Anyone has any idea how to make the Kittel (3425) run better under 6021 control?

Chan

Replace the special Delta decoder it has with a Lokpilot.

The Kittel's motor is already a DC one. It should run like silk.

Luis

OK! Guess I've just found some basic info about this lokpilot,the only problem is I can get a 60902 in 30 mins.
while I have to order from Europe a lokpilot.[V]

My only question remaining being - is there any particular reason I can't use a 60902 ?

Thanks again.

Chan

Thanks a lot Luis,
One thing I am not sure is about track-programming, how can we set the address of a lokpilot if there is no dip switchs, I am using just a 6021 and has no computer connection.

I've just got a 60901 for my DSB MY conversion, may be I can test the decoder with the kittel.

BTW, if I order the lokpilot from Lokshop, which part no. should I use ? I've found they have a series of lokpilot related stuff and I cannot read German. Should it be ESU51700 or ESU51701? or anything else?

Anybodies advise is most appreciated.
Thanks again.

Chan

Hi Sander,
Thanks , I'm just now browsing to read the lokpilot info, clear enough, even downloaded the english manual.
I'll order on of those v.2.0 next time when I order something from lokshop.

Thank you
Chan

You mean the 60922 - part of the mfx decoders.

Regards

Noel

No!

With the 60902-mini this decoder is meant (22x17x6mm, same size as function decoders #6096x). It is for example even factory installed in Märklin locos with lots of space like the #37536 BR120; although with 701.22B chip it has only the two direct light exits, but the others can be added separate. Here it is installed with NEM plug in one of my ROCO models, where space is a similar issue as with the Kittel:



Regards,
Lutz

It's finally its turn in the OT...

The original decoder is so tightly packed underneath the chassis..

That red wire was what i used to replace the original pickup shoe contact. The drive shaft goes under the delta brd w minimal clearance. And the brd is connected to the inside of the chassis through a 3 pin plug...

There's another pc brd containing all the LEDs and cab lights, and this brd is tightly covered by the seat,only surface moount components can survive...

A lokpilot2 is connected to this brd for test run purpose, at this stage, I haven't think of how to house the lp2 yet.

...and there's more complication - the front and back LEDs are connected to the motorput w s.m. resistors. Have to break this and connect them to the new decoder. and there's still the cab lights, possibly using F1/F2, worry about this later...
Nonetheless, here's the test run...


The LP2 doesn't do good here, even though I've trimmed the CVs accordingly, probably bcos the ground contact is fundamentally poor. There's no way I can fit the decoder at where the delta used to be. The LP2 is just too thick(6.5mm) to avoid the driveshaft. The UHL76500 is 5mm.
The next step is to try the VM5242 which is only 11.5x8.8x3.2mm. Have to place order soon.

Guess the kittel has to stay in the OT bed for X'mas..

Will keep you informed...

Eric

Thanks for your detailled report so far! I hope you'll manage to get it running better! I've got one too, which makes me extra interested for the results.

Sorry Adrian

It's still in pcs on my work bench. I just pick up Marklin again after a year of myserable life w/o tains

Will post asa I manage to get thoings going.

Eric

Thanks a lot for your input, Intruder.
I've tried a Lokpilot 2 and it didn't fit into the tiny spce where the original decoder is placed. A 60902 certainly can't. So are you fixing it in the coach ?
I've got a Viessman 5242 ready, not sure the current capacity will work.

I'll appriciate for pics showing how you mount the decoder.

Thanks again
Eric

Don't mean to push you Intruder, I'll appreciate some pics for reference, my Kittle is still in the OT waiting .

Thanks

Eric

Thank you so much Intruder. These pics are very helpful.
Will let you know about my progress.

Thank you
Eric