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Offline Larry  
#1 Posted : 23 April 2008 20:24:23(UTC)
Larry

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I've told you how in 2008, MTH, US-Maryland maker of mostly high quality "O" gauge (now a few HO gauge), has broadened its Premier product line to manufacture an Orient Express locomotive and high quality coaches. (Photos of the coaches are in the new catalogue and they look fantastic.)

Big news to me since I'm into American "O" gauge scale is that the new 2008 catalog, released this week, has NOHABs, TRAXX ALP-46 (SBB CARGO, Ralion, Veolia) and an English steamer. Each Premier model includes operating characteristics and a full range of sounds including operating sounds.

MTH has clearly made a strategic move to go into European model railroads at least in "O". Since there are very few European models available in this gauge in the US, it should be interesting how this goes and if MTH becomes a global manufacturer of types and road names from across the world.

To see these models go to http://www.railking1gauge.com/catalog/current2.asp
and look under Premier electric and steam locomotives as well as Premier passenger cars.
Offline dntower85  
#2 Posted : 23 April 2008 23:25:14(UTC)
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yes I rank MTH's detail up there with marklins on there high end models, and they have the best smoke units out on the market, guaranteed to set off smoke alarms. But I could never have the space for an "O" gauge layout.
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Offline steventrain  
#3 Posted : 23 April 2008 23:30:34(UTC)
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Thanks for the link.

I can see British train Coronation class on

http://www.mth-railking....west=0&muun=princess

$1199 is quite high price.
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Offline Larry  
#4 Posted : 23 April 2008 23:33:37(UTC)
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Yes, O gauge does take space, however, much less space than larger gauge plus many people have memories of the O gauge Lionels but none have memories of European-based Lionel since it didn't exist. There are only so many American and Canadian steam prototypes and MTH has probably modeled every one. This really broadens their product line.
Offline Larry  
#5 Posted : 23 April 2008 23:36:24(UTC)
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Yes, the steam locomotives are always highly priced. The TRAXX ALP-46 (SBB CARGO, Ralion, Veolia) will retail for about $450, but that is in American USD!

Those using Euros have a significant discount!
Offline stenscience  
#6 Posted : 24 April 2008 00:49:28(UTC)
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Oh No! More Nohabs to collect. They look good and the price is not too steep considering the size. Maybe I should have an O gauge layout to go around my HO gauge, around my N gauge, around my TT gauge, around my Z gauge...
Offline p .g  
#7 Posted : 24 April 2008 05:30:25(UTC)
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thanks for info ive been saving for the lionel BIG BOY O SCALE ( $ 1,500 + [B)]US ) now it looks like ill be abel to work some thing out do to their cost ill be abel to use both i hope FAIR WELL FROM PAT N CECE
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Offline martinfung  
#8 Posted : 28 April 2008 23:43:20(UTC)
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Larry, just a curious question. Are you aware of 3rd Rail of Sunset? They sell hand made limited edition brass O-gauge engines. Very good details and running characteristic, and really is not that much more expensive than a die-cast model. I think MTH control can also control Lionel RS electronics too.

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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Larry
<br />Yes, the steam locomotives are always highly priced. The TRAXX ALP-46 (SBB CARGO, Ralion, Veolia) will retail for about $450, but that is in American USD!

Those using Euros have a significant discount!
Still beginner, no layout, random buying
O-gauge, 3R Scale US Steamers (avatar is not of my collection, but the models are nice)
Märklin HO anything :-)
Offline Larry  
#9 Posted : 29 April 2008 02:19:13(UTC)
Larry

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Martin - I have seen some ads from Sunset and did not know they were priced that way. I assume they mostly make US-based locomotives. Thanks, much.
Offline martinfung  
#10 Posted : 29 April 2008 14:13:45(UTC)
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Larry, they actually branch out to make some European models too (just found out about it):

http://www.3rdrail.com/euroscale.htm

But I am very happy with Märklin for European models and 3rd Rail for US models. 3rd Rail's production for each locomotive is 200 to 300. That includes all road numbers in that production run. So compare to MTH or Lionel, it's a lot more limited. But more importantly, much higher quality with excellent running characteristic. For example, the last one I bought from them, the late Allegheny. The total production was about 200. They released 12 road numbers (which will not be repeated in the future), that's only 17 in each road numbers, counting both 2-rail and 3-rail!! So accordingly, they are really not that much more expensive than an MTH Allegheny.

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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Larry
<br />Martin - I have seen some ads from Sunset and did not know they were priced that way. I assume they mostly make US-based locomotives. Thanks, much.
Still beginner, no layout, random buying
O-gauge, 3R Scale US Steamers (avatar is not of my collection, but the models are nice)
Märklin HO anything :-)
Offline Larry  
#11 Posted : 15 May 2008 03:39:25(UTC)
Larry

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Thanks, Martin, for the great information. I was not aware of their involvement in producing O scale foreign locomotives. Do you know if they come digitally-equipped compatible with Lionel or MTH digital?
Offline martinfung  
#12 Posted : 15 May 2008 14:19:00(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Larry
<br />Thanks, Martin, for the great information. I was not aware of their involvement in producing O scale foreign locomotives. Do you know if they come digitally-equipped compatible with Lionel or MTH digital?


Larry, they are Lionel TMCC. But I think with MTH DCS, you have some control of TMCC-equipped locomotives. I run TMCC and so I don't know any details.

I will also like to recommend www.justrains.com for 3rd Rail items. There are very few dealers giving discounts on 3rd Rail items. Currently they have a pretty decent price on the Flying Scotman. But more importantly, that model has already sold out if you try to order it directly from 3rd Rail.
Still beginner, no layout, random buying
O-gauge, 3R Scale US Steamers (avatar is not of my collection, but the models are nice)
Märklin HO anything :-)
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