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LionelMPC		#1 Posted : 07 January 2010 22:25:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 213 Location: Washington state, USA		Hello everyone, I'm thinking about buying a new BR 218 for my layout, either the 39180 with sound or 39181 without sound. The listing of functions for the 39180 in the catalog is confusing, there are six "X's" in the column for the 6021! Does anyone here actually know what functions you can control with a 6021? Normally I would opt for the one without sound but in this case it's not very much more, so I'm thinking about it. Also, I read somewhere on here that the on older M locos with ESU decoders, you could program F5-F8 on the next address, is this no longer possible with new locos? If it is I'd even think about the 39189 BR 210 instead... p.s. telling me to read the manual is not helpful, since I don't yet have the loco or the manual, so please don't bother -James
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Bigdaddynz		#2 Posted : 07 January 2010 23:23:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		James, you can download manuals for Marklin locomotives in pdf format from http://www.maerklin.de/d...?page=1&perpage=1137
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LionelMPC		#3 Posted : 08 January 2010 00:00:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 213 Location: Washington state, USA		Thanks Bigdaddy! I knew they were online somewhere, but didn't know where.... When I said don't tell me to read the manual, I really meant don't point me to something I don't have - which I do now. -James
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H0		#4 Posted : 08 January 2010 00:00:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Hi, James! LionelMPC wrote: Also, I read somewhere on here that the on older M locos with ESU decoders, you could program F5-F8 on the next address, is this no longer possible with new locos? If it is I'd even think about the 39189 BR 210 instead... AFAIK this also works with new decoders, but I think these locos still have ESU decoders. At least the first batches had. Since 39189 is out of production, I take it for granted it comes with ESU decoder. The functions that work with Mobile Station will also work with CU 6021 (using 2 addresses).
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RayF		#5 Posted : 08 January 2010 00:13:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		I have the 39180, and I control it with the 6021. The functions as described in the database are incorrect. The 6th function (direct control) cannot be accessed from the 6021. I haven't tried setting up a second address for the extra functions yet as I didn't think it was worth losing another address just to be able to turn off the brake squeal and the acceleration and braking delay. I don't know if it'll work. The database entry can be found here: http://www.maerklin.de/p...im=1&sCountryCode=en
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LionelMPC		#6 Posted : 08 January 2010 00:24:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 213 Location: Washington state, USA		Okay, looking through the manuals, the 39180 looks pretty good, the only things I can't do with a 6021 as is are turn the brake squeal off and turn the ABV off, neither of which is a big deal to me, I may just go for that one. Have till the weekend to make a decision. The one that really surprised me though, the 39189 BR 210, the functions f1-f4 in the manual are not the ones shown in the the catalogs! I'm a little confused by that. It also has some functions that are only controllable with the CS/CS2, unlike the others, so no use to me. Thanks for everyone's help. -James
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Bigdaddynz		#7 Posted : 08 January 2010 00:43:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		If it helps, I'm thinking about getting a 39180.
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H0		#8 Posted : 08 January 2010 00:48:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		LionelMPC wrote: The one that really surprised me though, the 39189 BR 210, the functions f1-f4 in the manual are not the ones shown in the the catalogs! Same functions in manual and product database (only names are different).
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LionelMPC		#9 Posted : 08 January 2010 01:13:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 213 Location: Washington state, USA		H0 wrote: LionelMPC wrote: The one that really surprised me though, the 39189 BR 210, the functions f1-f4 in the manual are not the ones shown in the the catalogs! Same functions in manual and product database (only names are different). What I should say is that the functions f1-f3 are shown in the catalog to control the diesel sound and both light functions, but in the manual the light functions are f6/f8 and the turbine/horn sounds are f1 and f3. The catalog has them all mixed up. I am thinking I'm going for the 39180 anyway, so I guess it doesn't really matter for me. -James
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applor		#10 Posted : 08 January 2010 01:41:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,776 Location: Brisbane, Queensland		Regardless you can always turn operational sounds on/off on any sound models using a 6021 and imo thats the main thing anyways and makes it worth paying for sound.
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Davy		#11 Posted : 08 January 2010 01:41:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		If you still can get a br210. I would buy that one. I have the br 218 and the br210. It is almost the same loc and sound but the br210 has as bonus the gasturbinesound and the combination of the dieselsound and gasturbine is one hell of a sound.
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Goofy		#12 Posted : 08 January 2010 01:43:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		LionelMPC wrote: H0 wrote: LionelMPC wrote: The one that really surprised me though, the 39189 BR 210, the functions f1-f4 in the manual are not the ones shown in the the catalogs! Same functions in manual and product database (only names are different). What I should say is that the functions f1-f3 are shown in the catalog to control the diesel sound and both light functions, but in the manual the light functions are f6/f8 and the turbine/horn sounds are f1 and f3. The catalog has them all mixed up. I am thinking I'm going for the 39180 anyway, so I guess it doesn't really matter for me. -James With an MS1 or MS2,you can control all soundfunctions! MS2 is not arrived out yet. With MS2,you can control 16 functions at one locomotiv,while MS1 is only 9 functions! I recommend you to buy 39180 with sounds and functions too.
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LionelMPC		#13 Posted : 08 January 2010 07:05:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 213 Location: Washington state, USA		Goofy, I know that, but I don't want to get an MS1 as my 6021+6036 works great. I like having two controls right next to each other (like the CS/CS2 as well). I would have to buy two mobile stations to replace them, and they would take up way more room on my control panel. I'm happy with what I have. I can barely afford to get one of these locos I'm talking about, the CS2 is way too expensive for me at the moment. Davy, I just saw the BR 210 on youtube, you were not kidding, now I'm thinking of that even though it's the most expensive of the three. Plus I really would like to have the TEE Bavaria set, as the train is short enough to look alright on my small layout. This is getting more expensive by the hour! -James
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Goofy		#14 Posted : 08 January 2010 10:30:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		It´s up to yourself,Lionel! Remember here,that MS1 are sometimes often in bad quality. Specially from startersets with MS1! You can take an step in good time,by shopping locomotivs and new digitalsystem. So long as yours old digitalsystem is still in works,just keep on.
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H0		#15 Posted : 08 January 2010 10:47:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Goofy wrote: With an MS1 or MS2,you can control all soundfunctions! This is not true for MS1 and 39189. MS1 can only control the sounds that a CU 6021 can also control (9 functions), but this loco has 12 functions. This is not true for MS1 or MS2 and 39180: this loco has hidden sounds that are accessible with CS1 or LokProgrammer.
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Goofy		#16 Posted : 08 January 2010 11:37:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		H0 wrote: Goofy wrote: With an MS1 or MS2,you can control all soundfunctions! This is not true for MS1 and 39189. MS1 can only control the sounds that a CU 6021 can also control (9 functions), but this loco has 12 functions. This is not true for MS1 or MS2 and 39180: this loco has hidden sounds that are accessible with CS1 or LokProgrammer. We are not writing about 39189!!! Lionel did wrote 39180. So it´s not the same functions in both locomotivs! If loco 39180 has hidden sounds...then in case why is there not standing in loco´s information about that? And besides...Marklin´s locomotivs sound cannot been expanding with severals sounds function via file! MS1 can control 9 functions,so with 39180 who has 8-9 functions you can control all of them.
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H0		#17 Posted : 08 January 2010 11:50:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Goofy wrote: We are not writing about 39189!!! Lionel did wrote 39180. In his first post in this thread he mentions 39180, 39181, and 39189. In his last post he mentions the Bavaria he would also buy if he would get a 39189. It seems you don't know what we are writing about. Goofy wrote: MS1 can control 9 functions,so with 39180 who has 8-9 functions you can control all of them. Not all sounds of 39180 are active ex works. My 39180 has more than 9 functions now.
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Goofy		#18 Posted : 08 January 2010 12:17:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		H0 wrote: Goofy wrote: MS1 can control 9 functions,so with 39180 who has 8-9 functions you can control all of them. Not all sounds of 39180 are active ex works. My 39180 has more than 9 functions now. I did check after first for good reasons: 39180-7 functions/maximum functions from Marklin 39189-12 functions/ditto It seems here,that you did changed out sounddecoder at yours 39180 by to get an new sounddecoder from ESU which have more functions to programming via lokprogrammer from ESU.
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Goofy		#19 Posted : 08 January 2010 12:29:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		And besides...it is not possible to have two adresses at Mfx decoder in one locomotiv,when you are using Control Unit 6021! With CU 6021,you can only control maximum 5 functions with an Mfx locomotiv. While MS or and CS all functions can been control. By using 39189...you can only using 9 functions with MS1,while rest of it by using CS1 or CS2.
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Goofy		#20 Posted : 08 January 2010 12:32:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		H0 wrote: Goofy wrote: We are not writing about 39189!!! Lionel did wrote 39180. In his first post in this thread he mentions 39180, 39181, and 39189. In his last post he mentions the Bavaria he would also buy if he would get a 39189. It seems you don't know what we are writing about. He did created an topic,by asking to get 39180 or 39181.
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Davy		#21 Posted : 09 January 2010 02:32:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		Goofy wrote: H0 wrote: Goofy wrote: MS1 can control 9 functions,so with 39180 who has 8-9 functions you can control all of them. Not all sounds of 39180 are active ex works. My 39180 has more than 9 functions now. I did check after first for good reasons: 39180-7 functions/maximum functions from Marklin 39189-12 functions/ditto It seems here,that you did changed out sounddecoder at yours 39180 by to get an new sounddecoder from ESU which have more functions to programming via lokprogrammer from ESU. With a CS1 you can also activid some extra functions off a br 218. These are I belief a conducteur flute and a notice that the train will leave soon.
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Tex		#22 Posted : 09 January 2010 03:33:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 276 Location: Houston, Texas		I have the 39181 and operate it with a 6021 control unit. My first choice was the 39180 , however, the 39181 was in stock at a discounted price. Having sound would have cost over $ 100 more and I don't think that it was worth that much more. The engine looks great and is very smooth in operation with a high pulling power which is needed on my multi-level layout.
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LionelMPC		#23 Posted : 09 January 2010 04:36:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 213 Location: Washington state, USA		Well, after everyone's input, and after checking the manuals carefully (thanks again BD!), I made a decision. I have just ordered the 39189 BR 210. All I needed to know was that I could control the important sounds (diesel engine, horn, gas turbine) from my 6021. The catalog would lead you to believe that they are not, but the manual clearly says that they are. I am also going to get the 43859 TEE Bavaria car set to pull behind it, after my budget recovers in a few months. I've been eyeing that set ever since I first saw it in the catalog, especially since it's short enough to fit comfortably on my layout. My train budget might be blown for a while, but I am so excited! -James
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Bigdaddynz		#24 Posted : 09 January 2010 05:00:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Well done James, you will enjoy them very much.
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Goofy		#25 Posted : 09 January 2010 10:50:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		Davy wrote: With a CS1 you can also activid some extra functions off a br 218. These are I belief a conducteur flute and a notice that the train will leave soon.
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Goofy		#26 Posted : 09 January 2010 10:52:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		LionelMPC wrote: Well, after everyone's input, and after checking the manuals carefully (thanks again BD!), I made a decision. I have just ordered the 39189 BR 210. All I needed to know was that I could control the important sounds (diesel engine, horn, gas turbine) from my 6021. The catalog would lead you to believe that they are not, but the manual clearly says that they are. I am also going to get the 43859 TEE Bavaria car set to pull behind it, after my budget recovers in a few months. I've been eyeing that set ever since I first saw it in the catalog, especially since it's short enough to fit comfortably on my layout. My train budget might be blown for a while, but I am so excited! -James Nice! Good luck,James!
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davemr		#27 Posted : 09 January 2010 12:47:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 983 Location: ,		Hi James. Good choice. Just for interest Brawa do a 216 at a good price and I think is metal. dave
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H0		#28 Posted : 09 January 2010 14:32:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Goofy wrote: And besides...it is not possible to have two adresses at Mfx decoder in one locomotiv,when you are using Control Unit 6021! With CU 6021,you can only control maximum 5 functions with an Mfx locomotiv. You're talking crap! You probably don't know what the L and F buttons of a CU 6021 are for. It can control 2 addresses at the same time: one address for throttle and f0, one address for f1 through f4. Thus a CU 6021 is (almost) perfect to control 9 functions of a loco with mfx decoder. You can control f5 through f8 of the loco (secondary address) while the throttle still controls the primary address. Goofy wrote: Davy wrote: With a CS1 you can also activid some extra functions off a br 218. These are I belief a conducteur flute and a notice that the train will leave soon. Yes, BR 218 has at least two hidden sounds. The shunting mode of the decoder is not accessible ex works, but you can assign it to a function key.
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Tex		#29 Posted : 09 January 2010 21:09:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 276 Location: Houston, Texas		dave I received my Brawa 41127 , sound equipted V 160, on new years eve. It is metal with a LocSound 3.5 decoder and operates well on my 6021 with light funtions and sound. I have not attempted to re-program it and operate with the default address of 3. Tme will tell, but as of now I would rate the Brawa V 160 as fully equivalent to the new Marklin DB 218 diesel in looks and performance. I only use the horn sounds as I find the engine sounds too loud and distracting. tex
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davemr		#30 Posted : 10 January 2010 13:42:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 983 Location: ,		Tex wrote: dave I received my Brawa 41127 , sound equipted V 160, on new years eve. It is metal with a LocSound 3.5 decoder and operates well on my 6021 with light funtions and sound. I have not attempted to re-program it and operate with the default address of 3. Tme will tell, but as of now I would rate the Brawa V 160 as fully equivalent to the new Marklin DB 218 diesel in looks and performance. I only use the horn sounds as I find the engine sounds too loud and distracting. tex Hi Tex. Looks like a goodbuy. I think the Br216 is available without sound at around 130 euros which is good for a Brawa loco dave
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Goofy		#31 Posted : 10 January 2010 16:16:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		H0 wrote: Goofy wrote: And besides...it is not possible to have two adresses at Mfx decoder in one locomotiv,when you are using Control Unit 6021! With CU 6021,you can only control maximum 5 functions with an Mfx locomotiv. You're talking crap! You probably don't know what the L and F buttons of a CU 6021 are for. It can control 2 addresses at the same time: one address for throttle and f0, one address for f1 through f4. Thus a CU 6021 is (almost) perfect to control 9 functions of a loco with mfx decoder. You can control f5 through f8 of the loco (secondary address) while the throttle still controls the primary address. If this is truth,then in case why don´t that it stands in the locomotivs manual...? It shows only how to program CV value. It also stand only f0+f1-f4. It don´t stand nothing about 2 second adress in the manual! Because it´s stand:Adress set at the factory 21! That means,just one adress! So i´m not writing crap!!!
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Goofy		#32 Posted : 10 January 2010 16:27:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		H0 wrote: Goofy wrote: Davy wrote: With a CS1 you can also activid some extra functions off a br 218. These are I belief a conducteur flute and a notice that the train will leave soon. Yes, BR 218 has at least two hidden sounds. The shunting mode of the decoder is not accessible ex works, but you can assign it to a function key. Something is wrong here... Are you using ESU lokprogrammer to make sure to assign it to as functions key? Because it don´t stand all functions as hidden via locomotiv manual.(By using MS1 or and CS2) Marklin should or else did said,that there is hidden sounds via manual but it don´t!!!
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TomB		#33 Posted : 10 January 2010 20:57:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 412 Location: Asker, Norway		Hello James. I liked Br 218 a lot. I bought 3 of them: Br 218 231-9 (39180 - red, with sound) Br 218 143-6 (39182 - orange/light gray, with sound) Br 218 256-6 (39183 - white(blue, with sound) I find the sound very good. To your question: I would not choose 39181 because I like sound.
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H0		#34 Posted : 10 January 2010 21:15:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Goofy wrote: It don´t stand nothing about 2 second adress in the manual! Forget the manual. It stands in the Märkln FAQ. And it was written in this forum at least 100 times. Märklin products have many features that are not described in the manual. Shunting mode and hidden sounds can be activated via Central Station 60212.
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steventrain		#35 Posted : 10 January 2010 23:22:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		I have the 39180 run very well with sounds excellent. There is no issue or faulty as well.
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Goofy		#36 Posted : 10 January 2010 23:28:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		H0 wrote: Goofy wrote: It don´t stand nothing about 2 second adress in the manual! Forget the manual. It stands in the Märkln FAQ. And it was written in this forum at least 100 times. Märklin products have many features that are not described in the manual. Shunting mode and hidden sounds can be activated via Central Station 60212. Only in 60212...??? Doesn´t matter how Marklin are doing with FAQ...! It MUST STAND in the manual anyway!!! I will not forget manual,since it´s an good understanding about to learn locomotiv but still dumb acting from Marklin!!!
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LionelMPC		#37 Posted : 11 January 2010 07:01:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 213 Location: Washington state, USA		Can someone point me to a thread that explains how to program the second address with a 6021? Since everyone is all excited about it I am interested. Should have the loco toward the end of this week hopefully. I never expected to generate this much interest! -James
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applor		#38 Posted : 11 January 2010 07:36:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,776 Location: Brisbane, Queensland		LionelMPC wrote: Can someone point me to a thread that explains how to program the second address with a 6021? Since everyone is all excited about it I am interested. Should have the loco toward the end of this week hopefully. I never expected to generate this much interest! -James You can access 9 functions of MFX decoders using a 6021. You can read about it in this thread where I ask the same question: https://www.marklin-user...aspx?g=posts&t=14715 It is apparantly CV75 for loksound MFX decoders (as used on marklin locos up until last year I think) I have not had a chance to get around to changing the address, but it certainly works using its default address. Goofy: in the manual for the BR210 starter set loco I have (29820), it does actually describe accessing all functions using 2 addresses on the loco. By default it was address 16 and 17. In other models they may not list this for whatever reason or it may be disabled.
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Deborail		#39 Posted : 11 January 2010 07:54:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 819 Location: RAK		LionelMPC wrote: Hello everyone, I'm thinking about buying a new BR 218 for my layout, either the 39180 with sound or 39181 without sound. The listing of functions for the 39180 in the catalog is confusing, there are six "X's" in the column for the 6021! Does anyone here actually know what functions you can control with a 6021? Normally I would opt for the one without sound but in this case it's not very much more, so I'm thinking about it. Also, I read somewhere on here that the on older M locos with ESU decoders, you could program F5-F8 on the next address, is this no longer possible with new locos? If it is I'd even think about the 39189 BR 210 instead... p.s. telling me to read the manual is not helpful, since I don't yet have the loco or the manual, so please don't bother -James I have the trix blue beige BR 218 item 22221 but with no sound and i am very pleased with it, it is a loco with loads of 'character'....
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H0		#40 Posted : 11 January 2010 15:51:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		applor wrote: In other models they may not list this for whatever reason or it may be disabled. The second address cannot be disabled, but they set it to 255 with many new locos. AFAIK second address (CV 75) also works with non-ESU mfx decoders.
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LionelMPC		#41 Posted : 17 January 2010 01:19:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 213 Location: Washington state, USA		Hello Everyone, My 39189 BR 210 came today. It runs great and I'm very pleased with it! It looks good pulling my express and will look even better once I have the TEE Bavaria set to go with, which I will get in a few months hopefully. I like the gas turbine sound, on top of the diesel engine it's quite a noise. For anyone who might be interested, I also had absolutely no trouble assigning the second address using CV 75, so I have access to f5-f8 as well. Mainly this lets me turn off the taillights and use the high pitched horn. It was not any more difficult that programming the other CV's and to me worth it. The date on the box is 03/08. -James
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LionelMPC		#42 Posted : 17 January 2010 01:50:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 213 Location: Washington state, USA		Hello again, After a little more experimenting, I've found out that using the L and F buttons on the 6021/6036 I can control all 9 functions on the BR 210 while controlling another locomotive (including the headlights) at the same time. Until now, I really had no idea what these controller could really do. For example, I can have my 6021 controlling the throttle and f0-f4, and then have the 6036 with the second address controlling the f5-f8 functions. At the same time the throttle and function button on the 6036 can control my BR 23 or another loco. It sounds complicated but its really not, and it works very well. Some of the posts in this thread did not make sense to me before, but now I understand. -James
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Goofy		#43 Posted : 17 January 2010 11:56:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		Hi James! Good to reading,that you are very satisfaction with yours new locomotiv! When i did had an CU6021,there was no information at all with second adresses for loco. But it was also at that time there was only 5 functions at locomotiv! The symbol "L" was standing for locomotiv´s functions. While "F" was for exemple passengercars with disco or and waiter at panorama wagon with lightingfunction too! But the most important is that you have become pleasant with yours locomotiv!
		H0 DCC = Digital Command Control
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