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Offline Larry  
#1 Posted : 28 February 2007 05:47:43(UTC)
Larry

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I have plans to add Bemo HOm Swiss lines going up to my Swiss Marklin level. Combining Marklin with Bemo narrow gauge seems to me to have great potential. Anyone been down this road or up this grade?
Offline plavnostruev  
#2 Posted : 28 February 2007 07:18:25(UTC)
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Sounds like an excellent idea. Bemo's got great stuff which will nicely complement terrific Swiss M* models. Go for it!

Mike
Offline Sander van Wijk  
#3 Posted : 28 February 2007 11:42:02(UTC)
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Hi Larry,

I know quite a few people combining Bemo and Märklin for exactly the same reasons. The results of that blend are definately interesting and both systems complement nicely with one another. I personally would go for it, and add some kind of Multiprotokol control center to it (Intellibox, ECoS) to control both systems through one device. (Bemo models are usually equipped with a connector to insert a DCC or Selectrix decoder)
Sander
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Offline RayF  
#4 Posted : 28 February 2007 12:13:11(UTC)
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Great plan!

I'de love to do it myself but got no room. Please post pictures of the project.

Ray
Ray
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Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
Offline bmcrae  
#5 Posted : 28 February 2007 20:47:43(UTC)
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5HorizonsRR was selling some of his BEMO items earlier (posted such on this site). Not sure if his Swiss layout was a combination of BEMO/Marklin. Not knowing BEMO at all, what is the differnce between HOm and HOe?
Offline Bart  
#6 Posted : 28 February 2007 21:34:01(UTC)
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Hey Larry,
Same thoughts - I've just started to buy some Bemo stuff to complement my SBB layout.

Still a few decisions to be made:
- which track (Bemo has Code 70 and Code 100 tracks)
- which type of s88 feedback for 2-track

Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Sander van Wijk
<br />...and add some kind of Multiprotokol control center to it (Intellibox, ECoS) to control both systems through one device. (Bemo models are usually equipped with a connector to insert a DCC or Selectrix decoder)

IMHO the choice of decoder would be free (e.g., a multiprotocol/Motorola or mfx Lokpilot). This is not necessarily related to a connector type.
*Bart
Offline Philip  
#7 Posted : 28 February 2007 21:41:32(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by bmcrae
Not knowing BEMO at all, what is the differnce between HOm and HOe?

The difference is the gauge, HOm represents metergauge witch is 12mm in 1:87 HO where as HOe represents approx 75cmgauge witch is 9mm in 1:87 HO.

Philip Smile
Philip.

Let's keep it simple.
MFDWPL
Offline Bart  
#8 Posted : 28 February 2007 21:42:44(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by bmcrae
<br />.... Not knowing BEMO at all, what is the differnce between HOm and HOe?

Both are 1:87
HOm is 12mm gauge (as is the Swiss 1m narrow gauge in 1:1)
HOe is 9mm gauge (reflecting 2ft 3in / 69cm gauge in 1:1)
HOn3 is 10.4mm gauge (to model 3ft / 91cm US narrow gauge)

edit: I'm sorry Philip, you were faster [:I]
*Bart
Offline laalves  
#9 Posted : 01 March 2007 01:04:37(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Larry
<br />I have plans to add Bemo HOm Swiss lines going up to my Swiss Marklin level. Combining Marklin with Bemo narrow gauge seems to me to have great potential. Anyone been down this road or up this grade?


Yes... I have also been eyeballing Bemo's superb models with the same objective.

Go for it and keep us posted!

Luís
Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#10 Posted : 01 March 2007 01:40:17(UTC)
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Hey Guys,
I can say the only complaint to my adding Bemo is from my wallet! It looks great and blends in wonderfully. The equipment is very nice. I must warn: Bemo is not by any means plug and play like Marklin. They operate best on permanant layouts with scale sized rail (about code 70) laid out properly. Also, being DC, the electronics can be trickier. I actually prefer building with Bemo as I like the projects but I wanted to warn it isn't something to slide under the christmas tree!


As for the Hom vs. HOe debate, for practical purposes you want HOm. Assuming you are running swiss, everything is available in HOm but not HOe and it looks more to scale near regular HO track. The only advantage I see in HOe is you can run on N scale track which saves $ (but looks bad)

If I ever get some time pix will follow!
SBB Era 2-5
Offline Hemmerich  
#11 Posted : 01 March 2007 02:19:30(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Larry
<br />I have plans to add Bemo HOm Swiss lines going up to my Swiss Marklin level. Combining Marklin with Bemo narrow gauge seems to me to have great potential. Anyone been down this road or up this grade?

Yes Larry - me (too). wink

I've even composed myself a section of "4-rail track", consisting of several Tillig H0/HOm and Erbert Puko items to allow stopping of both the Glacier Express and a SBB IC at the same platform on my layout.

And agreed - Bemo products are the same "pain" for your wallet as those from Märklin, Brawa, etc.
Offline Bart  
#12 Posted : 01 March 2007 02:45:06(UTC)
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Lutz,
I have been planning to use the Tillig combo HO/HOm track with catenary.
Don't you get into trouble with the pickup shoe bridging the inner rail and the Pukos?
Especially in curves or at the turnout where the 2 systems are merged?

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Edited by moderator 11 January 2011 15:05:43(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

*Bart
Offline Larry  
#13 Posted : 01 March 2007 05:11:05(UTC)
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Thanks much for pointing out the pluses and minuses of going with Bemo along with the advice.

My sense is that it goes extremely well with Marklin Swiss. It has much potential and like Marklin, the cost of starter sets are not cheap but advantageous. However, as pointed out above it is another world and not a gift to place under the Christmas tree for anyone. I went from using effortless C track to a starter set that required inserting rails into individual ties; hardly for the faint of heart. While you can use Atlas rail connectors even deciding on what kind of HOm track becomes a project unto itself.

What really interests me is the actual cog set that comes with the one starter set and the loks that have the center gear to grab onto the cog rail. For those interested there is an extremely good "all things Bemo" website on Yahoo. Like your site, they have great reference materials and friendly advice.

I did buy the blue German Krock (part of the 75 year Glacier Express celebration: http://www.bemo-modellba...e/produkterhb/index.htm. I like it a lot but the blue/cream salon coaches (very Rheingold-ish), which are really nice, run about $100 each so I have a short consist of 2 cars!

If you are interested in Swiss narrow gauge I think the Bemo catalogue is spectacular; it is very informative, lavishly colored, shows and discusses the routes of all the Swiss narrow gauge companies. You can use it to start planning an Alpine narrow gauge vacation like I hope to do! Thanks again.
Offline bmcrae  
#14 Posted : 01 March 2007 08:03:59(UTC)
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Thanks to all for the replies! BEMO looks like another great option. I've just browsed their HOm items online and there is a fair bit to choose from! [:p]

As I suspected, the deeper I get into this hobby the better the odds it will rip a hole in my wallet the size of Jupiter. [:I]
Offline Hemmerich  
#15 Posted : 01 March 2007 11:38:48(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bart
Don't you get into trouble with the pickup shoe bridging the inner rail and the Pukos?

Hi Bart,

not really. Since the two track systems are powered anyways by two different sources, I supply always only the one which is needed for a particular train. For H0/H0e tracks, you could even use the "inner" H0e rail for the H0 pickup shoes. biggrin

Offline metpo  
#16 Posted : 01 March 2007 13:51:13(UTC)
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I have to say that I have been also thinking about putting later on on my lay out some BEMO stuff... must be great..Vfrom teh big station there will be then also some trainline going to the high mountains... good for the little "Preiser tourists "who wanna see the mountains closer!
Offline hmsfix  
#17 Posted : 01 March 2007 15:30:07(UTC)
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Hi,

I am presently planning a very (!) short H0e industrial line on my H0 layout, with coal and log cars entering and leaving the gallery tunnel of a coal mine. I have seen some nice Roco stuff, at very reasonable prices.

What I am still looking for is some kind of small hand driven H0e turntable (diameter 5 cm or so) for the crossing of the gallery track and the coal loader track.

Hans Martin
Offline DamonKelly  
#18 Posted : 01 March 2007 15:44:35(UTC)
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Hans Martin,

Peco make a "Wagon Turntable" PN SL-427 in their "00-9 STREAMLINE" products -- I assume it is 9mm i.e. HOe
See here

I don't know what the quality is like, though...

I myself want to get some of Peco's HOe aka "00-9 STREAMLINE" track for my Ffestiniog narrow gauge "Prince" I recently acquired.

Cheers,
Damon
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