Hi,

the new items from Roco are here:
http://www.modellbahnecke.de/prospekte/2007/roco2007.htm

Have fun!

Thomas

Stephen:

I increased the size of these scans and it looks like most (not all) of the loks will be available in AC.

r/mark

There are some interesting Belgian cars and a new version of the NOHAB in SNCB livery.

How can the specialists compare the Roco and Märklin NOHAB's ?

Pierre.

WOW! two italian locos in AC (E656 and ALn448)! That's a miracle! [:p][:p][:p]
(I think I won't buy Marklin locos this year...[xx(])

And there's even two car sets of Portuguese Corail coaches! Major news!

Also, silent AC pickup shoes are back!

Roco will get another customer this year!

Luís

Hi all,

I am all the more delighted to see that ROCO is still keeping the 1:87 scale-correct 303 mmm coaches. I will add some to my new year's wish list.
Armando

The prices listed for the ROCO News items 2007 on Michael Weiss' pages are UVP (.e. the recommended manufacturer price). So, you can compare them with typical street prices.

There are some major price differences for various models; i.e. lower price ~ lower quality. The BR151 for example (#63636, pg.29) is based upon a construction back in the very early days of ROCO and will not be offered in AC (which is actually a wise decision ).

The SBB Ae 3/6 was already offered as new item in 2006, but its delivery is apparently quite a bit delayed - which is not a big surprise.

The ROCO SNCB Reeks is a Nohab, but the as well new DSB MZ's are a complete different type than the Märklin MY. My new Märklin "gods" (#37667) is nicely detailed (even the side screens are separate inlays), runs very quiet - unless I activate the sound - and due to its heavy weight is a very strong puller (which is the biggest difference to the comparable ROCO Model). Although still having the same sheet metal base, IMHO it cannot be really compared with those "old Märklin ladies" from 40 years ago anymore. The two only disatvantages I see is that the driver needs a ladder to get up to the doors (which I can easily live with ) and the mentioned lack of driver cabin interior (which I changed easily). If I had to decide for another MY I'd preferrable look at Heljan.

So far I've only found two or three news items in the flyer that could potentially attract me, which is already less than my current 2007 Märklin "purchase plan" - even before all news are made public.

Completely true!
The recent "Nohab" from Marklin is a very different work...( not like last and former models of Nohab)
It seems they have remoulded the bogies, the hand rails are very thin,the whole thing looks more detailled.
I remember the first model of Roco Nohab, there was a problem of print"tampography" too! ( It was the one from the CFL railways. Again and always those satanic yellow stripes on the front!...)
For me The Marklin Nohab is a special one, unique!I have open the Roco Nohab,it is surely a prototypical model, but the price they have been selling it doesn 't give good value for money. For a plastic technology with common can motor, I find it expensive. .

I will go for M's NOHAB models over Roco's any day.

As mentioned by others the new mfx NOHAB models are superbly detailed and very quiet, but even the old 'noisy' delta versions are preferable to Roco's plastic version IMHO...
They simply ooze of old-time atmosphere in a way no Roco model ever will... and they are superb pullers!

But make no mistake, I do buy Roco stuff as well... Last one was the K.Bay. S3/6 (69362) which was/is on sale with a 33% discount at my local dealer (sorry Mike, I know he's got more than his share of my M money, but it was calling out to me )

Whenever Marklin and Roco models overlap, I always prefer (and steer others to) Marklin models - no exceptions. Interesting how Marklin decided not to put out SBB RAm TEE under its own brand this year (only TRIX), but Roco is stepping in to fill the "void" in AC world with 69121 model

Mike.

I too, have a thing for NOHABs. Most are M* AC analog versions of DSB and NSB models. These are the ones I run. I have others from Heljan and Roco. I don't know how they run because they are DC and I don't at this time run that. I hear that Roco loks sometimes shed parts and break easily-the Heljan ones have bags of parts to install...I don't care, I like the way they look and they were pretty cheap. Since I don't run digital, I wish they had the DSB new model in a cheaper analog version (that topic was dealt with recently).
I have to say that the best looking lok I have is the Roco Lyntog.It is totally gorgeous but I can see major problems running it for any length of time. So it will be on display for a while.
I say, more Nohabs. In my perfect world, all loks would be Nohabs....