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Macfire		#1 Posted : 21 December 2006 17:27:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Overheard at a Marklin Club meet in Auckland earlier this month. "Everyone should have a 3000, V200, Rail-Bus and a Banana Car" Oh so true. Just what I had as a kid back in the '60's Your thoughts?
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intruder		#2 Posted : 21 December 2006 17:33:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		I just miss the V200 and the banana car, then
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viragoLDR		#3 Posted : 21 December 2006 17:43:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 703 Location: ,		Don't have either of those ;) I've got 3 n-scale railbusses on order though ;) As for Marklin, I think a big boy is really a must-have
		- Martijn (early planning : H0-scale Era I K.Bay.sts.b) (active planning : N-scale mixed late Era Japanese) (possibly something Z-scale as well ;))
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rschaffr		#4 Posted : 21 December 2006 18:02:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		I have them all. Actually I have two V200's and two rail busses (on old and one new)
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steventrain		#5 Posted : 21 December 2006 19:05:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		I dont have either but i have 39821 V200.
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hxmiesa		#6 Posted : 21 December 2006 19:18:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,600 Location: Spain		I only need the banana-car then!
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Frostie		#7 Posted : 21 December 2006 19:45:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,614 Location: Birmingham,Alabama		I do not have the 3000. I just cannot get interested in the item. I have an old Banana Car set, The New Railbus and a V200 with Maybach Livery.
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Guus		#8 Posted : 21 December 2006 20:21:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Hi Tony, This is oh so true! I also think there are some true Märklin classics.Part of them,like the SBB Ce 6/8 and the V200 were unattainable when I was a child. I do have the Banana car and the 3000,I'm undecided yet which V200 to buy in the future,but I'm sure eventually I'll have one. Kind regards Guus
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RayF		#9 Posted : 21 December 2006 20:37:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		I have all 4, though really the v200 should be the 3021, whereas I have the 3782. Ray
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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WelshMatt		#10 Posted : 21 December 2006 21:04:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,345 Location: ,		I don't have any of those, but I do have some of the "Hobby" freight stock - I feel at least one of each type of these is essential. I think Marklin could do well to release a multi-pack of the 4430 - ok, not as detailed as the more expensive opens but add a little weathering to a train of ten or so and they'd look pretty good. I would say that a Marklin collection is not complete without one of the assorted wagons they've offered over the years with "Marklin" lettering. Likewise, at least one beer van is needed, and maybe a sprinkling of special edition items. There are, of course, items like this that fill two needs: it's a Hobby model and it's a special edition! P.S. What's the reference number for the banana van? Just thinking I ought to check it out!
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MartinB		#11 Posted : 21 December 2006 21:26:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 326 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Macfire "Everyone should have a 3000, V200, Rail-Bus and a Banana Car" I have a Br 221, a railbus and a bananacar. I think every layout should have a 7051 crane
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Troy Yang		#12 Posted : 21 December 2006 22:06:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2003(UTC) Posts: 356 Location: San Francisco, California USA		Got all of them. Even have a die cast banana car #326!!! IMHO, I think every Markliner should have at least one German Crocodil E94/BR194 and a 2-10-0 steam locomotive. Troy
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jerdenberg		#13 Posted : 21 December 2006 23:22:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,025 Location: Den Helder, Noord-Holland		I think 3029 should be on even footing with 3000. It was the first loco, in the starter set with the 10VA transformer and either the two passenger cars or the flat car and the Kippwagen, for many starters (like me) long ago, and I still have it (the 3000 was in the more expensive starter sets wasn't it?). Jeroen
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hmsfix		#14 Posted : 21 December 2006 23:22:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,383 Location: Darmstadt,		I have the 3000 and the banana car on my old 1960's layout, it's an old 4509 (?) car with tin plate frame. No V 200 and no rail bus here. But what about a 3003 (BR 24), and this red 4513 tipper car ? The crane 7051 is a good point, I think it is very common on many older layouts, and one of the most pedagogical toys ever seen. Generations of crane operators earned their first professional skills on this device. Hans Martin
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Sander van Wijk		#15 Posted : 21 December 2006 23:23:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Interesting topic, but if owning any (or all) models presented and discussed above is representative for a true Märklinist I'm definately not one. Strange, considering my enthusiasm, interest and collection concerning Märklin... Basically: it all comes down to a matter of personal taste.
		Sander --- Era I(b): K.Bay.Sts.B. and K.W.St.E.
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rschaffr		#16 Posted : 22 December 2006 00:01:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		True, Sander. This hobby has many facets to appeal to many different people.
		-Ron Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/CS3/6021Connect/60216051), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051) http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
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intruder		#17 Posted : 22 December 2006 00:38:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		I have the crane 7051 A little bit modified, with the under-board mounting kit, an extra motor underneath to lower and rise the crane arm and of course digitally controlled with one 6080 and one 60960. The arm mechanism is undergoing a slow paste modification for the time beeing (read: nothing has been done for a while) I also have a two German crocs and several 2-10-0 steamers
		Best regards Svein, Norway grumpy old sod
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xxup		#18 Posted : 22 December 2006 08:49:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,612 Location: Australia		Money... Every Marklin layout needs lots of money...
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foumaro		#19 Posted : 22 December 2006 08:56:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,431 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		You got it. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by xxup <br />Money... Every Marklin layout needs lots of money...
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Oscar		#20 Posted : 22 December 2006 09:20:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		<font face="Verdana]I have them all. And yes, the 3029 should be in that list as well. I've got 2 of those: one in a vintage starterset and one in a light-blue box.</font id="Verdana]
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rugauger		#21 Posted : 22 December 2006 12:28:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/12/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,205 Location: Swindon, Wiltshire		I think a 3032 BR 81 with Telex is also a must.
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hxmiesa		#22 Posted : 22 December 2006 13:42:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,600 Location: Spain		All this stuff is for the oldies. How about the newcomers? ;-) I think at least they should all have a V100/BR212 and a BR86-telex. And one of the electrics from the hobby-range... (The one with a billion different color-versions...) Are there any modern classics among the waggons and other accessories?
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laalves		#23 Posted : 22 December 2006 14:21:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hxmiesa <br />Are there any modern classics among the waggons and other accessories? Württ C, Württ K, P8, S10, VT11.5, SVT137..... Luís
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intruder		#24 Posted : 22 December 2006 15:14:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Soon we will end up with tho whole list... No wonder we have a lot of locomotives
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rugauger		#25 Posted : 22 December 2006 15:46:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/12/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,205 Location: Swindon, Wiltshire		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hxmiesa <br />All this stuff is for the oldies. How about the newcomers? ;-) ... Tough luck! Actually, I think even a newcomer should have a 3021 V200. It's an ICON! The newer versions just don't have the same "feel factor" Oh, and a set of 24cm tinplate coaches, of course! To go with that 3021 [:p]
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al_pignolo		#26 Posted : 22 December 2006 16:18:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 904 Location: bologna, BO		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jerdenberg <br />I think 3029 should be on even footing with 3000. It was the first loco, in the starter set with the 10VA transformer and either the two passenger cars or the flat car and the Kippwagen, for many starters (like me) long ago, and I still have it (the 3000 was in the more expensive starter sets wasn't it?). Jeroen I would say a 3029, OR a 3087 or any other "single drive" steam loco.
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Zora la rousse		#27 Posted : 22 December 2006 20:29:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/10/2005(UTC) Posts: 856 Location: ,		A helpfull father !
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MartinB		#28 Posted : 22 December 2006 23:23:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 326 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder <br />I have the crane 7051 an extra motor underneath to lower and rise the crane arm Do you have pictures, Svein? Mine is controlled by two (on)-off-(on) switches controlling each of the two motors. The speed is controlled by a 10VA-trafo. With this setup I can control the crane very accurately, with smooth movements and high presision.
		Best regards MartinB Märklin Systems K-track and C-track Deutsche Bundesbahn Ep.3
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intruder		#29 Posted : 22 December 2006 23:51:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Please give me some time, MartinB. I will soon come back with some photos and a wiring diagram
		Best regards Svein, Norway grumpy old sod
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nevw		#30 Posted : 23 December 2006 00:20:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		What do we Need 1. SOme TRains, Any will do. 2. A Layout of some description 3, As Adrian said, Lots of Money 4. A FD who lets you buy as much as you want 5. a room big enough to build the layout of your dreams.
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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intruder		#31 Posted : 23 December 2006 00:34:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		The time is here, MartinB The crane, hidden away in a shelf somewhere, partly disassembled for crane arm lift mechanism modification. The motors The decoders The thing string lifting the arm goes from the axle via two rollers (not mounted yet, indicated by yellow colour) end through the hole in the centre (yellow arrow) and goes through the center shaft, which is actually a pipe (not the original shaft from the underground kit) The string will go via two rollers backwords and up to the arm, via a roller installed in the arm counterweight and down again to the crane house. The arm is spring loaded in downword direction, using the spring form an old floppy disk sliding cover. And finally, I just by coincidence found the old wiring diagram a couple of days ago f0 from 6080 is connected to a lamp under the board, to see the motor in the darkness. f3 from 60960 will be connected to a small lamp under the crane tower. f4 from 60960 is connected to the crane for the magnet and two working lamps.
		Best regards Svein, Norway grumpy old sod
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HueyCE		#32 Posted : 23 December 2006 00:55:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw <br />Waht do we Need 1. SOme TRains, Any will do. 2. A Layout of some description 3, As Adrian said, Lots of Money 4. A FD who lets you buy as much as you want 5. a room big enough to build the layout of your dreams. I think you hit the nail on the head with this list Nev. Ira
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Guus		#33 Posted : 23 December 2006 10:54:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Hi all, Nobody mentioned the GM EMD F7 yet. Also in the old days this was a desirable loco and I think this is a classic Märklin item too.A must have in every American layout. Guus
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john black		#34 Posted : 23 December 2006 13:02:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		... and she still is today - more then ever. Bravo, Guus
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hxmiesa		#35 Posted : 23 December 2006 17:38:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,600 Location: Spain		@Intruder; Very ingenious! Congratz!
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MartinB		#36 Posted : 23 December 2006 22:48:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 326 Location: ,		Svein, very clever solution indeed [:p] Thanks for sharing! God Jul!!
		Best regards MartinB Märklin Systems K-track and C-track Deutsche Bundesbahn Ep.3
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al_pignolo		#37 Posted : 24 December 2006 12:58:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 904 Location: bologna, BO		I wonder how many models have been produced of 3000, 3021, 3016, 3029... that I think are the most sold in the history of Maerklin (maybe also 3001, 3031...?).
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drstapes		#38 Posted : 24 December 2006 14:05:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/08/2004(UTC) Posts: 764 Location: Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk		For old time enthusists. You must have a DA 800 as well.
		Regards Geoff (UK) marklin HO from the 50's and 60's
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