items like : wireless s88 modules, wireless turnouts ,any concept of wireless accessories....I don't know if it is possible .
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Dreadnought		#94 Posted : 17 February 2010 06:39:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 422 Location: Niagara, Ontario		I need advice. Three months ago I sent a defective MS1 back to Marklin. They have told me it is beyond repair. It is out of warranty. They have offered to replace it with a MS2, and say I also need a connection box 60113. My layout is M track. I use a CS2 and have one MS1 plugged in as a slave to the CS. The price for this is E99.99, plus shipping. They say the usual cost is 159.90, so I am saving about E60.00. I have about twenty locomotives, and a further ten being converted to digital. If I answer no they will send the unrepaiable MS1 back. What do the members recommend?
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Goofy		#95 Posted : 17 February 2010 10:27:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		Dreadnought wrote: I need advice. Three months ago I sent a defective MS1 back to Marklin. They have told me it is beyond repair. It is out of warranty. They have offered to replace it with a MS2, and say I also need a connection box 60113. My layout is M track. I use a CS2 and have one MS1 plugged in as a slave to the CS. The price for this is E99.99, plus shipping. They say the usual cost is 159.90, so I am saving about E60.00. I have about twenty locomotives, and a further ten being converted to digital. If I answer no they will send the unrepaiable MS1 back. What do the members recommend? Accept an new MS2! You save money besides! The old MS1 shall not been producing anymore time,just because to save money for Marklin company. Further ten being more locomotiv converted to digital,says that you are placement money by expanded yours layout digital. So get an new MS2 instead!
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Bigdaddynz		#96 Posted : 17 February 2010 10:52:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,773 Location: New Zealand		Get the MS2.
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David Dewar		#97 Posted : 17 February 2010 12:48:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,460 Location: Scotland		Seems a reasonable offer. Go for the MS2.
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Hemmerich		#98 Posted : 17 February 2010 12:57:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		- Edited by user 20 November 2010 01:42:40(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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GSRR		#99 Posted : 17 February 2010 14:00:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,339 Location: USA		Go for it. Regards, Thomas
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jeehring		#100 Posted : 17 February 2010 16:13:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		If I were you: no hesitation, go for the option MS2 !
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