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Davy		#1 Posted : 02 February 2007 00:56:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		From Stummi modeltrain forum. http://stummi.foren-city...-messebericht.html#91157 Translation. A Marklin employer told this person that the update for the CS will come in may. And that the Marklin systeems then shall be open for other companies. Marklin will not made software for the CS other companies must do this for Marklin. The Marklin employers said then that windigipet is very good. The trix central station will not be ready for 2008 and the mfx switch decoder will be ready in 2008.
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HueyCE		#2 Posted : 02 February 2007 03:03:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		Thanks for the link Davy. So Märklin is not going to provide any computer control software. I wonder if this means that Windigipet is going to be issued in a Märklinized version. I wonder what ESU is going to say about mfx standards being made public. Ira
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stephenbb		#3 Posted : 02 February 2007 04:00:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		I like my 6021. If only I could find a 6036.
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clapcott		#4 Posted : 02 February 2007 07:44:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,448 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by HueyCE So Märklin is not going to provide any computer control software. I wonder if this means that Windigipet is going to be issued in a Märklinized version. Ira I really do not care if Marklin provides software or not. They should stick to there core business of making trains and facilitating (providing the tools) of their control. I do appreciate that they would do well to partner with a software provider. HOWEVER the real requirement is for them to pubish the interface specifications and commandset
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Bigdaddynz		#5 Posted : 02 February 2007 11:21:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,775 Location: New Zealand		Well put Peter. There are already several good software packages, so if they can be updated to work with the CS, then that's the way M should go. I think M's current software is just a rebadged Windigital, so it seems that M has already adopted this philosophy. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by HueyCE <br />I wonder what ESU is going to say about mfx standards being made public. Ira As ESU don't have any rights to the mfx protocol (AFAIK) I would guess that no one would really care about what ESU would think. That's the way the cookie crumples as they say!!
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kgsjoqvist		#6 Posted : 02 February 2007 11:24:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 754 Location: Täby		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by stephenbb <br />I like my 6021. If only I could find a 6036. You can upgrade it with Uhlenbrock LocoNet adapter and a Daisy (or a wireless IRIS) for less money.
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Weltenbummler		#7 Posted : 02 February 2007 13:37:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 459 Location: Berlin (D)		According to the news coming from another forum in Germany, Davy forgot to mention that the update for the CS will not be a software update but a hardware one. This means if you wanna update your CS you will have to bring it to your dealer who will send it to Märklin or you have to do send it on your own.
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Davy		#8 Posted : 02 February 2007 16:15:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Thomas Duengefeld <br />According to the news coming from another forum in Germany, Davy forgot to mention that the update for the CS will not be a software update but a hardware one. This means if you wanna update your CS you will have to bring it to your dealer who will send it to Märklin or you have to do send it on your own. Nothing new for me. I know already for more then a year that my CS has to go on a trip to be updated. This is not really news. And that Marklin is going back to its core bussiness I find this very good.
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Bigdaddynz		#9 Posted : 03 February 2007 10:14:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,775 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Davy I know already for more then a year that my CS has to go on a trip to be updated. This is not really news. It is news for me though. For those of us at the ends of the earth, sending your CS back to Goppingen is going to be a pain, let alone expensive. Surely can't authorised dealers be trusted with performing the upgrade?
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nevw		#10 Posted : 03 February 2007 12:21:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		There is about 3 threads running on this topic. Have a look here, https://www.marklin-user...ault.aspx?g=posts&t=5149 there are a number of sererios. IF we have to post our CS to M we aill be without for about 3-4 months Unless the finger is pulled out. There is a suggestion that MAYBE the local dealer will get numbers and when the Modified CS arrives you go in and Swap.. I can see the pigs flying past now. In time we will know what will occur and also the COST.[V][:(!] Nev
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Bigdaddynz		#11 Posted : 03 February 2007 12:30:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,775 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw <br />I can see the pigs flying past now. There goes one now..... Thanks Nev, for these comments. We will have to wait and see, as you say.
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steventrain		#12 Posted : 03 February 2007 13:09:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Davy <br />Fro. The mfx switch decoder will be ready in 2008. You mean the 60172? Thats not so good![xx(]
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john black		#13 Posted : 03 February 2007 13:18:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Wow - never thought SYSTEMS would be such a SLOW story [|)][|)][|)] Just glad I'm not in a hurry for a change ...
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DamonKelly		#14 Posted : 03 February 2007 15:42:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/03/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,423 Location: Brisbane, QLD		Good to see that Märklin are going to publish the mfx/systems interface (I assume that is the intention). Like IBM, let the other companies provide the accessories and add-ons! Märklin should concentrate on locos and "overall" digital design.
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pserup		#15 Posted : 03 February 2007 15:59:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 897 Location: Ramløse, Denmark		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Davy I know already for more then a year that my CS has to go on a trip to be updated. This is not really news. It is news for me though. For those of us at the ends of the earth, sending your CS back to Goppingen is going to be a pain, let alone expensive. Surely can't authorised dealers be trusted with performing the upgrade? News to me too! If M wants to continue to see my money they'd better 1) swap my old CS with a new updated one, and 2) make sure my loko list can be transferred to the new unit! If not, then [xx(][xx(][xx(]
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Hemmerich		#16 Posted : 05 February 2007 18:19:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		I think it's neccessary to clarify a few things here (again): A CS S/W update will be made available in Q2/2007, which will contain as well the long awaited FREE 6021- and s88 connection (it will be simply plugged into one of the two auxilary ports of the CS; thus no need for a mfx booster or an additional 6021 box which would have to be connected to a terminal (see also Systems Architecture diagram). The update (rather an upgrade) will imply: - opening of the Ethernet port - download of the update SW - optional (and free) installation of the plug-in card All will be described, such that (FIRST PRIORITY) dealers can update their demo units and that any customer with the corresponding desire and knowledge can update their CS. Otherwise either your favorite authorized Märklin dealer or service will do it for you. All further details will come then (so just be patient with any detailed questions).
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pa-pauls		#17 Posted : 05 February 2007 18:54:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Hello Many rumours about the CS upgrade these days [xx(] But as always I do hope Herrn Hemmerich is correct [:p] And if so I'd might say that this calmed me down quit a bit
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Hemmerich		#18 Posted : 05 February 2007 22:03:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pa-pauls But as always I do hope Herrn Hemmerich is correct [:p] My information is based upon direct communication with Märklin's R&D manager; so I'm not worried about any rumors!
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pa-pauls		#19 Posted : 05 February 2007 22:32:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Hello again That is nice to hear Herrn Hemmerich, really nice
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clapcott		#20 Posted : 05 February 2007 22:36:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,448 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Its a long way from R&D to the delivery of a Final Product/Service. For one there are the marketing filters of product positoning and the bias (+ or -) they impose on the cog(quality) & roi(margin). Then there is the question of actual ability, directly or through channels, to effectively deliver. (and yes ... the cost either to the business bottm line or the consumer by way of postage/product unavailability) I am still more worried about the lack of offical publication of any Systems information updates or a medium to long term roadmap. The so-called central location for Systems information, http://www.maerklin.de/systems/, has become a cob-web site and rarely visited, similar to the WebTraining and FAQ sections. Oh well - at least I get my monthly wallpaper.
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Webmaster		#21 Posted : 05 February 2007 22:37:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC) Posts: 11,165		So, as a prospective buyer of the CS - I should wait for the new improved version, right?...
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Goofy		#22 Posted : 05 February 2007 22:40:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		You see,i was right...! I was expected,that Marklin are now reacting by to see what they have done before with older CS... Goofy
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Hemmerich		#23 Posted : 05 February 2007 23:18:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Webmaster <br />So, as a prospective buyer of the CS - I should wait for the new improved version, right?... Why, Juhan? Since things are clear now, you even don't need to.
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nevw		#24 Posted : 06 February 2007 00:03:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Lutz, Thanks for the information. Clear and Consise as Usual. I am breathing easy now. Nev
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Midtfynsdata		#25 Posted : 06 February 2007 00:17:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/12/2006(UTC) Posts: 37 Location: , Midtfyn		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />I think it's neccessary to clarify a few things here (again): A CS S/W update will be made available in Q2/2007, which will contain as well the long awaited FREE 6021- and s88 connection (it will be simply plugged into one of the two auxilary ports of the CS; thus no need for a mfx booster or an additional 6021 box which would have to be connected to a terminal (see also Systems Architecture diagram). The update (rather an upgrade) will imply: - opening of the Ethernet port - download of the update SW - optional (and free) installation of the plug-in card All will be described, such that (FIRST PRIORITY) dealers can update their demo units and that any customer with the corresponding desire and knowledge can update their CS. Otherwise either your favorite authorized Märklin dealer or service will do it for you. All further details will come then (so just be patient with any detailed questions). Sorry for asking but: Where can i find "system Architecture"? Does this mean that you will be able to connect it to a PC?
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john black		#26 Posted : 06 February 2007 00:27:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Webmaster <br />So, as a prospective buyer of the CS - I should wait for the new improved version, right? ... Why, Juhan? Since things are clear now, you even don't need to. O.K., a tough one. My Grandson won't get CS before his 10th birthday. Since this will be in year 2013 - I better wait for the next generation, right ...
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Bigdaddynz		#27 Posted : 06 February 2007 00:28:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,775 Location: New Zealand		Thanks Lutz, you're right on the money again, as usual. Like Nev, I can breathe easy again, and look forward to the CS update. I'm especially excited about the S88 and route control, which is one of the reasons why I wanted a CS in the first place. Looks like this topic has spread to at least 2 or 3 threads, over on the CS update thread it has been suggested by one of the M dealers who is a member of this forum, that the update will arrive in April.
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Bigdaddynz		#28 Posted : 06 February 2007 00:31:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,775 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Midtfynsdata Sorry for asking but: Where can i find "system Architecture"? Does this mean that you will be able to connect it to a PC? You can find the info here: http://www.maerklin.de/systems The ability to connect to a PC is one of the features that the CS will have eventually, but software for this is not yet available. See some of the previous posts in this thread, including the first post.
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Bart		#29 Posted : 06 February 2007 01:49:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/05/2002(UTC) Posts: 676		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black O.K., a tough one. My Grandson won't get CS before his 10th birthday. Since this will be in year 2013 - I better wait for the next generation, right ...
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Hemmerich		#30 Posted : 06 February 2007 13:22:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black O.K., a tough one. My Grandson won't get CS before his 10th birthday. Since this will be in year 2013 - I better wait for the next generation, right ... Why "tough"? 1985 - First generation (MM/6020) . 1986 - 1993 - intermediate updates/products (IFC, Memory, 6021, Delta, multifunction decoders) . 2005 - Second generation (mfx/CS) . 2006 - 2020 - intermediate updates/products (protection of customer investment) . 2025 - third generation (RF-control?) 2059 - 200 Year Märklin anniversary! (your grandson celebrates his 56th birthday - his special gift: a fine Märklin gator - still being able to run on same tracks and controlled by the "museum edition" equipment of his beloved grandpa!!!)
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john black		#31 Posted : 06 February 2007 13:40:10(UTC) Retweet
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Goofy		#32 Posted : 06 February 2007 18:38:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		I dont think so that Marklin will still produced same tracks and models such like CS... Why not...? Because,we have no more trains in the world...! [}:)] Instead,we have air-automobiles and also air-trains too...! I mean,same like in the films "Star wars"...! HA HA HA...! Goofy [}:)]
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steventrain		#33 Posted : 06 February 2007 19:09:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> 2059 - 200 Year Märklin anniversary! Me and members wouldn't be around here.[|)]
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intruder		#34 Posted : 06 February 2007 19:17:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		In 2059 I'm only 104, still playing with my trains?
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john black		#35 Posted : 06 February 2007 19:52:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder <br />In 2059 I'm only 104, still playing with my trains? Young chap. This makin' a mere 108 for me ... [}:)] No worry, Svein - we'll run our trains, still. Six feet under, or in our next life / astral plane, or where ever this will be ... (they say there's MRR in heaven but 3-rail only for the good guys)
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Goofy		#36 Posted : 06 February 2007 20:02:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		And i will been 96 years old... But who cares...! [}:)] It´s only numbers... Goofy [:o)]
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intruder		#37 Posted : 06 February 2007 20:50:47(UTC) Retweet
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pa-pauls		#38 Posted : 07 February 2007 10:01:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Hmmm [:p] Only 90 here
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Sander van Wijk		#39 Posted : 07 February 2007 10:06:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		[OFF-topic-mode] I guess I might stand a chance to celebrate the Märklin 200th birthday, I'll be 74 by then... not completely impossible... [:p] [/OFF-topic-mode] To be a little more precise about the update: it is planned to come out May 2007. The information of Lutz on the content of the update is (pretty much) complete and concise.
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Bigdaddynz		#40 Posted : 07 February 2007 10:21:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,775 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />I dont think so that Marklin will still produced same tracks and models such like CS... Why not...? Because,we have no more trains in the world...! [}:)] Instead,we have air-automobiles and also air-trains too...! I mean,same like in the films "Star wars"...! HA HA HA...! Goofy [}:)] You are wrong Goofy. We were supposed to have flying cars already in the year 2000. Where are they? Do you have one in your garage? There will always be trains. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder <br />In 2059 I'm only 104, still playing with my trains? 99 for me, and my 3021 will be 88 and still running like new!!
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HvR		#41 Posted : 07 February 2007 16:14:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 161 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pa-pauls But as always I do hope Herrn Hemmerich is correct [:p] My information is based upon direct communication with Märklin's R&D manager; so I'm not worried about any rumors! Lutz, Thanks for the update. Question: away from the update on existing CS's, when will M* start delivery of new "new version" CS's? Any clue? I can hardly believe they keep on sending out "old versions" until May also. Regards, Hans
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stephenbb		#42 Posted : 07 February 2007 17:32:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		To much speculation!!!!!!!! why not just relax play with your trains and wait to see what happens. We waste yo much energy speculating, and not haveing any control over what the company will do.
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Goofy		#43 Posted : 07 February 2007 19:28:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,282		We are hungry after information,that´s way...! [}:)] Goofy
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Hemmerich		#44 Posted : 07 February 2007 19:29:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by HvR Question: away from the update on existing CS's, when will M* start delivery of new "new version" CS's? Any clue? I can hardly believe they keep on sending out "old versions" until May also. It can be expected that delivery of upgraded CS's and the upgrade kits will occur about at the same time (what else?). Until then CS's with the current version should be shipped against open orders as long as the product database traffic light is green; it might happen that this is changing to yellow at some time, for example during an upgrade of their current stock (again what else?).
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hxmiesa		#45 Posted : 08 February 2007 13:50:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,595 Location: Spain		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich 1985 - First generation (MM/6020) 1986 - 1993 - intermediate updates/products (IFC, Memory, 6021, Delta, multifunction decoders) 2005 - Second generation (mfx/CS) 2006 - 2020 - intermediate updates/products (protection of customer investment) 2025 - third generation (RF-control?) I think this predicament does not adhere to Moores law about development frequency! ;-)
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clapcott		#46 Posted : 08 February 2007 20:09:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,448 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hxmiesa <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich 1985 - First generation (MM/6020) 1986 - 1993 - intermediate updates/products (IFC, Memory, 6021, Delta, multifunction decoders) 2005 - Second generation (mfx/CS) 2006 - 2020 - intermediate updates/products (protection of customer investment) 2025 - third generation (RF-control?) I think this predicament does not adhere to Moores law about development frequency! ;-) Moores Law is an observation about humanity and its use/implementation of science/technology - so it is therefore self fulfilling. As to the milestones above They are misleading. For one M* promoted mFX as the 3rd generation of its systems. RF (Radio frequency?) is simply another signalling mechanism and, feature-wise, offers nothing new. It is a total system of ergonomically interoperable (selective/choice) components that is required for anyone with vision into the future.
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steventrain		#47 Posted : 08 February 2007 20:11:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> 2059 - 200 Year Märklin anniversary! Me and members wouldn't be around here.[|)] Or I am still here at age 87.
		Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Gert-Jan		#48 Posted : 08 February 2007 22:52:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2005(UTC) Posts: 777 Location: Netherlands		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:<br /> Quote: Originally posted by Hemmerich 1985 - First generation (MM/6020) 1986 - 1993 - intermediate updates/products (IFC, Memory, 6021, Delta, multifunction decoders) 2005 - Second generation (mfx/CS) 2006 - 2020 - intermediate updates/products (protection of customer investment) 2025 - third generation (RF-control?) I decided for just living NOW with my beloved year 2005 CS And I will be off line for next weeks since my early year 2000 PC has gone.(costs around 2000 euro then is sold for 100 euro) I might recieve my new 2007 Vista PC soon...just after that order my BR05 Voucher arrived [B)] Hard times for financial department...
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Piper		#49 Posted : 08 February 2007 23:02:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 262 Location: Johannesburg		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:I think this predicament does not adhere to Moores law about development frequency! ;-) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Moore's Law is the empirical observation made in 1965 that the number of transistors on an integrated circuit for minimum component cost doubles every 24 months. It is attributed to Gordon E. Moore (born 1929),a co-founder of Intel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law
		Era I-V / HO / C-Track / MS2, CS2 & CS3 Z gauge. Insider Member of Märklin Modellers Group
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Hemmerich		#50 Posted : 08 February 2007 23:46:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hxmiesa I think this predicament does not adhere to Moores law about development frequency! ;-) Moore's law has little to nothing to do with model railroading, especially when it comes down to Märklin. This applies to other, completely different "laws".
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