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Offline john black  
#1 Posted : 18 October 2005 03:59:16(UTC)
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Got this starter set today but couldn't find any volume adjustment (for the whistle) in the loco's manual. Also nothing in MS' menu ... Is there such possibility, anyway ?

Thanks,
John
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Offline PeterNZ  
#2 Posted : 18 October 2005 04:11:33(UTC)
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Hi John
I don't think you can, I've not found it with MS. What I'd really like to know is how to get into the loco to fit a smoke generator, any ideas on this?
Offline john black  
#3 Posted : 18 October 2005 04:23:37(UTC)
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Hi Peter: Such occured to me, too, already ... [xx(]
Re your question - didn't dare to open that loco til now. My deep worries are I could break something (you know, our clever manual says we don't need to do such ... [xx(][xx(][xx(])
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Offline PeterNZ  
#4 Posted : 18 October 2005 04:28:42(UTC)
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Hi John, yes I know the manual says you don't need to open it but at some stage you may need to fit new brushes etc and I can't find how to get in. don't want to break it!!
Offline john black  
#5 Posted : 18 October 2005 04:32:03(UTC)
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Peter, I guess we wait for advice from our digital Gurus. Most of the time they know more than M ... biggrin
Also, there's no word in M's data base about retrofitting smoke. But even when fitting all the parts by yourself perhaps that plastic shell won't stand the generator's heat ...
Re brushes: I presume she got one of those new "brushless" can motors - "Ya never need to change those brushes", M 'd say ... (just replace the motor. Or loco. At dealership [}:)])
On the other hand - in their online data base M mentions the replacement motor (hefty €83.- price tag !!!) and also a SINGLE brush - no pair ???! Strange ...
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Offline Lars Westerlind  
#6 Posted : 18 October 2005 09:57:11(UTC)
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Say the right words Smile
Offline john black  
#7 Posted : 18 October 2005 11:24:35(UTC)
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... so our wildest dreams came true [:o)] - thanks, Lars Smile
Peter - Julio wrote an test report on her in this Forum's "Model & Loco" section ...

Well, never mind. Bought this train for our Grandkids and as such it is just perfect - great looks, (relatively) smooth runner, very bright high beam (in light blue !) plus a nice but LOW-volume whistle [:p] !!!
And our Daughter-in-law surely won't argue [}:)] about the missing adjustment ...
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Offline MärCo  
#8 Posted : 18 October 2005 11:39:18(UTC)
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My guess it is a Hornby locomotive. I think that if you take a closer look on the motor, it could be a DC motor with a digital decoder from Märklin.
If so, it could be a standard Hornby DC motor, so I would get in contact with Hornby for spare parts.

About the smoke generator, has Seuthe not anything to offer?
Absolutly AFB-NOHAB fan ;-)
Offline john black  
#9 Posted : 18 October 2005 12:10:14(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by MärCo
<br />My guess it is a Hornby locomotive


Right. If memory serves biggrin - we had discussed #29550 extensively in earlier topics about one year ago ... but then I didn't buy one (no whistle)
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Offline steventrain  
#10 Posted : 18 October 2005 12:22:26(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by MärCo
<br />My guess it is a Hornby locomotive. I think that if you take a closer look on the motor, it could be a DC motor with a digital decoder from Märklin.
If so, it could be a standard Hornby DC motor, so I would get in contact with Hornby for spare parts.

About the smoke generator, has Seuthe not anything to offer?



Yes it is a hornby harry potter locomotive with coaches as well.I am sure marklin harry potter was made in china by hornby.The smoke unit not fit as well.
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Offline steventrain  
#11 Posted : 18 October 2005 12:24:07(UTC)
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Welcome to the forum PeterNZ.
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Offline steventrain  
#12 Posted : 18 October 2005 12:26:12(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by MärCo
<br />My guess it is a Hornby locomotive. I think that if you take a closer look on the motor, it could be a DC motor with a digital decoder from Märklin.
If so, it could be a standard Hornby DC motor, so I would get in contact with Hornby for spare parts.

About the smoke generator, has Seuthe not anything to offer?



Yes it is a hornby harry potter locomotive with coaches as well.I am sure marklin harry potter was made in china by hornby.The smoke unit not fit as well.



....Also new marklin thomas the tank engine set made in china by hornby as well.
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Offline john black  
#13 Posted : 18 October 2005 12:28:25(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />Yes it is a hornby harry potter locomotive with coaches as well.I am sure marklin harry potter was made in china by hornby.The smoke unit not fit as well


Thanks, Steven Smile - but at least there's a GOLDEN [xx(] M logo at the bottom ...
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Offline steventrain  
#14 Posted : 18 October 2005 17:31:10(UTC)
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Hi john,
Here is the link of hornby harry potter loco review to see match one.
http://www.modelrailforu...t=page&pg=H-Hogwarts

Have you see any mark 'Made in Germany or China' under the loco/coaches?
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Offline john black  
#15 Posted : 18 October 2005 23:20:29(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />Have you see any mark 'Made in Germany or China' under the loco/coaches ?

Steven: Frankly, no - there's only "Märklin" (in gold letters), that's all. Many thanks for the great link - excellent loco review with lots of quality pictures [:p] !!! And you were right, it's the very same HORNBY loco M sells under his name (except for decoder and high beam light).

Well, now I know WHY M doesn't want us to look under that shell - the only parts made of metal oughta be the wheels biggrinbiggrinbiggrin And why there'll never be a smoke unit ...

UserPostedImage
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
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Offline steventrain  
#16 Posted : 19 October 2005 00:44:50(UTC)
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No problemwink
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Offline DasBert33  
#17 Posted : 19 October 2005 15:20:59(UTC)
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Damn, that looks cheap...
Offline john black  
#18 Posted : 19 October 2005 20:30:24(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by DasBert33
<br />Damn, that looks cheap ...

Yeah - the fate of a bastard ... [:(]


Edit: PAID WAY TOO MUCH (€ 300.-) FOR THAT PIECE OF PLASTIC JUNK - JUST HAVE A LOOK AT THIS = €170.- !!! [:(!][:(!][:(!]

UserPostedImage

Found at www.maerklin-store-centro.de ...


Well - in the future I'll compare 9 dealers !!! (not just 3 ...) Cool

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AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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Offline Hemmerich  
#19 Posted : 24 November 2005 00:39:35(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by DasBert33
<br />Damn, that looks cheap...


Looks the same when you open an Fleischmann model - but there its unchanged since decades! biggrin

Regards,
Lutz
Offline Hemmerich  
#20 Posted : 24 November 2005 00:50:58(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
<br />Got this starter set today but couldn't find any volume adjustment (for the whistle) in the loco's manual. Also nothing in MS' menu ... Is there such possibility, anyway ?

Thanks,
John


John,

you didn't find anything as there is nothing to adjust; the whistle is a single shot sound.

And NO, there is also no need anymore to completely dismount the loco as shown in one of the other pics. [}:)]

Regards,
Lutz
Offline john black  
#21 Posted : 24 November 2005 00:56:21(UTC)
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Good answer. But 5 weeks late ... [xx(]
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Offline Hemmerich  
#22 Posted : 24 November 2005 01:31:37(UTC)
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Never heard of time being important to this hobby! [}:)]

That's why it is so pleasant and relaxing - at least for me! biggrin

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Offline Transfesa  
#23 Posted : 24 November 2005 11:16:04(UTC)
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Hi all,

I own the earlier version from the 29550 set, it's just the same but without sound and MS. Well, in fact it belongs to my girlfriend, but I have her permission to touch it biggrin

Concerning the smoke generator, I've been tried to find a solution, but that would be very difficult because the smokebox isn't open underneath and there's a heavy metal weight inside, and there's also the contacts of the white LED as front light.

So the only solution I've thought of is cutting the front part of the metal weight, make a big hole just under the chimney in the bottom of the smokebox, be careful with the contacts of the LED and push upwards a Seuthe nr. 23 which seems to be made for plastic models... but to be honest, I still have some doubts about this point. Anyone has tried this smoke generator in any plastic steam engine? [:I]

I still don't know if I will decide to do this 'wide-surgery operation' in a future, but I'll keep you updated. In the meanwhile, I accept any idea or suggestion from any of you folks wink

Kind regards.

Julio Castillo
Madrid, Spain
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