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Offline Tex  
#1 Posted : 15 July 2009 04:13:43(UTC)
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I have both a 6016 and a 6017 booster. The cables plug in differently but is there any difference other than that? Can they be used to control different parts of the same layout? My engines have C 80, FX and Lokpilot decoders. Do the transformers have to be in phase ? Should they have common ground ? At present, I have only the 6017 booster in operation. I have found that the Lokpilot decoders work only when the 6021 control number 2 switch is on and numbers 1, 3 and 4 are off.

Offline Maxi  
#2 Posted : 15 July 2009 04:20:29(UTC)
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The short answer is no.
The 6016 is designed for two rail DC, a program that was short lived in the Marklin Digital line up.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#3 Posted : 15 July 2009 04:25:15(UTC)
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What are the differences between the 6017 and 6015 boosters?
Offline H0  
#4 Posted : 15 July 2009 13:57:43(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Tex
<br />I have both a 6016 and a 6017 booster. The cables plug in differently but is there any difference other than that?

Yes, AFAIK the polarity of the shortcut detection line is reversed.
Therefore you cannot use a 6016 directly with a 6021.

A 6016 can boost both DCC and MM (and probably mfx, too, but w/o feedback). But you have to make a connection of your own (probably w/o connecting the shortcut detection line).
Regards
Tom
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Offline Tex  
#5 Posted : 15 July 2009 15:37:01(UTC)
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It seems that I have made another error. The decoder under discussion is a 6015 and the question should be the one posed by bigdaddynz. My other question is on polarity as my older transformers have equal size prongs and can be plugged in either way.
Offline Maxi  
#6 Posted : 15 July 2009 16:18:14(UTC)
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Both the 6015 and 6017 will work together.
The connector for the data cable is upside down on the 6015 when compared to the 6017. There are minor differences between the two models, but will work together. Each section which is powered by a different booster needs to be isolated.

For the power supply, the polarity needs to be the same for all power supplies. This should be determined before connecting the power supplies to the layout. Once the polarity is determined, it would be a good idea to then plug all the power supplies into a power bar and just turn the power bar on and off.

Near the end of the following document created by Timothy Eckert explains how to check if the transformers are the correct polarity. http://www.marklincafe.com/MCF/...MarklinWiringBooklet.pdf
Offline H0  
#7 Posted : 15 July 2009 19:38:40(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Maxi
<br />For the power supply, the polarity needs to be the same for all power supplies.

That's true for analogue, but not required for digital!

The transformers don't feed the track, the boosters do. Therefore it's important to get red and brown connected correctly.
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Tom
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Offline Renato  
#8 Posted : 15 July 2009 19:50:43(UTC)
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Hi Tex,

as the boosters supply digital power to the tracks (two insulated circuits!), in my opinion the polarity of the transformers feeding the boosters is not important.
What Maxi is referring to has to be applied to the tracks circuits operated in AC (analog).
I have checked the 6017 booster manual and there is no information about the polarity of the transformers (of course the "O" brown wires of the boosters must be connected together).

Bye

Renato
Offline Tex  
#9 Posted : 18 July 2009 16:54:56(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Renato
<br />Hi Tex,

as the boosters supply digital power to the tracks (two insulated circuits!), in my opinion the polarity of the transformers feeding the boosters is not important.
What Maxi is referring to has to be applied to the tracks circuits operated in AC (analog).
I have checked the 6017 booster manual and there is no information about the polarity of the transformers (of course the "O" brown wires of the boosters must be connected together).

Thank you. I believe that this answers my question

Bye

Renato
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