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Offline Tim Hale  
#1 Posted : 11 September 2004 16:12:30(UTC)
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This is on another website forum however.........

A rumour (no more than that) is that Trix/Maerklin plan a monstrous new model within the next two years. It will be bigger and more expensive than anything previously offered. The sheer size will dwarf any other model and it will incorporate every electronic gadget (and then some) that can be used. Full DCC control and over twelve independent micro-motors.

The model will be part of a three year package of associated equipment and buildings-it is rumoured that Heljan have been approached for moulding the building kits which will be sold as simplified items as part of the Walthers Cornerstone range.

The total cost of the package (over 24 items in total) is well in excess of 1500Eu and will offered only to the Maerklin Insider and Trix Profi Club, the entire production run is limited to just 1000 units.
Offline David Dewar  
#2 Posted : 11 September 2004 18:46:42(UTC)
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Does this mean I can use it for shopping etc and live in the houses with my family, cos at that price it would be the only way I can see my wife agreeing to the purchase.biggrin
Of course the credit card slip may go missing along with all the others.
David
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Offline Frostie  
#3 Posted : 12 September 2004 00:30:16(UTC)
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I believe that will be close to year 150 (1999) for Marklin and you can probably expect many goodies to come out at that time. I prefer to buy items that are of limited production for long term collector value. In my opinion the last time Marklin had a set similar to this upcoming series (what ever it is) was the Ludwig (2680) and the Wilhelm (2681) sets.

Both sets were arround $2k US and have extremely high quality.

Thanks for the info on the set and let us know as more tidbeys of information pop out !


I am going to start saving my pocket change. By 2007, I will have the money saved up !!!
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Offline xxup  
#4 Posted : 12 September 2004 02:50:11(UTC)
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Looks like they are planning an Insider club for the Insider club!

My guess is that very few of these will go directly to real Marklin customers. Instead they will end up on places like eBay with a 3,000 Euro starting price.. Some real life examples of this include the great herpa sets, the Porche sets... All of which I have seen WAY beyond the starting price..

I don't know why Marklin does this.. They can't make much out of it.. A limited run of 1,000 would be high cost - unless it was based on the castings from a high volume product... and the decent dealers don't make much either. Only the opportunists make the real money..
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Offline Tim Hale  
#5 Posted : 12 September 2004 02:51:39(UTC)
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Just a few more bits of information: This items is big and I mean huge. If you think that you know about Maerklin, try and recall what theme has been used for the past ten years by Maerklin. This realease will folow the same theme with buildings and infrastructure etc.

The fact that it will use 12 micro-motors, does not indicate that it will be a purely railway item, does it?

Tim

Offline Frostie  
#6 Posted : 12 September 2004 04:16:52(UTC)
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Tim thanks to your info and feel free to update me directly on your interesting info. I am an avid collector and have almost all of the Herpa sets. They are limited to 1,000, but have a tremendous long term collectors value because of being limited.

You do not have to be an insider - insider, but you do have to keep up with things. I use this website and others to keep up with Marklin on a daily basis.

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Offline jeehring  
#7 Posted : 12 September 2004 04:56:26(UTC)
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could it be trix and marklin ? Only dcc or both dcc motorola ?....I'm thinking about a big factory....something like a foundry... or special foundry where they are making pièces for trains... or may be a LOK factory......Why not a marble quarry with special cranes and small trains.....and.....and.....
I remenber , one time I've seen a scale model of an oil refinery....it was scratch buiding ( as unique model )....
Or special trains for tunnel digging....oh I remenber marklin has already made a scale model for some companies working in a Swiss tunnel.....( I forgott which one it is ; There is an article on one insider edition of the last two years)....
I give up......bye bye
Offline 7gauges  
#8 Posted : 12 September 2004 08:40:31(UTC)
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Yeah, another Zeppelin, and not the rail kind - I often wondered why the didn't motorize their last Zeppelin - maybe we can fill this one with Helium, or for the real adventurous - Hydrogen.
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Offline digilox1  
#9 Posted : 12 September 2004 10:26:29(UTC)
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Rutger Friberg installed a dcc controlled center offset mechanism in the 32-axle heavy load car.
Maybe...?

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Offline David Dewar  
#10 Posted : 12 September 2004 23:00:24(UTC)
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Maybe its the model of the Marklin factory with Preisers loading Mobile Stations on to trains and a nearby Post Office ready to send Insider Magazines all over the world. All with lighting and flushing toilets.
David
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Offline Tim Hale  
#11 Posted : 12 September 2004 23:27:53(UTC)
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Open cast lignite strip drag*

Just think about the concept, it follows on from the Ruhr-based theme from Maerklin/Trix of the past ten years. First sugar beet, then coal mines, then steel, the next logical Ruhr industry is lignite.

Heljan would make the briquette houses and Trix the railway infrastructure items. The whole operation would absolutely dominate a room, not just a layout. That is one huge white box to take home but i doubt if many individuals will buy it, the concept is aimed at clubs or the seriously wealthy. It will be approx. 1,2m tall and weigh over 50kg when the total assembly is complete. Do you have room?

However at 15,000Eu (I got the original figure wrong) this is a serious project that will co-incide with Maerklin's 150th. It is a statement by Maerklin that they are the true leaders of model railway technology (however Hornby's live steam A4 really did drop a few jaws at board level in Goppingen )


Tim

*All the clues were there.
Offline Webmaster  
#12 Posted : 13 September 2004 01:24:03(UTC)
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Those enourmous machines digging out "brown coal" in Germany are upsetting environmental activists all over Europe, since whole villages are moved or just "disappearing" for the interest of industrial "capitalism"... One example that has been in the papers is the village of Kernten, where the German national hero Michael Schumacher lived in his childhood...

I doubt Märklin will make a model of something that is so "hot" regarding public opinion. It would be very poor PR indeed, at least in Germany...
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Offline Frostie  
#13 Posted : 13 September 2004 03:21:33(UTC)
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There is an entire county in West Virginia that was destroyed by the Peabody Coal Company with an enormous dragline.

I was hoping for a complete set to complete a modern track laying / maintenance set with numerous yellow rail machines. You could really have an impressive set.

I agree with Juhan the idea of a monster dragline type for stripping terrain would not be something that would get my attention.

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Offline piglesias  
#14 Posted : 13 September 2004 03:50:50(UTC)
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No idea what M would plan for their 150th anniversary, but isn't that in 2009 and not 2007?
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Offline digilox1  
#15 Posted : 13 September 2004 08:49:54(UTC)
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Juhan,
Kerpen actually has 62.608 inhabitants. They hardly will displace that number of people... That`s still fairly impossible, even regarding the nature of capitalism.

Kerpen is the city, where Schumi was born and raised.

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Offline Gregor  
#16 Posted : 13 September 2004 14:22:31(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Tim Hale
<br />...The fact that it will use 12 micro-motors, does not indicate that it will be a purely railway item, does it?...

Since the moving pantographs I am dreaming about automatic passenger doors. 1 e-loc and 5 coaches with opening doors would need 12 piezo-motors...

Dreaming on...
Gregor
Offline xxup  
#17 Posted : 13 September 2004 23:40:44(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Gregor
<br />Since the moving pantographs I am dreaming about automatic passenger doors. ....


Oh yes!!!! And tipping wagons that tip.... [:p]

I was wondering it could be a faller car system and Marklin combo with a road section that crossed C-track (now that might move me off m-track!).. Cool
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Offline Webmaster  
#18 Posted : 14 September 2004 01:59:57(UTC)
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Kerpen it is regarding MS... My mistake...

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Offline john black  
#19 Posted : 14 September 2004 03:32:45(UTC)
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Wow - what a monster [:0] !!! Reminds me on that bad machine in "WILD, WILD WEST" (Will Smith, 1999) ... biggrin

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
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Offline xxup  
#20 Posted : 14 September 2004 12:31:19(UTC)
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Come and see the mining operations in Australia... The equipment that they use redefines big!

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Offline john black  
#21 Posted : 14 September 2004 15:33:35(UTC)
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Heard about it - must be HUGE biggrin

I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
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Offline Tim Hale  
#22 Posted : 14 September 2004 23:51:35(UTC)
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That is going to be one huge white box.

Tim
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#23 Posted : 10 April 2005 12:06:29(UTC)
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