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Here they are: http://stummi.foren-city...erbstneuheiten-2008.htmlCode:
Artikel-Nr. Artikelbeschreibung UVP
00775 Display Langer Heinrich DB 299,40
00783 Display Baumaschinen CASE 239,40
00790 Impulsdisplays Circus Mondoli
00840 Mini-Display Circus Mondolino
00841 Maxi-Display Circus Mondolino
00842 Maxi-Display Circus Mondolino
00843 Neuheitenbestückung "Circus Mondolino"
26001 Mobile Vision ICE m.Videobril 849,95
29411 Startpackung Circus Mondolino 129,95
37774 Schnelltriebwagen SVT 04 DB 429,95
37866 Schnelltriebwagen RBe 2/4 SBB 299,95
37904 Diesel-Rangierlok BR 294 DB A 239,95
48408 Weihnachtswagen H0 2008 29,95
60173 Booster 199,95
60213 Central Station 699,95
77500 Hunt'sche Großbekohlungsanlag 299,95
78090 Ergänzungspackung "Tierpflege 19,95
78091 Ergänzungspackung "Artisten" 19,95
78092 Ergänzungspackung Circuszelt 59,95
78093 Circus-Ergänzung Circustiere 19,95
78094 Ergänzungspackung Seiltänzeri 19,95
78095 Ergänzungspackung Bunte Gleis 19,95
80618 Weihnachtswagen Z 2008 31,95
89205 Hunt'sche Großbekohlungsanlag 199,95
89931 Rollenprüfstand Spur Z(4 RB) 169,95
89932 Rollenprüfstand Spur Z(8 RB) 249,95
89933 Rollenbockpaar Spur Z 24,95
I hope this information is correct ... Difficult to say w/o pictures, but I think there are no must-haves for me. That's good for me after all those AC special sales by Roco, Fleischmann, Roco, Roco, and Roco ... Edit: removed the leading zeroes from the ref. no. Edit: New items now available as PDF. German PDF here: http://medienpdb.maerkli...in_HerbstNH-2008c-DE.pdfCode:MHI articles from PDF:
26410 S-Bahn-Prototype 399,95
47040 Tragwagen-Set 79,95
46470 Chemiekesselwagen-Set 89,95
88972 BR 44 Öl 229,95
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Good to see a few Z scale items in that lot. I can work out what most of them are, but a "Hunt'sche Großbekohlungsanlag" is a total mystery to me! Can anyone translate, please?  |
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The Mobil Vision ICE "thingy" sems very interesting @ 850 Euros !!
That will be interesting to see what it will be.
Actual news will be very soon now with pictures etc.
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BTW whats a "Hunt'sche Großbekohlungsanlag" ? |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by ozzman<br />Good to see a few Z scale items in that lot. I can work out what most of them are, but a "Hunt'sche Großbekohlungsanlage" is a total mystery to me! Can anyone translate, please? I do not have more details than you about "Huntsche", but a direct translation of "Grossbekohlungsanlage" would be a large coal loading facility. I hope that this points you in the right direction. Likely a Maerklin version of this Trix kit: http://www.togcenter.dk/assets/images/CIMG1194.jpgMike C PS: this video might help: http://www.bahnbetriebsw...Marklin_flash/index.html
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Isn't the 060213 the new CS II? If so, we now know the price -- 699.99 Euro, nicht wahr?
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Thanks Mike. If I'd looked at the trees instead of the forest I might have been able to work it out, given that Groß is big, kohl is coal and anlage has something to do with loading (doesn't it?). No doubt a nice accessory, but for a few tank loks? |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by fred443
<br />Isn't the 060213 the new CS II? If so, we now know the price -- 699.99 Euro, nicht wahr?
Yup that's it! Rather expensive, given that the Viessmann Commander, on which the CS2 is supposedly based, is 520 euros at the Lokshop. One would hope the street price, or the price for a CS2 from a broken up starter set would be cheaper.
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Interesting, not for me personally, but seeing the Circus Mondolino range, the Hunt'sche Großbekohlungsanlage, the mobile vision and the new central station, with booster, in one set of newly announced items is certainly a confirmation of a lot of "hints" that could be observed on the Spielwarenmesse last February. The only real surprise to me is the new Roter Pfeil (RBe 2/4), although I absolutely think that a demand for this model exists.
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Hello, the Huntsche Grossbekohlungsanlage is a additional carbon bunker to enlarge the existing one of Märklin. It is the same thing only without crane. Nice, CSII and Booster are coming out at the same time. The official price of commander is 665 Euro, so Märklin put it in the same region, but higher. Guess what a Märklinist would prefer  We will see how the street price will be. I think we will wee the price going down only after christmas. rgds Stephan
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />...given that the Viessmann Commander, on which the CS2 is supposedly based, is 520 euros at the Lokshop.
Slight price adjustment there, the correct Lokshop price is 552 euros. Still a bit cheaper than supermoee's 665. I agree, the street price may end up a bit cheaper, especially once units from broken up starter sets are available.
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Any one knew what was the "official" price of CS 60212 when it first came out?
We can probably draw some estimates on what the street price for 60213 will be from there?
Mobile Vision ICE (26001)?
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Hello,
If I remember well the start price of CS1 in 2005 was 499 Euro.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TimR
Mobile Vision ICE (26001)?
Even more expensive than CS2.. I hope they release more details soon.
This system was demonstrated on the Spielwarenmesse, the set up there consisted of a ICE with a camera mounted in the head, and some special goggle like screens. While wearing these goggles, one can get the impression of being inside the ICE driving around the layout, pretty cool! Some more details of the system presented last February can be found here: http://blog.focus.de/techtoys/archives/1181# (in German) and a picture of the shown system can be found here: http://www.marklin.nl/ni...ldingen/MobileVision.jpgInformation on this prototype in English was unfortunately untraceable. Now the only question is to what extent the production version matches the prototype shown.... |
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Interesting that the "Red Arrow" is a 37xxx. I would have though it was an ideal candidate for the SDS motor.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
<br />Interesting that the "Red Arrow" is a 37xxx. I would have though it was an ideal candidate for the SDS motor.
Ray
Hello, to do this they have to re-engineer it. SDS means motor in the center of the carbody and power transmission by cardanic shafts. They have to re-engineer the interior design, the boogies and probably carbody. It is not worth now for such small volumes. Märklin has not so much money yet. The CS2 development absorbed enough of it. rgds Stephan
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Hi Stephan, I didn't think there was a need to re-engineer the whole drive system. The SDS motor is quite small, and I had the idea it might fit onto the motor bogie, in the same place as the original "can" motor is mounted. They have done this in steamers, where the SDS is mounted in the boiler in the same way as some previous models had a "Can" motor as, for example, the Br18.1. I don't have a Red Arrow, so I have no idea what the dimensions are, so this might not be possible. This is how the motor is mounted in a 3605 Red Arrow:  As you can see, it already uses a short Cardan shaft to drive the bogie. Ray |
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Thanks, Tom. Alas, no Italian nor American stuff. Not even a little Gator ... |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TimR
<br />Any one knew what was the "official" price of CS 60212 when it first came out? I don't know, but in 2006 RRP was 549 Euro and currently it's 579 Euro. Normally you can get M* product 20% cheaper than RRP. Outside Europe you can even save the VAT (19%, therefore prices will be 15.97% lower). No CS II starter sets announced yet. CS II from starter sets will still be cheaper. |
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Hi all, This model shop is always quick in releasing the latest information. Guus |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by pa-pauls<br />No pictures yet No, not yet, afaik the Dutch dealers are not even informed of the list yet, so I would regard it as being a leak... The pictures will likely follow shortly with the official announcement. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by RayPayas<br />Hi Stephan, I didn't think there was a need to re-engineer the whole drive system. The SDS motor is quite small, and I had the idea it might fit onto the motor bogie, in the same place as the original "can" motor is mounted. They have done this in steamers, where the SDS is mounted in the boiler in the same way as some previous models had a "Can" motor as, for example, the Br18.1. I don't have a Red Arrow, so I have no idea what the dimensions are, so this might not be possible. This is how the motor is mounted in a 3605 Red Arrow: As you can see, it already uses a short Cardan shaft to drive the bogie. Ray Looks reasonable, it might very well be the case that the model will have a SDS, even though the number is a 37xxx one. (Note that the 3790x BR 290 series also comes with SDS, despite being numbered 3790x) |
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On the Marklin website, the red arrow will have MFX, a special motor and a whistle sound.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by RayPayas<br />Hi Stephan, I didn't think there was a need to re-engineer the whole drive system. The SDS motor is quite small, and I had the idea it might fit onto the motor bogie, in the same place as the original "can" motor is mounted. They have done this in steamers, where the SDS is mounted in the boiler in the same way as some previous models had a "Can" motor as, for example, the Br18.1. I don't have a Red Arrow, so I have no idea what the dimensions are, so this might not be possible. This is how the motor is mounted in a 3605 Red Arrow: As you can see, it already uses a short Cardan shaft to drive the bogie. Ray Ray and Sander, Based on the drawing above, yes, mechanically it looks easy to do. However, based on the two locomotives I have with SDS, there doesn't appear to be a way to fit the decoder in the Red Arrow. The SDS decoder is HUGE! In my new 39020, decoder board is oriented vertically, and runs from the front of the sand dome, to the very back of the boiler. It extends the full interior height of the boiler, and the MFX decoder itself it actually a daughter card plugged into a socket on the main board. The speaker is mounted in the tender out of necessity, but that does give it a larger chamber for resonance! Don Taylor
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Both 60212 and 60213 show yellow traffic lights in the database.
So normally this would indicate that 60213 was already delivered. Could be an error ... |
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Actually, the inner space of the "Roter Pfeil" is quite big. The photo shows my 3605 after installing an mfx decoder. The analog version, 3125, has a circuit board covering the area from the red wire in front to the flywheel on the motor, with a square hole for the interior light "tower".  Under the printed plate there are quite a lot of space, e.g. for a speaker. |
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On model 26001,
other than the obvious mobile vision equipment, the model seems to be the ICE-2 from set 36711.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by ozzman<br />Good to see a few Z scale items in that lot. I can work out what most of them are, but a "Hunt'sche Großbekohlungsanlag" is a total mystery to me! Can anyone translate, please? Hardly worth it...just one holiday car, which they make in Z scale every year. And some locomotive test stands, which might just be re-branded models from some other manufacturer. That's it. Sorry, but this is a really poor showing for Z. Come on, Marklin, there's so much out there that's waiting to be released in z-scale. Sorry for being grumpy, but Marklin's Z offerings have been getting ever slimmer lately. --Mike |
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Can I please ask what the "000775 Display Langer Heinrich DB" is? Is it another set of ore cars, or it a locomotive, or is it a complete train?
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OK thanks to Jos' link, I've answered my own question, it's a set of 12 ore cars.
BTW I was wondering why I couldn't find this in the Product Database (English page) - I searched for 000775 as per the above list, but discovered the item number is actually in the database as 00775. Just a wee 'gotcha' (got you!) for those searching.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by intruder<br />Actually, the inner space of the "Roter Pfeil" is quite big. The photo shows my 3605 after installing an mfx decoder. The analog version, 3125, has a circuit board covering the area from the red wire in front to the flywheel on the motor, with a square hole for the interior light "tower". Under the printed plate there are quite a lot of space, e.g. for a speaker. Svein, Yes, that is a bit bigger than I imagined, but it may have to be a bit bigger still, and the "tower" for the interior light will have to be removed. It seems either the main circuit board for SDS, or the frame of the Red Arrow will have to be altered. I'm not sure that would be done for a small run of the models, but who knows? Märklin had to spend a TON of money tooling the cars for the Kaiser Wilhelm II set, and four out of the six have yet to appear in any other form since. Don Taylor
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guess I need to order both christmas wagons now.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmrcnzjohn
<br />guess I need to order both christmas wagons now.
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So the MHI articles will be a separate release, and in a different catalogue?
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mike c
<br />I do not have more details than you about "Huntsche", but a direct translation of "Grossbekohlungsanlage" would be a large coal loading facility.
The description given for this item on the English version of the product database is ""Huntsche" Large Coaling Station." http://www.maerklin.com/...%2Fproduct_database.html At 300 euros it is expensive, but it looks to be quite impressive.
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I don't know about the HO version, but according to the M* website a lot of the Z version is made of cardstock. Not necessarily a bad thing - there seems to be lots of cardstock models coming out these days. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by kimballthurlow
<br />So the MHI articles will be a separate release, and in a different catalogue? Same catalogue (see link to German PDF in first post), but not in the original list (updated now). |
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The Heinrich cars will have different road numbers with the 12 Trix ones? |
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You can checkout Fall 2008 Marklin and Trix items on my website [:I]
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Thanks Mike, the brochure on the CS2 makes interesting reading.
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Hi Thomas,
Thanks.
I have just ordered the #37774 VT 04 (ex VT137) rail-car set in blue and grey.
I checked this forum for comments on similar items 37770 and 37773.
My wife likes the colour scheme - good feed-back for Märklin to target females!!
I am looking forward to getting this set, as it will be my first Märklin rail-car set. Although at over 400 Euros, it is more expensive than most locomotives.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Bigdaddynz<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by fred443
<br />Isn't the 060213 the new CS II? If so, we now know the price -- 699.99 Euro, nicht wahr?
Yup that's it! Rather expensive, given that the Viessmann Commander, on which the CS2 is supposedly based, is 520 euros [edit: correct price 552 euros] at the Lokshop. One would hope the street price, or the price for a CS2 from a broken up starter set would be cheaper. Interestingly enough, Mike has the CS2 for pre sale ordering at $US 670 - see http://www.euromodeltrains.comThis is way cheaper than the euro price at 700 euros for us here in NZ. 1 $NZ = .46 euros 1 $NZ = .66 USD
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