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Offline littledragon  
#1 Posted : 14 April 2007 04:04:54(UTC)
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were there any obvious non-dremel way to electrically seperate any of the three marklin track types for manual blocks control?

I'm asking out of curiousity of still not finding a control 80f unit for a price I could afford so I'm thinking of just sticking to analog and wire the sidings/etc for three seperate trains respectly for the time being

(if you have a better suggestion for subject line feel free to mention it)
Offline clapcott  
#2 Posted : 14 April 2007 04:59:23(UTC)
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Clarification please ?
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... any of the three marklin track types ....

do you mean M,K,C ?

or
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the three marklin track types for manual blocks control?

do you mean "circuit" , "contact" , other (reed)

I am trying to understand the link to your reference to C80F - The controller type should have little relevence to track planning. Electrical isolation for blocks/sidings would still be the same (maybe different if accessories are involed and you are dealing with a CS or ECoS)

personally I only use a Dremel (Proxxon) as a last resort prefering under track isolation (C track) or a snip with professional side-cutters (clean cut, no vibration) especially if track is already laid.



Peter
Offline littledragon  
#3 Posted : 14 April 2007 05:32:17(UTC)
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heh sorry..yeah I did meant M/K/C tracks

I meant circuit I think

re reference to C80F..well..if it had been digital I wouldn't have had to bother making seperate power sections for to use 2+ trains, thats what I meant there

"personally I only use a Dremel (Proxxon) as a last resort"
I had the same thought myself on that too, why bother cut up good tracks if there's a fair alternative? wink

"prefering under track isolation (C track)" hmm I haven't heard of that one?

(I'm a bit tired now so thats probably why my original question was a bit short..so if you got any further questions still I should be more happy to reply to them when I wake up tomorrow)
Offline hemau  
#4 Posted : 15 April 2007 12:25:38(UTC)
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with M-tracks you just put a thick piece of paper between the mid-rail connectors (on both sides ofcourse) of the section to be insulated, before connecting them.
For C-track there are red insulators (very tiny) from M*. Must be for sale at any M* dealer. You need 2 per insulation.
The paper isolation was easier, but thats how progress works.
With K-tracks I have no experience.
Henk
C and M track; CS1R and 2 MS
Offline clapcott  
#5 Posted : 15 April 2007 13:38:41(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by littledragon
"prefering under track isolation (C track)" hmm I haven't heard of that one?

Henks comment about the red condoms is one solution but is fiddley. rather than use the marklin bits you could use heatshrink - just do not replug too many time as it may rub through.
If you want to reuse track then this is probably the best option and read no further.

I simply flex the connectors back and forth a couple of times and they snap off. You only need to do the inside 2 plugs (centre studs) as it is good practice to maintain a common ground by keeping the rail circuit intact.

The exception is if you want a cheap contact track , in which case remove one outside connector from each end and snip the metal bridge (again at each end).
Peter
Offline hemau  
#6 Posted : 16 April 2007 01:13:07(UTC)
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it is ofcourse a very non-dremel way to insulate the tracks by just flexing the connectors until they break!biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
Sometimes, esp with M-tracks, this happens even unintentionally!
Indeed is is the most efficient way to separate tracks.
henk
C and M track; CS1R and 2 MS
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