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jocoyn		#51 Posted : 30 January 2007 15:39:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 363 Location: , SC		I believe it is slybay. I have seen them with a few models on ebay.de. They have a US website but my email from about a month ago has still not been answered. I have talked with one person with some of their models and I understand they are nice people, know their trains , were willing to make things right, but these did not fully have the kinks worked out and did not run particularly well.
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ulf999		#52 Posted : 30 January 2007 18:40:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,908 Location: Stockholm, Sweden		Imagine a double (US) starterset with an ALCO RS2-switcher + a tankcar, a boxcar, and a flatcar + an F7 with 3 Pullman cars (all in NYC two tone gray) The engines (and Pullmans) would off course also be available in UP, Santa Fe and Canadian livery as 'loose' items. [:p][:p][:p] It would seriously hurt my wallet [}:)]
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pserup		#53 Posted : 30 January 2007 18:57:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 897 Location: Ramløse, Denmark		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by ulf999 <br />Imagine a double (US) starterset with an ALCO RS2-switcher + a tankcar, a boxcar, and a flatcar + an F7 with 3 Pullman cars (all in NYC two tone gray) The engines (and Pullmans) would off course also be available in UP, Santa Fe and Canadian livery as 'loose' items. [:p][:p][:p] It would seriously hurt my wallet [}:)] Mine too! Especially if they chose to include a CS [xx(]
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john black		#54 Posted : 31 January 2007 09:36:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by ulf999 <br />Imagine a double (US) starterset with an ALCO RS2-switcher + a tank car, a box car, and a flat car + an F7 with 3 Pullman cars (all in NYC two tone gray). The engines (and Pullmans) would of course also be available in UP, Santa Fe and Canadian livery as 'loose' items [:p][:p][:p] Tenthousing points from my side, Ulf ... [:p][:p][:p] You should be M's CEO BTW, that guy from MARKLIN USA who signed up some time ago. He <u>never</u> posts, but when arriving here he clearly stated his company and rank. For what good he did so, one might ask ... [:o)]
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kurtjr		#55 Posted : 06 February 2007 14:35:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2007(UTC) Posts: 55		I'm new to the forum, but have been exposed to Maerklin for over 30 yrs since my dad had a nice RSM 800 from his first set running in the playroom for years. I simply love the stuff ;-) Currently building a huge collection of North American Locos, SNCF and Swiss ones to be used on a layout i am working on and not getting very far... Here is an interesting question some of you overseas can help me with: Why do US manufacturers not produce AC models for Märklin? Märklin is by far the most well known manufacturer in the world and you would think that they would produce models that would be compatible, or are US manufacturers just not interested in the European market? There is a big US following here. In Europe, for example, HAG, Roco, Fleischmann, Lima all produce AC versions of their models even though they predominently sell DC models and tracks. It seems to be working for them.
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metpo		#56 Posted : 06 February 2007 14:41:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 303 Location: ,		The RBDE 560 SBB "colibri" should have been produced already a long time ago by Marklin...but why do not they have it yet?? Also some more swiss locs should be done.. I think Marklin should also produce the Transsiberian Railroad...one of the most interesting trains to travel with.... Da Da!! I also think they should produce the Berlin subway and s trains... And off course also Moscow subway!!!
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jonquinn		#57 Posted : 06 February 2007 15:02:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		3 rail HO is very small in the USA compared to DC (DCC). The older stuff (pre-1990's or so) was basically throwaway - Athearn, TYCO, old Bachmann, AHM, Life Like, etc. Serious modelers back then bought brass or rebuilt their trains to get them to run right. And they might have also spent a lot of time and money adding on super detail parts. now the quality of stuff like the new bachmann, athearn genesis, and proto (now walthers) is pretty good, and there is top line like Broadway limited and others. but my guess is everything is still being built for efficiency and cost control so the companies can make a little profit, so other than paint jobs they keep variations (2 rail/3 rail) to a minimum. They probably wouldn't cover their costs in the USA. I would make a guess that 3 rail HO is probably less than 5% of the HO MRR market here in the USA. I'd be amazed if its much higher than that. Maybe a survey has been done by one of the industry trade magazines? I have no idea what the split would be in europe between 3 rail and 2 railers. I would still have a modern USA diesel-electric like an SD70AC or a GE AC6600ACe with a metal body made by Marklin/Trix. But the Tower55 and BLI locos are very nice looking too, even if they have plastic bodies. Its just that there isn't much provision under the trucks of at least the BLI diesels to install a slider.
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steventrain		#58 Posted : 06 February 2007 19:16:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		Welcome to the forum,Kurt.
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kurtjr		#59 Posted : 07 February 2007 00:24:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2007(UTC) Posts: 55		thanks Jon. That would make sense especially when you think how cheap it is to produce good plastic toys in China (eg. Lilliput), margins for manufacturers in the US must be small and AC 3rail is the least of their worries. I would certainly embrace a newer or more recent north american model loco from Maerklin...they should do at least one new model per year for North America with different liveries. But i certainly do like the UP Alco PA1 in double traction, its got some serious pulling power and it looks mean! Another great Märklin product!
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alonso231gery		#60 Posted : 07 February 2007 00:50:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,959 Location: Hellas (Athens)		I saw The GG1 with black livery(very nice one[^]).
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john black		#61 Posted : 07 February 2007 14:40:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery <br />I saw The GG1 with black livery (very nice one [^]) Good for you. And where's that picture ... ?
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steventrain		#62 Posted : 07 February 2007 18:37:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		Hi Alonso, There is five different black livery,Can you tell me which one is it? http://www.spikesys.com/GG1/paint.html
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PierreGILLARD		#63 Posted : 07 February 2007 19:11:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by ulf999 <br />Well written Jeff. Many DC manufacturers do offer their locos in unlettered versions. M* should be able to do the same I agree and I have already written that several times in the past on this forum. Märklin should also release more railroad liveries for each locomotive than one or less every year. By the way and as an interim solution (I hope so !), I am now thinking to buy an Athearn AC4400CW together with a dummy. I would then modify the dummy to accept the slider to feed the powered locomotive and add details on both engines. But I still have three other locomotive projects to complete as well (a triple CP unit with FA/FB/F7B engines, a VIA Rail Canada FP9 and a VIA Rail Canada F40PH) ... and not enough time ! Pierre.
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alonso231gery		#64 Posted : 07 February 2007 20:25:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,959 Location: Hellas (Athens)		http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=170985 http://www.railpictures.net/showphotos.php Search for GG1 John, i am sure you will find many liveries(i did not find the one that you like the most(the red one)). A very nice site Pierre, i believe M must study it.
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john black		#65 Posted : 07 February 2007 23:28:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:<br />There is five different black livery What type of black do you prefer - medium black? Or just a tad lighter, perhaps - for a more decent appearance? Or is it the real dark one - like a black hole? Sorry, gentlemen - but there's no use discussing black color. Since black is black ... [xx(] john black
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intruder		#66 Posted : 07 February 2007 23:38:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Black is not black, John Black! Tecnically speaking, black is the total absence of light, the colors are still there, but not visible, wich rarely happens here on earth. Back is ultra dark brown, blue, red or what ever. If you look in a car painter's selection of colors, black doesn't excist, neither does white. If you start sanding a black color, the dust is normally dark brown or blue. This is just to quarrel, nothing else. [:o)]
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john black		#67 Posted : 07 February 2007 23:38:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery <br />Search for GG1 John, i am sure you will find many liveries What do ya say ... [:o)] (I, too, know those sites - thank you, Sir) Had posted the above hoping you'd surprise us with a nice picture. Not just talk about ...
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alonso231gery		#68 Posted : 07 February 2007 23:44:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,959 Location: Hellas (Athens)		I sense a very relaxing and cosy atmosphere here.
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steventrain		#69 Posted : 07 February 2007 23:44:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		Nice picture,Alonso.
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john black		#70 Posted : 07 February 2007 23:48:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder <br />Black is not black, John Black! ... black is the total absence of light, the colors are still there, but not visible, wich rarely happens here on earth. Black is just black, Svein Saeboe! But with the other one you are right - that's what I'd meant with the Black Hole ... Now I'm gonna search for such where I can dump all that broken M stuff from the future in the future [:o)]
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john black		#71 Posted : 07 February 2007 23:49:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery <br />I sense a very relaxing and cosy atmosphere here As always ...
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intruder		#72 Posted : 08 February 2007 00:55:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		You will not need a black hole, John, the NoHABs will last forever. Back to topic: I would like Märklin to make a Norwegian big steamer called "Dovregubben", NSB Type 49, numbers 463 to 465 and 470 to 473. Wheel arrangement 1'D2'-2'2', max. speed 90 km/h, driving wheel diameter 153 cm. http://www.jernbane.net/norge/damp/tp49/49a463_01.jpg
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john black		#73 Posted : 08 February 2007 01:06:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Her firebox resembles the one in the 18.4 (S3/6), Svein. BTW, I didn't mean the NoHABs - they're like a rock [^] There're others, nowadays ...
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jonquinn		#74 Posted : 08 February 2007 01:39:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		the black GG-1 (unless it is the penn central GG-1 and then I'm not sure but probably plain black) is actually brunswick green (PRR "green") which really looks more black than green, was supposedly formulated by pouring a couple of gallons of green (less than 5 gal) into a 55 gal drum of black paint.
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john black		#75 Posted : 08 February 2007 11:03:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		You're right with that Brunswick "Green". Also, conditions of light tend to deceive the human eye. Just have a look at this one - though she's definitely black she seems to be dark blue ...
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PierreGILLARD		#76 Posted : 08 February 2007 15:33:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		You always have to be carefull when interpreting colors from a photo especially if it is an electronic picture and more especially if it is a scan from an old photo. Usually, people do not correct colors of their electronic pictures ("Apple M" function on Photoshop !) Pierre.
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john black		#77 Posted : 08 February 2007 16:25:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Ah well ... this is great information - many thanks, Pierre !
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HueyCE		#78 Posted : 09 February 2007 02:03:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		Welcome to the forum Kurt. Ira
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PierreGILLARD		#79 Posted : 09 February 2007 04:54:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Another possible North American "low cost design" for Märklin : So, added to the multiple declinaison possibilities of the Mikado, GG-1 and PA1, plus the NJ Transit DB Class 101 derivative (as already discussed here), there is still the possibility for Märklin to offer a much wider range of American locomotives with little efforts and investments. Pierre. More information about the Northlander pictured above.
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jonquinn		#80 Posted : 09 February 2007 05:25:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		maybe they can offer a new northlander with the improved tooling? I've got a few new 2-rail locos added to the list for conversion to 3-rail (digital). I finally was able to get a Lionel HO UP Veranda turbine, and also got a Spectrum 2-4-0 Ma&Pa on the way (at least that one was cheap). I will have to put a decoder in the 2-4-0 so I might as well use something like a ESU loksound. Next on the list I owuld liek to get a Lionel 3985 Challenger or a PRR K4. I was thinking of a Bowser K4 kit. It has a metal boiler and frame. Some of the small part casting are a little rough though. It would be either that or a BLI K4 with the cast pilot. The UP Challenger 3985 is the one that still runs occasionally on excursions.
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john black		#81 Posted : 09 February 2007 11:39:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jonquinn <br />The UP Challenger 3985 is the one that still runs occasionally on excursions Giving new life to the old lady indeed was a great move by UP On the other hand, that's why we'll never see a BigBoy running, again ...
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kurtjr		#82 Posted : 13 February 2007 21:20:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2007(UTC) Posts: 55		Just love that Northlander...In that pic only the quality Swiss built wagons seemed to have survived the Canadian winter and made it back to Europe ;-) Been trying to find myself the Märklin Northlander 1 to add to the Northlander 2 i picked up but those prices are overkill! Oddly, Railtop will be producing that version again in AC Digital! Will go have a look once it hits the local dealer. And Roco are producing the original RAM TEE as well! What a great story the repatriation of those rail cars back to Europe. There is a nice dvd about the trip from a german provider.
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steventrain		#83 Posted : 13 February 2007 21:56:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		Very nice Northlander.
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jerdenberg		#84 Posted : 13 February 2007 22:27:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,025 Location: Den Helder, Noord-Holland		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jonquinn <br />The UP Challenger 3985 is the one that still runs occasionally on excursions Giving new life to the old lady indeed was a great move by UP On the other hand, that's why we'll never see a BigBoy running, again ... Hi John, According to Steve Lee of the UP steam program there are numerous other problems for a hypothetical Return of the Big Boy: there are very few places left where it can be turned around, but more importantly, it is simply too heavy for 99% of today's UP track. He even said in one of the BB videos that for these reasons UP would probably decline an offer to operate a BB restored to full working order by a third party.[:(] Jeroen
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john black		#85 Posted : 13 February 2007 22:35:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Thanks, Jeroen. But at least <u>we</u> have our BBs running (you even gotta fleet) ... [:p]
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jonquinn		#86 Posted : 14 February 2007 05:12:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		the various museums need to get these Big boys out of the elements and under a roof so the can be viewed centuries from now. these things really out to be proclaimed national treasures if they aren't already.
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john black		#87 Posted : 14 February 2007 14:32:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		True. Preserving those beauties making more sense than funny stones from some desert ...
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PierreGILLARD		#88 Posted : 14 February 2007 17:21:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br />True. Preserving those beauties making more sense than funny stones from some desert ... Here is a picture of BB # 4018 preserved but not in good state in Dallas Age of Steam Museum. ... And another here ! Pierre.
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john black		#89 Posted : 14 February 2007 17:34:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Yep, Pierre - I know her. That's the trouble - one clearly can see what UV-rays have done to her paint, already [xx(]. She, too, is in urgent need of a shed ...
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PierreGILLARD		#90 Posted : 05 May 2007 19:46:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Thanks for all very interesting comments posted in this topic. In the meantime, I have decided to develop a dual system layout with both DCC and Märklin. So, there is no more restriction in buying American locomotives ... [:p] I already have one each Proto 2000 FA1 and FB1 in Canadian Pacific livery, which were first intented to be converted to AC three rail. A Proto 2000 limited edition VIA Rail Canada RS-10 is currently waiting for me at my local hobby shop. And the next on my wish list is, of course, an AC4400CW. I have selected a Kato model. It looks very nice and its price remains very attractive (about US$ 150.00). A SD90MAC of CP as well would be a nice complement of the AC4400CW for a multiple-unit train as it can be seen here. In order to start correctly in the DCC world, I would like to buy a Digitrax Super Empire Builder Starter Set. That's it ! Pierre.
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alonso231gery		#91 Posted : 05 May 2007 20:12:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,959 Location: Hellas (Athens)		Nice loco Pierre,is it made of plastic or metal?
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PierreGILLARD		#92 Posted : 05 May 2007 22:21:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery <br />Nice loco Pierre,is it made of plastic or metal? Plastic, I think, as most American models. Pierre.
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jeehring		#93 Posted : 05 May 2007 22:50:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by PierreGILLARD <br />Another possible North American "low cost design" for Märklin : So, added to the multiple declinaison possibilities of the Mikado, GG-1 and PA1, plus the NJ Transit DB Class 101 derivative (as already discussed here), there is still the possibility for Märklin to offer a much wider range of American locomotives with little efforts and investments. Pierre. More information about the Northlander pictured above. And what about the American AMTRACK " Turboliner" and the French " RTG "? Only the front face is different for the latest TL but not for the five or six made by "ANF". I may assure you, there is a great demand in France for the "RTG" model as the last model is purely a 30 years old plastic model by Jouef - a cheap toy ( they have also made an Amtrack "Turboliner" model).
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jeehring		#94 Posted : 05 May 2007 23:07:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		The first six Amtrack "Turboliner" were identical to RTG (made by ANF) http://www.northeast.rai...net/images/tr_amtk67.jpg While the following TL came from RHOR Industries (under license) with different front face: http://www.northeast.rai...n.net/images/amtk154.jpg So Marklin could start with " ANF" version for both countries , different color scheme. And end the line with the "Rohr" version. AMTRACK rolling stock models are very popular, I think. Here are the french "RTG" http://www.turbotrains-r...ent/VENISSIEUX1406-3.jpg
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ulf999		#95 Posted : 06 May 2007 00:06:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,908 Location: Stockholm, Sweden		hmmm, that Digitrax system looks nice. I'm also on my way into the 'dual-land' (Dcc + Motorola).
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PierreGILLARD		#96 Posted : 06 May 2007 06:46:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring <br />The first six Amtrack "Turboliner" were identical to RTG (made by ANF) http://www.northeast.rai...net/images/tr_amtk67.jpg While the following TL came from RHOR Industries (under license) with different front face: http://www.northeast.rai...n.net/images/amtk154.jpg So Marklin could start with " ANF" version for both countries , different color scheme. And end the line with the "Rohr" version. AMTRACK rolling stock models are very popular, I think. Here are the french "RTG" http://www.turbotrains-r...ent/VENISSIEUX1406-3.jpg Merci Roland. Very interesting pictures. You may find further information about turbine powered trains in this thread. By the way, Rapido Trains is now producing the Sikorsky Turbo Train. Pierre.
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PierreGILLARD		#97 Posted : 06 May 2007 06:47:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by ulf999 <br />hmmm, that Digitrax system looks nice. I'm also on my way into the 'dual-land' (Dcc + Motorola). Go for it ! [}:)] Pierre.
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jeehring		#98 Posted : 06 May 2007 17:35:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by PierreGILLARD <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring <br />The first six Amtrack "Turboliner" were identical to RTG (made by ANF) http://www.northeast.rai...net/images/tr_amtk67.jpg While the following TL came from RHOR Industries (under license) with different front face: http://www.northeast.rai...n.net/images/amtk154.jpg So Marklin could start with " ANF" version for both countries , different color scheme. And end the line with the "Rohr" version. AMTRACK rolling stock models are very popular, I think. Here are the french "RTG" http://www.turbotrains-r...ent/VENISSIEUX1406-3.jpg Merci Roland. Very interesting pictures. You may find further information about turbine powered trains in this thread. By the way, Rapido Trains is now producing the Sikorsky Turbo Train. Pierre. Thank you Pierre ! On these topics I've found this : http://lestrainsjouef.fr...r/zoom/pages/jf8998.html This is all plastic model . Including the underframe which is in plastic too! Today there is a demand for a " state of art" model Don't you think an AMTRACK version could be an original idea too, may be the first from both that should be done...? french RTG have been running during a long time on many lines( EAST-North of france also on the line Bordeaux-Lyon). About 30 years service. Some RTG are still in operation in...Iran !( last RTG's in operation in France have been recently sold - second hand - to complete the Iranian rolling stock - also to be cannabalized for maintenance.)
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PierreGILLARD		#99 Posted : 06 May 2007 19:47:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:(...) Don't you think an AMTRAK version could be an original idea too, may be the first from both that should be done...? (...) Anything new will be appreciated ! Pierre.
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ulf999		#100 Posted : 06 May 2007 22:29:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,908 Location: Stockholm, Sweden		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by PierreGILLARD <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by ulf999 <br />hmmm, that Digitrax system looks nice. I'm also on my way into the 'dual-land' (Dcc + Motorola). Go for it ! [}:)] Pierre. [}:)]
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