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Mikael		#1 Posted : 06 April 2005 23:49:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 959 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		Hi. I know that M* has the two video-wagon sets (49940 and 49941), but they come with quite a pricetag attached to them. Browsing around on eBay, I found some tiny wireless videocameras, and most of them at a very attractive price too. Does any of you have any experience with those for model train use? Are they any good? I am very tempted to get one, just for the fun of it.
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stephenbb		#2 Posted : 07 April 2005 00:22:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		Can you give me more details on 49940. I'e never seen the item Stephen
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MärCo		#3 Posted : 07 April 2005 01:00:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,159 Location: The Netherlands		Visit http://www.ghz-link.com/global/index.html
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Mikael		#4 Posted : 07 April 2005 01:09:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 959 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		I don't have any information on the 49940, other than what I can find on the net. I seems to be the first version. It only worked on digital layouts. Then 49941 replaced it. The 49941 has its own battery, so it works on analog layouts as well.
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perz		#5 Posted : 07 April 2005 01:25:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2002(UTC) Posts: 2,578 Location: Sweden		Dr. König has done some tests, see http://home.arcor.de/dr.koenig/digital/video.htm
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Alberto Pedrini		#6 Posted : 07 April 2005 01:37:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy		I have got the 49940 two years ago after a visit in http://www.galleriabaumgartner.ch/ where i saw it on a layout. It work fine, and it don't need battery. Only the price is terrific.[:(] I tested the pin hole spy cameras, and they work very well too. You can find them on ebay, search pin hole, in hong kong sold for 15$
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Hans_Dietrich		#7 Posted : 07 April 2005 03:54:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/03/2002(UTC) Posts: 217 Location: ,		Hi! My wife gave me such a pinhole camera system. http://www.wirelessmicrocolorcam.com Here is the camera car. Still not finished. The camera is track powered. Here is a catured picture. The camera has also a microphone. The picture has a low resolution, but is is quite o.k. when watched on a monitor. Hans Edited by moderator 11 January 2011 16:32:47(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
		Hans ... Epoch I to V, M-track, IB with MS
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john black		#8 Posted : 07 April 2005 15:49:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Hans Dietrich: Very nice camera car, and picture really not that bad for just $15. That blue sphere in the back - diving equipment by Jaques Cousteau [:p] ? Best Regards John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Hans_Dietrich		#9 Posted : 07 April 2005 19:37:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/03/2002(UTC) Posts: 217 Location: ,		Hi! John: The sphere is part of the "octopus" ride made by Faller (I think). The camera system was probably more like $100. It came with the camera, a 9V battery adapter, a track power adapter, a receiver. The camera has a resolution rated at 380 lines. So watching the picture is best on a small TV or on a computer monitor choosing a small window size. Also a brightly lit room may help. Our layout is in the basement. But the camera is color and the microphone picks up the click-a-di-clack of the track and the sounds like the saw mill. It is kinda cute. Hans
		Hans ... Epoch I to V, M-track, IB with MS
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john black		#10 Posted : 07 April 2005 20:43:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hans_Dietrich <br />sphere is part of the "octopus" ride ... camera is color and the microphone picks up the click-a-di-clack of the track and the sounds like the saw mill Great [:p] - many thanks for information, Hans Dietrich! John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Mikael		#11 Posted : 08 April 2005 11:28:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 959 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		Well, I went ahead and got one. I am quite impressed with the image quality, given the extremely small size of the camera. Now I only need to find a way to mount it, so it can get around on the layout. Oh, and I need to finish my layout too
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Seetal		#12 Posted : 09 April 2005 05:05:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 548 Location: Maryland, USA		Hi all, Not sure if you know of this site, project Waldberg, but it is excellent. He has video soruced from the marklin video car and he now has a DIY (Do It Yourself) section on building a video car. No point id prviding more details since the site is so good I would be doing a disservice in trying to provide a summary. Here is the URL of the DIY video car description and a sample movie http://www.floodland.nl/...in/info/elektro_en_6.htm John
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Mikael		#13 Posted : 09 April 2005 11:42:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 959 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		I haven't seen it before, so thanks for mentioning it. It is very good. And I really enjoyed the video.
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Mikael		#14 Posted : 10 April 2005 19:34:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 959 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		I've had a bit of fun on my far from finished layout, and I am truly amazed at the performance of such a small camera. It does require some light, but not as much as I have feared. Unfortunately, I ran out of battery, so I had to use an external power supply for the camera. It isn't easy to control a train and an extension cord at the same time Anyway, here is a little glimpse of my first video-try: http://www.ejberg.dk/external/marklinusers/onboard.mpg (8 Mb)
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Hans_Dietrich		#15 Posted : 10 April 2005 23:36:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/03/2002(UTC) Posts: 217 Location: ,		Neat! Ain't it? Because I too ran out of battery power, having the video car with track power pick-up is very convenient. But the battery allows to put on and use the video car on any HO lay-out. Your camera has a good picture. Do you have sometimes interference (noise) with your signal even when running on battery. I suspect that this is caused by a little sparking from the loco at some spots on the tracks. Seems to happen mostly but not exclusively at switches. Hans
		Hans ... Epoch I to V, M-track, IB with MS
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rschaffr		#16 Posted : 10 April 2005 23:57:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		Hans: Is it possible to power it from the track?
		-Ron Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/CS3/6021Connect/60216051), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051) http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
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Mikael		#17 Posted : 11 April 2005 00:19:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 959 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		Yes, it is really neat. I think I need to make a track-powered setup, as it really eats up that battery in no time. And yes, it would seem that I have a bit of interference from time to time, but I haven't noticed if they are related to switches or not. The good picture quality comes from having enough light. I used a 500W lamp for the recordings.
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Hans_Dietrich		#18 Posted : 11 April 2005 01:35:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/03/2002(UTC) Posts: 217 Location: ,		Ron: The set I got included a power converter to convert AC/DC 16V track power to the 6V DC the camera uses. It is the piece with the blue capacitor shown in the video car picture. Mikael: I experienced about two hours of battery operation. After that the picture gets very grainy. 500W!! Yup, those CMOS cameras are inexpensive but need a bit of light to work well. Hans
		Hans ... Epoch I to V, M-track, IB with MS
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HueyCE		#19 Posted : 11 April 2005 03:23:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		Pretty cool. Ira
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Mikael		#20 Posted : 11 April 2005 10:55:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 959 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		The camera can work without the 500W light as well, just using the 75W bulb I normally use. The picture just gets a bit more grainy, and the colours aren't as nice. My camera acts somewhat different to low-battery conditions. The first sign is a continuous loud buzz in the audio (which is why I have removed the sound from the first scene in my video). Then the colours start to oversaturate in green and purple. And finally it says plop, and the picture gets black and white (but in high-quality).
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steventrain		#21 Posted : 01 May 2005 18:43:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,704 Location: United Kingdom		Thats cool
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Mikael		#22 Posted : 01 May 2005 19:42:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 959 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		I have just finished the work on making my camera track powered. I haven't tested it yet, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work.
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Hans_Dietrich		#23 Posted : 01 May 2005 23:37:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/03/2002(UTC) Posts: 217 Location: ,		Very nice! Did you make the power supply? Hans
		Hans ... Epoch I to V, M-track, IB with MS
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steventrain		#24 Posted : 01 May 2005 23:48:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,704 Location: United Kingdom		Keep trying to see work it.
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Mikael		#25 Posted : 02 May 2005 01:10:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 959 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		Yes, it is a homemade power supply. It is ugly, but it works fine.
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steventrain		#26 Posted : 02 May 2005 12:08:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,704 Location: United Kingdom		That's Great
		Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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HueyCE		#27 Posted : 02 May 2005 13:39:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		A track powered video camera, a poor man's speedometer...a very creative week it seems. Ira
		Building German Era I-II layout(Mk IIIc).
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