Hi all,

I've been trying to make an overview of all special weathered H0 models Märklin has made in small quantities. (So no weathered models that appeared in the regular catalogues/yearbooks) Looking through the Kolls Special Catalogue didn't result in finding all items listed below, so I guess it's not complete. I realize that my list is far from complete either, does anyone have additions?

For now I have:
no: description: number produced: extra info:
28973, Glasskasten with 2 cars, ÖBB, 314 pcs, Special for Austria, with snow in wooden box
3117, 232 TC, SNCF Steamer, ??? pcs, Special in 1986
34158 (T), Serie 56, CFL Tubize, Steamer, 750 pcs, Special for Belgium/Luxemburg, with glove
37057, Württ, Class K., blue/grey ??? pcs, Dekopakket
37114, Württ. Class C., green, ??? pcs, Dekopakket
37541, Serie 460 FS Steamer, 900 pcs, Special for Italy
37569, Ce 6/8, green croc, SBB, 5000 ? pcs, Weathered, 2003
37773, Fliegende Hamburger, 2006 (?) pcs, Messemodell 2006
37963, BR 96, era III, DB, 2003 pcs, Messemodell 2003
37978, Mikado, 2004 pcs, Messemodell 2004
37992, Big Boy, 2005 pcs, Messemodell 2005
39569, Ce 6/8, green croc, SBB, ??? pcs, Snowed, 2001
37032.100, BR 38, era II, DB, 700 pcs, Eurotrain, with showcase
37157.800, Serie 26 NMBS Steamer, 450 pcs, Special for Belgium
83416, BR 52, ÖBB, 300 pcs, 100 Year Import by Kauffert in Austria
45103, same as 45101, set Geislinger Steige (no.1), but weathered, ??? pcs, Dekopakket
45104, same as 45102, set Geislinger Steige (no.2), but weathered, ??? pcs, Dekopakket


I hope there's anyone who can provide me additional references. In that case I'll have to look for more great loco's to add to my collection.

Thanks in advance!



[EDIT] 18-3-2006: Made some small changes in description of TUBIZE loco [/EDIT]

[EDIT] 19-3-2006: Added two car sets (45103/45104) [/EDIT]

Thank you for taking the time to compile this list. It is much appreciated when someone else does all the legwork.
Stephen(USA)

Hi John, all,

I think my own list is far from complete, but I hope it's useful information as it is.
John, I'm looking forward to some more references and other information.
Of course, anyone else having an addition to the list is very welcome to post!
Have a nice weekend all!

Hi Mikko,

Both models are indeed weathered (snow). I'll look up more information on these loco's, if they don't appear in my catalogue collection, I'll add them to my list. Thanks!
By the way, there are 3 versions 3171 difference: heavier or lighter weathered.

Hi Dave,

No, I don't necessarily limit this to just loks. However, the items listed have to be really exclusive, so all items listed don't appear in the regular catalogues or yearbooks. The items you mention are indeed aged (and especially the 26730 looks great!) but both did appear in a catalogue, which is why I didn't list them. Finding these items is as simple as browsing through (old) catalogues.
So, if you know some cars(ets) that didn't appear in any catalogue (except for Koll's Spezial Katalog) you're very welcome to add them to the list!)

About weathering in general: yes, I think it's very nice it's getting more common with Märklin to do so. Unfortunately for people like us liking these weathered models, not all Märklinists like them. I guess it will never become common practice to buy all Märklin models weathered.

Personally I'm a era I fan (and collector), collecting these quite rare weathered models is just an extra field of interest.
I've got quite a few items listed already, but when I found out that the Koll's Spezial Katalog wasn't complete, that definately aroused my curiosity.

These two sets are very nice!! I have them, and they are all era I! They are weathered, so no need for question marks.

Hi Dave,

Yes indeed, these car sets are great! When looking for them I've found out I've got them myself too... (Once in a while I discover I've collected many more nice things then I would think) The questionmarks indicate the fact that I don't know the amount produced.

The 37172.001 definately fits in the list, thanks! I'll look up some more details about this Serie 27 lok and add it afterwards.
I've found another one in the mean time: 33191 Einheiz-Lokomotive 2004, BR 17

Hi all,

This is the list for now:

26575, Württemberger Zug um 1859 mit Lok Stauffen, like 26573, weathered, ??? pcs, Dekopakket
28832, Snowplow with loco like 28831, ÖBB, 230-390 (?) pcs, Special for Austria, with snow in wooden box
28973, Glasskasten with 2 cars, ÖBB, 314 pcs, Special for Austria, with snow in wooden box
3117, 232 TC, SNCF Steamer, ??? pcs, Special in 1986
33191, BR 17 Einheiz-lokomotive, ??? pcs, Special in 2004
34158 (T), Serie 56, CFL Tubize, Steamer, 750 pcs, Special for Belgium/Luxemburg, with glove
37057, Württ, Class K., blue/grey ??? pcs, Dekopakket
37114, Württ. Class C., green, ??? pcs, Dekopakket
37541, Serie 460 FS Steamer, 900 pcs, Special for Italy
37569, Ce 6/8, green croc, SBB, 5000 ? pcs, Weathered, 2003
37773, Fliegende Hamburger, 2006 (?) pcs, Messemodell 2006
37963, BR 96, era III, DB, 2003 pcs, Messemodell 2003
37978, Mikado, 2004 pcs, Messemodell 2004
37992, Big Boy, 2005 pcs, Messemodell 2005
39569, Ce 6/8, green croc, SBB, 370-650 (?) pcs, Snowed, 2001
37032.100, BR 38, era II, DB, 700 pcs, Eurotrain, with showcase
37157.800, Serie 26 NMBS Steamer, 450 pcs, Special for Belgium
37172.001, Serie 27 NMBS Condenser Steamer, 300 pcs, Special for Belgium
83342, BR 111, DB, wheatered with graffiti, ??? pcs, Special for Idee + Spiel
83416, BR 52, ÖBB, 300 pcs, 100 Year Import by Kauffert in Austria

45103, same as 45101, set Geislinger Steige (no.1), but weathered, ??? pcs, Dekopakket
45104, same as 45102, set Geislinger Steige (no.2), but weathered, ??? pcs, Dekopakket
46574, same as 46573, set in addition to 26575, but weathered, ??? pcs, Dekopakket

The questionmarks indicate missing information, I'd like to fill in these gaps, so if anyone knows anyting....

By the way, I'll check the "status" of 3113 and 3171 asap.


[EDIT] 2006-04-03 Made some minor changes [/EDIT]

Hi Sander,

The Geburtstagslok 37845?

Jeroen

Here's a very cool one: # 48103 made for Vedes. A MODERN weathered car.

Dave Pryor

To make all efforts by the forummembers usefull I've decided to add another category to the list:

Items derived from regular items but weathered (and in some cases changed running numbers)

26575, Württemberger Zug um 1859 mit Lok Stauffen, like 26573, weathered, ??? pcs, Dekopakket
28832, Snowplow with loco like 28831, ÖBB, 230-390 (?) pcs, Special for Austria, with snow in wooden box
28973, Glasskasten with 2 cars, ÖBB, 314 pcs, Special for Austria, with snow in wooden box
3117, 232 TC, SNCF Steamer, ??? pcs, Special in 1986
33191, BR 17 Einheiz-lokomotive, ??? pcs, Special in 2004
34158 (T), Serie 56, CFL Tubize, Steamer, 750 pcs, Special for Belgium/Luxemburg, with glove
37057, Württ, Class K., blue/grey ??? pcs, Dekopakket
37114, Württ. Class C., green, ??? pcs, Dekopakket
37541, Serie 460 FS Steamer, 900 pcs, Special for Italy
37569, Ce 6/8, green croc, SBB, 5000 ? pcs, Weathered, 2003
37773, Fliegende Hamburger, 2006 (?) pcs, Messemodell 2006
37963, BR 96, era III, DB, 2003 pcs, Messemodell 2003
37978, Mikado, 2004 pcs, Messemodell 2004
37992, Big Boy, 2005 pcs, Messemodell 2005
39569, Ce 6/8, green croc, SBB, 370-650 (?) pcs, Snowed, 2001
37032.100, BR 38, era II, DB, 700 pcs, Eurotrain, with showcase
37157.800, Serie 26 NMBS Steamer, 450 pcs, Special for Belgium
37172.001, Serie 27 NMBS Condenser Steamer, 300 pcs, Special for Belgium
83342, BR 111, DB, wheatered with graffiti, ??? pcs, Special for Idee + Spiel
83416, BR 52, ÖBB, 300 pcs, 100 Year Import by Kauffert in Austria

45103, same as 45101, set Geislinger Steige (no.1), but weathered, ??? pcs, Dekopakket
45104, same as 45102, set Geislinger Steige (no.2), but weathered, ??? pcs, Dekopakket
46574, same as 46573, set in addition to 26575, but weathered, ??? pcs, Dekopakket

Special weathered items not fitting the description above:
2848, Cement Grain, NMBS, two versions made, both weathered, one in a regular, quite large number, one in a very limited number (600 pcs) with changed running number, Special for Belgium.
37845, BR 50, DB, different running numbers from 50 1953 to 50 1956, about 2000 pcs made each.
48103, selbstentladewagen Fals, DB, weathered with extra print "Elbe-Kies", Special for Vedes & Idee + Spiel dealers.
84854, Three NMBS 2-axle tank cars, derived from DB EVA set, about 6000 pcs made.

If anyone has more additions to this list, please reply!

Thanks for the update.

Another one:
39820, the V270 One time series diesel loco from 2005. It has the blue paint scheme with imoTrans painted on the sides. The weathering is on the roof of the loco and it is black, or dark grey. Hope this helps you.

Hi Sebastian,

Thanks for the tip! I won't include it in the list though, as 39820 is an item that regularly appeared in the Märklin catalogue (only in 2005, of course). All items listed are special in the sense that no official Märklin prospects and booklets mention those items. Which is also the cause of my motivation to keep a list, as it is not easy to compose such a list by leafing through the broadly available catalogues and booklets.

I see the dealer have one 37978 for sale.

Can you tell me what value is the 37978 please?

@ Stephen: Sorry, I only saw your question now, but here's an answer: the 37978 is listed in Kolls for 400 Euros. On eBay however, it usually ends up at prices around 280 Euros.

@ Palle: Congratulations on your birthday, I guess... And yes, the list is not updated for years, so 1958 is not present in it. Enjoy the model!

Congratulations, Palle.

In the 2008 Koll's it's listed as "(350)" - the brackets indicate that only few units were sold and the price is therefore not really representative.

When quoting Koll's you should always indicate the year (Koll's prices were going down during the last years).

October when, Palle?

What happened to the 3171, Sander?

AFAIK the 3171 was also listed in the regular catalogue and therefore does not fit in the list according to the criteria I used. However, I may be incorrect, in that case it should be added. (But I'm currently not updating the list any longer)