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Offline DamonKelly  
#1 Posted : 20 September 2006 17:18:51(UTC)
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DamonKelly

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I have a 3034 loco dating from approx. 1967. I assume #3034 is supposed to be an E41.

Bigio has a picture of the exact model.

My question is:
This model looks somewhat different from the current Märklin 30345...in particular the old model has single headlights, the new twin.

Can anyone point me to a resource showing the actual E41?

I wouldn't normally obsess about these things, but this loco has sentimental value. It was bought for me when I was ...mumble...errr...very young... in Fulda, and in "my youth" was my favourite loco. My particular example has lead a very hard life, but still (after a new pickup shoe, a good clean, and an oil) performs well.

Is touch-up paint available for a loco this old?

A short digression:
I did note that it tended to reverse on full throttle (well, as a kid, full throttle was the only way to go [}:)]).
My Dad and I figured it out, though:
The transformer supplied with our starter set 2963 was rated at 220Vac. Normal line voltage in Australia is (or was) 240Vac. It is possible that with the higher line voltage, "full throttle" voltage gets perilously close to the "reversing voltage".

NB I don't know whether to post this here or under "Prototypes", but since it's really about a Märklin loco, here it will be...

Cheers,
Damon
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Offline verheyen  
#2 Posted : 20 September 2006 18:14:26(UTC)
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To paraphrase a favorite movie, I've said it once, and I'll say it again...

http://www.railfaneurope.net/.

This is hands down the best in one-stop shopping. Bookmark it, engrave it on your engines, but most of all remember it.

The E41 is at http://www.railfaneurope.net/pi...ic/historic/E41/pix.html

The engine was originally delivered in blue due to its ability to run trains at 120kph but that was changed to green shortly after delivery. The original was also delivered with three lamps, with the seperate "lenses" for the red added later. Both versions of the classic Marklin E41 are "correct" but I'm not certain about the 30345 which is blue and has the double lamps. It wouldn't surprise me if M* took some of it's usual liberties here. The classic old one is often listed on eBay and for nostalgic reasons I'd look there. I had the blue one too, and found just a green top on eBay and now I can run both versions. Still would like to have an accurate later version so will need stray.

p.

Hope this helps, p.

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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by DamonKelly
<br />twin.

Can anyone point me to a resource showing the actual E41?
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Offline rugauger  
#3 Posted : 20 September 2006 18:42:33(UTC)
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In response to the second question: yes. Marklin transformers (at least the older ones) are not stabilised, so a 10% increase in input voltage will result in a 10% increase in output voltage. So your output current is likely to be around the 18V mark now, or perhaps even more. If you combine this with a slack spring on the reversing relay, you will "hit the reverse" when you get to full throttle.

BE CAREFUL - I recently fried a decoder in analog mode with the very same setup - an old 220V transformer running on the 240V that we have over here. Not healthy. However, no problem for locos with the good old analog reversing relay.
Richard
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Offline al_pignolo  
#4 Posted : 20 September 2006 18:55:46(UTC)
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BE CAREFUL - I recently fried a decoder in analog mode with the very same setup - an old 220V transformer running on the 240V that we have over here. Not healthy. However, no problem for locos with the good old analog reversing relay.


Hmmmm... this could be the reason why I fried a delta decoder while I was trying it in analog-mode? When I've given the reverse pulse I obtained only a cloud of smoke... [xx(]
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Offline john black  
#5 Posted : 20 September 2006 19:45:11(UTC)
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<br />Can anyone point me to a resource showing the actual E41?

Hi Damon - here's an especially nice one of the famous E41001 Museum Loco Smile
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Offline hmsfix  
#6 Posted : 20 September 2006 22:56:33(UTC)
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Hi Damon,

see http://www.baureihe141.de
Sorry, text is only in german, but there are a lot of pictures.

Actually there are E41s with single and double headlights. The first series had single lights (I don't know up to which road number, but certainly E41-024 had). Later series had double lights.

Hans Martin
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Offline steventrain  
#7 Posted : 20 September 2006 23:16:37(UTC)
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Very good link.
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Offline DamonKelly  
#8 Posted : 21 September 2006 15:17:20(UTC)
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Thanks everyone for the info and links.

It seems my beloved "blue engine" is alright, after all! biggrin

And John, that photo looks just like my 3034...but in better condition. [:I]
Children can be hell on fine, precision model locomotives [}:)]

So, I remember someone saying touch-up paint was still available for old locos. Where do I find this info?
Cheers,
Damon
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Offline john black  
#9 Posted : 21 September 2006 20:31:29(UTC)
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Damon, touch-up paint may do nicely for minor nicks and scratches ...
But according your description her shell ought to be in rather poor condition
- so why not give her a completely new hue of nice midnight blue metallic ? [:p]
Coincidentally Bart just opened a new topic on this ... Cool

BTW, this is my stone old analog E41 - still going strong. And fast biggrin
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Offline Armando  
#10 Posted : 22 September 2006 21:02:13(UTC)
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Hi

There is an interesting article on the "Einheitsloks" in the September issue of the MIBA magazin with plenty of high quality nice photos.
Armando
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Offline DamonKelly  
#11 Posted : 23 September 2006 18:44:24(UTC)
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<br />Damon, touch-up paint may do nicely for minor nicks and scratches ...
But according your description her shell ought to be in rather poor condition
- so why not give her a completely new hue of nice midnight blue metallic ? [:p]


OK, I exaggerated a bit on the condition of my old 3034...[:I]

There are no dents, but a few paint blisters. Particularly in the blue body paint. A few more in the roof silver paint...I'm looking at the loco right now, and I can see a silver paint "touch-up" I must have done 20 years ago...and it shows! [:I]

Back to the original question...is genuine "touch-up" paint still available?
Cheers,
Damon
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Offline DamonKelly  
#12 Posted : 23 September 2006 18:48:36(UTC)
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As a further aside, one thing I've really noticed is that this old 3034 is really heavy...it's a serious bit of die-cast heavy metal, more so than a c.1999 vintage #33184 class BR18.4 steamer...


Cheers,
Damon
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Offline DamonKelly  
#13 Posted : 23 September 2006 18:51:09(UTC)
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...and I'm sorry John, that blue is just...well...too OTT.
Cheers,
Damon
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Offline john black  
#14 Posted : 25 September 2006 10:38:38(UTC)
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Right. That's how I got her from Ebay ... [:I]
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