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Offline steventrain  
#1 Posted : 25 February 2007 12:19:18(UTC)
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Pictures of Langer Heinrich Prototype.

http://www.nicospilt.com/duitsland_rheine.htm (3rd picture)

http://gallery62603.fotopic.net/p34325318.html


Any more pictures of Langer Heinrich Prototype would be welcome.Smile
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Offline orubias  
#2 Posted : 25 February 2007 13:00:08(UTC)
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Nice links for a Sunday morning, Steven.
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Offline Sander van Wijk  
#3 Posted : 25 February 2007 15:19:53(UTC)
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Here's another one: http://www.nicospilt.com/duitsland_041.htm (the new "Langer Heinrich"picture is next to the one Steven already found.)

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#4 Posted : 25 February 2007 15:25:46(UTC)
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Nice pictures guys !
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#5 Posted : 25 February 2007 15:27:19(UTC)
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Morning All,

Sander and Stephen - very cool links.

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Offline steventrain  
#7 Posted : 08 March 2007 10:52:22(UTC)
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Cool,Thanks for the site!.Smile
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#8 Posted : 08 March 2007 11:28:01(UTC)
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I assume from these pictures that not only BR44's were used for this train. Seems like 042's and 043's were used. How about BR50's?

I have 2 BR50's which would look really good in front of a set of these types of cars.
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#9 Posted : 08 March 2007 13:36:54(UTC)
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The BR42,43 and 44 was use for Langer Heinrich.

I am not sure about BR50.
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Offline H0  
#10 Posted : 08 March 2007 18:35:59(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />I assume from these pictures that not only BR44's were used for this train. Seems like 042's and 043's were used. How about BR50's?

I have 2 BR50's which would look really good in front of a set of these types of cars.

AFAIK BR 44 and BR 41 were regularly used for Langer Heinrich.
(Please note that BR 043/BR 044 are new numbers for BR 44 while BR 041/BR 042 are new numbers for BR 41.)

I heard that at least once they used a BR 23 loco for that train.

Cannot confirm they used BR 50, too, but...
...I expect they did.
At that time they used the best operational loco they could get just to have the train run.

BR 42 is totally different from BR 042, just as BR 52 is totally different from BR 052 (new number for BR 50).
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#11 Posted : 09 March 2007 10:07:38(UTC)
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Thanks for the info Thomas, much appreciated. If all else fails I have a BR23 and BR41 either of which could be used then. Other than that, just buy a BR44, or the complete Langer Heinrich train. biggrin This is the main 2007 new item that interests me.

What are the differences between BR50 and BR44, as they look very similar? Thanks in advance.
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#12 Posted : 09 March 2007 12:12:54(UTC)
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From Wikipedia:

The 2-10-0 arrangement was a very popular one in Germany. The first were built by the individual state railways from 1915 to 1918, and these later became the DRG BR 58. The DRG then produced a number of standard classes of 2-10-0s: the heavy 3-cylinder BR44 (1753 built), the two-cylinder version BR43 (35 built), and the lightweight BR50 (3164 built). During wartime, the BR44 and BR50 designs were simplified as ÜK (Übergangs Kriegslokomotiven, or interim war locomotives). By 1941, it was clear that even these were too complicated, expensive, time-consuming to build, and used too much of materials in short supply, so new Kriegslocomotive (war locomotive) designs were developed; the lightweight BR52 (6161 built) and the intermediate weight BR42 (844 built).

Postwar locomotives of these types, particularly the BR52, were spread all over Europe and were taken into service by the railways of many different countries. BR 50: in Belgium: class 25; in Denmark: class N. BR 52: in Austria: class 52; in Belgium: class 26; in Norway: class 63.
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Offline H0  
#13 Posted : 09 March 2007 13:06:54(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />What are the differences between BR50 and BR44, as they look very similar? Thanks in advance.

The three-cylinder BR 44 has a bigger boiler than the two-cylinder BR 50 which makes a difference of about 300 H.P.
The BR 44 also has a higher axle weight which makes a big difference in tractive weight, too.
This is much like BR 01.10 vs. BR 03: very similar, but bigger boiler and more cylinders.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#14 Posted : 09 March 2007 13:19:03(UTC)
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Thanks Thomas, you answered another question I had, namely 01 vs 03.
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#15 Posted : 10 March 2007 02:53:37(UTC)
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Thanks for all the nice photos, friends.
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#16 Posted : 10 March 2007 06:11:24(UTC)
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Very nice..Thanks
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Offline sebastian  
#17 Posted : 10 March 2007 12:59:53(UTC)
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Thanks Steven. These are very informative.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#18 Posted : 12 March 2007 08:34:04(UTC)
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Yes it's a BR50, and yes there are only 4 cars, but you get the idea.....

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Offline steventrain  
#19 Posted : 13 March 2007 19:04:19(UTC)
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Very cool,Bigdaddynz.
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