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KjellAn		#1 Posted : 29 August 2005 23:57:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Sarpsborg, Norway		I've a new E69 - Mä37478 - a very nice little electric locomotive. It is ecciped with a fx-decoder (not a mfx-decoder). I'm opertaing my layout with the DAISY from Uhlenbrock. Is it possible to set the CV's for adress (01), acceleration/braking delay (03) and maximum speed (05) with the Daisy
		Kjell Anderdal Märklin H0-K Digital / Uhlenbrock IB-IR/Daisy+Power3 / Norwegian+German epoch III+IV "The sound of an electro-locomotive is greater than all ..."
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pa-pauls		#2 Posted : 30 August 2005 05:18:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Sorry KjellAn, but this is not possible. This lokomotive has a special dekoder without any possible adress change unless with a soldering iron ! Have send you an e-mail i Norwegian !
		Pål Paulsen Märklin Spur 1 Digital, epoche 3
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KjellAn		#3 Posted : 01 September 2005 16:27:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Sarpsborg, Norway		The instruction-manual tells that there are different possible values (CV's) for adress (01), acceleration/braking delay (03) and maximum speed (05) of the 37478-locomotive. The locomotive is a new one of this year edition (2005). Could I set the CV's by using the new Mobile Station ? - and then move the locomotive over to my layout. I should think that the CV's are still kept in the locomotive when running it with my UB-eccipement. Any other suggestions ...
		Kjell Anderdal Märklin H0-K Digital / Uhlenbrock IB-IR/Daisy+Power3 / Norwegian+German epoch III+IV "The sound of an electro-locomotive is greater than all ..."
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jorge_vilarrubi		#4 Posted : 01 September 2005 22:10:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2003(UTC) Posts: 655 Location: Buenos Aires,		Daisy will update CVs in DCC mode only. If your decoder is DCC compatible, it will work. In addition, you can certainly alter the CVs with your MS and use the Lok with your Daisy. CV values are stored in the decoder, not in the digital system. Regards,
		Jorge Vilarrubí Buenos Aires ARGENTINA
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KjellAn		#5 Posted : 02 September 2005 00:55:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Sarpsborg, Norway		Thank you Jorge! The Märklin-decoder isn't DCC - but has almost the same options as it was a DCC ? Ok ? I then whould have to visit a friend with a MS to do the job - untill Uhlenbrock have made an upgrade off their digital stuff.
		Kjell Anderdal Märklin H0-K Digital / Uhlenbrock IB-IR/Daisy+Power3 / Norwegian+German epoch III+IV "The sound of an electro-locomotive is greater than all ..."
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perz		#6 Posted : 02 September 2005 01:00:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2002(UTC) Posts: 2,578 Location: Sweden		I guess it is possible to follow the same procedure as when programming with a 6021. See http://www.maerklin.de/faqdata/...en_mfx_Loks_mit_6021.pdf
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pa-pauls		#7 Posted : 03 September 2005 17:16:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Hmm, strange, is there a new decoder inside the 37478 ? In my 37475 & 37477, both E69's, this is not possible. Is it a new decoder because of the mfx system ?
		Pål Paulsen Märklin Spur 1 Digital, epoche 3
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KjellAn		#8 Posted : 06 September 2005 00:57:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Sarpsborg, Norway		Hey pa-pauls Have you seen in your instruction-manuals for the 37475 & 37477 if there are some options for the CV's as it is for the 37478? The web-site of http://www.maerklin.de/produkte/pdb/index.php or information given in the catalogs give no answer to the question of fx-decoder or mfx-decoder in these locomotives. Any other suggestions?
		Kjell Anderdal Märklin H0-K Digital / Uhlenbrock IB-IR/Daisy+Power3 / Norwegian+German epoch III+IV "The sound of an electro-locomotive is greater than all ..."
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Hemmerich		#9 Posted : 06 September 2005 15:02:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Hi Kjell, the decoder in this model is different from the previous ones and is programmable as documented; with an MS it's even easier. Regards, Lutz
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KjellAn		#10 Posted : 07 September 2005 00:58:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Sarpsborg, Norway		Thank you Lutz! I'll bring my locomotiv to a MS as soon as possible! And may be - Uhlenbrock will come up with something ... anytime ... [:I]
		Kjell Anderdal Märklin H0-K Digital / Uhlenbrock IB-IR/Daisy+Power3 / Norwegian+German epoch III+IV "The sound of an electro-locomotive is greater than all ..."
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Hemmerich		#11 Posted : 07 September 2005 17:45:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Please keep in mind that you'll not (yet) find this locomotive in the MS database. How this issue can be overcome is documented in the Märklin FAQ pages for the MS at http://www.maerklin.de/faq/ Simply use 36850; if you still have a 1.0 MS just use any other compatible "fit", for example 36330 in order to also change Vmax,Acc oder Dec. Regards, Lutz
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KjellAn		#12 Posted : 27 September 2005 20:52:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Sarpsborg, Norway		Hello I've just bought me a second-hand Mobile Station, and then all my problems were solved. Now, I've given the locomotive the name E 69-10. (This number is actually a fake number, but the modell has that number even if those E69's originally just was numbered from 01 to 05.) I also have set the 'Vmax', 'acc' and 'dec' according to my standards which is low top speed and low acc. and dec. - cause I like smooth running locomotives - and now it all work very vell with my Uhlenbrock Daisy Thanks for all good advises and help from this forum
		Kjell Anderdal Märklin H0-K Digital / Uhlenbrock IB-IR/Daisy+Power3 / Norwegian+German epoch III+IV "The sound of an electro-locomotive is greater than all ..."
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kgsjoqvist		#13 Posted : 28 September 2005 18:43:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 754 Location: Täby		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pa-pauls <br />Hmm, strange, is there a new decoder inside the 37478 ? In my 37475 & 37477, both E69's, this is not possible. Is it a new decoder because of the mfx system ? Yes and no! The new decoders have been introduced together with Märklin System, but can of course be used even in Märklin Digital. The difference is that all the new decoders are programmable without opening the loco. With Mobile Station and Central Station it is also much easier to change parameters. A small step closer to the standard DCC decoders, but Märklin doesn't follow the technical progress. They are in the lead of it... The MS and CS are certainly they most user-friendly controllers so far.
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rschaffr		#14 Posted : 28 September 2005 19:24:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,181 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		User friendly is a relative term. For those of us that like to use computer control, Marklin Systems is currently user-hostile. Also, my ESU handheld controller I've had for a year addresses loks by name and icon. It also does turnouts by description. As to being "cutting edge" they have embraced a 30 year old technology (ethernet) instead of designing for USB or Firewire, which would have surely been an advance.
		-Ron Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/CS3/6021Connect/60216051), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051) http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
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kgsjoqvist		#15 Posted : 29 September 2005 17:02:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 754 Location: Täby		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by rschaffr <br />User friendly is a relative term. For those of us that like to use computer control, Marklin Systems is currently user-hostile. Also, my ESU handheld controller I've had for a year addresses loks by name and icon. It also does turnouts by description. As to being "cutting edge" they have embraced a 30 year old technology (ethernet) instead of designing for USB or Firewire, which would have surely been an advance. I agree with you that Märklin System is hardly "cutting edge" technology, and there are other more tempting solutions on the market. But for the choice of computer interface I think they did the right thing to go for Ethernet. USB and Firewire have gone through changes over the past years, while Ethernet is an established standard. The equipment has to be useful with the new computer as well (and maybe the one that replaces it 10 years from now).
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