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prc		#1 Posted : 19 March 2005 00:20:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 283 Location: Granby, Ct		Has anyone heard if Marklin has any plans to sell passenger cars for the PRR GG1?
		Paul Granby, Ct. USA
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hmsfix		#2 Posted : 19 March 2005 00:45:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,383 Location: Darmstadt,		Hi Paul, That's my question, too. As I see it, you and me (when GG1 comes) have only the following options: 1. Pull PRR freight trains, 2. Pull the California Zephyr with the GG1 (I pull the California Zephyr with UP loks, hope no hard core railroader will ever see that), 3. Pull non-M* PRR passenger cars. 4. Pull another GG1 (double traction) I have already asked that my local M* dealer what to do. He recommended option #4. Regards Hans Martin
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jonquinn		#3 Posted : 19 March 2005 05:13:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		I would go for the Intermountain heavyweight PRR passenger cars. I think they are prototypically correct. They are common on ebay, and any good model RR shop should carry them I would bet. I would keep the knuckle style couplers too.
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PierreGILLARD		#4 Posted : 19 March 2005 16:28:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Hello, Does anyone already tried Intermountain coaches on Märklin rails ? What about the RP25 wheels ? Are there compatible Märklin or Roco AC wheels ? I reproduce hereafter some information that I posted on a previous GG1 related topic : On the other hand, for those who would like to haul passenger trains with their future Marklin PRR GG-1 ( if it can be fitted with Kadee couplers of course ! ), Intermountain Railway is manufacturing PRR coaches and baggage cars : http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/85-4530 http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/85-4531 http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/85-5000 http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/85-5001 I usually like Intermountain's freight cars for their high quality but I never "tried" nor converted their passenger cars. Pierre.
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Hans_Dietrich		#5 Posted : 20 March 2005 20:10:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/03/2002(UTC) Posts: 217 Location: ,		Hi! In my experience, if I want to run cars securly, there is no other choice but to replace the RP 25 wheels with AC wheels. I bought Mehano AC wheels. More specificly: The switches are the biggest problem. - RP 25 wheels do not well on M-track, but I have heard that C-track is better because of the square track profile. Adding longer counter rails to the switches helps. - The bigger the RP 25 wheels, the better they run. I have Rivarossi cars with RP 25 and they do fine. - Cheap plastic RP 25 do better the prototypical metal ones because the plastic ones have often wider rims. In the end only AC wheels gave a satisfactory running result on M-track. Hope it helps ... Hans
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laalves		#6 Posted : 21 March 2005 00:15:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		I have no problem with RP25, even small wheels (such as in a Kato RSC-2 I converted to 3-rail) in any C track piece. Luis
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PierreGILLARD		#7 Posted : 21 March 2005 05:36:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		All RP25 fitted cars ( Athearn, Intermountain, Proto ... ) have derailled on my C-Track turnouts. So that is the reason why I convert US cars with Märklin and Roco AC wheels. No problems anymore ... Pierre.
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GDamen		#8 Posted : 23 March 2005 22:29:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Siegerswoude, Friesland		The solution for stopping DC-wheelsets to derail on the points of C and K-track switches is adding a thin piece a plastic. I used a transparent frontsheet commonly found with brochures. Cut a small strip and glue it to the opposite gaurdrail. It's just enough to compensate the 0,2 mm difference between AC and DC wheelsets. The photo a already modified guardrail and the tool holds an example of the strip used. Gino
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verheyen		#9 Posted : 24 March 2005 00:05:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 639 Location: ,		VERY NICE ballasting. I'd love to see more pictures of your layout. p. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by GDamen Gino
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Charlie		#10 Posted : 24 March 2005 01:55:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 707 Location: Texas, USA		Paul, To get back to your question: Has anyone heard if Marklin has any plans to sell passenger cars for the PRR GG1? I would not be surprised if we will see the cars in Z-scale this year, and in H0 next year. Charlie.
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GDamen		#11 Posted : 25 March 2005 21:47:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 48 Location: Siegerswoude, Friesland		Peter, Have a look at my website. It's stil in Dutch, but the item you need to click on is "Modelspoor" and after that "Module". This leads to the page from which you can reach the current availible modulepages. The next link is a direct link to one of those pages in which you see the construction of a stub module for the station. It's shows all the phase, from the bare wood to the complete module. http:\\home.hccnet.nl\g.damen\m_mod_kop.html An photo of the finished module: Gino
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JeffVT		#12 Posted : 25 March 2005 22:23:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 72 Location: Shelburne VT		I've been reading this site for a while but just registered. Based on some early Amtrak brochures that I have, the GG-1 did pull Amtrak long distance coaches on the various Florida trains and the Broadway Limited itself. Of course the Marklin dome car would never fit in the Eastern Corridor tunnels, and I don't believe that Amtrak made much use of round-end observation cars either. Having #4935 running in "Pennsy" colors with Amtrak equipment is correct because it was restored to Pennsy livery in 1977, six years after Amtrak took over the US long distance passenger trains. NJ Transit, the New Jersey commuter train operator, also used GG-1s to pull coaches obtained from western US railroads; they were never repainted. Thus, you could use the Santa Fe coaches behind the GG-1 as long as the train was headed to South Amboy!
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Munich 1860		#13 Posted : 26 March 2005 01:37:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,062 Location: Neu-Ulm, Bavaria		Welcome to the forum, Jeff !! Johann
		I like M-track and my things that run on it were built between 1959 and 1972.
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PierreGILLARD		#14 Posted : 26 March 2005 02:38:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Hello Jeff ! Welcome on this forum and many thanks for your very precise information. Pierre.
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HueyCE		#15 Posted : 26 March 2005 03:28:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		Welcome to the forum Jeff. Ira
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john black		#16 Posted : 26 March 2005 10:43:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Hi Jeff, welcome to The Forum and thanks for your great information. John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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prc		#17 Posted : 27 March 2005 19:48:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 283 Location: Granby, Ct		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by JeffVT <br /> also used GG-1s to pull coaches obtained from western US railroads; they were never repainted. Thus, you could use the Santa Fe coaches behind the GG-1 as long as the train was headed to South Amboy! Welcome Jeff, thanks for the history of the GG-1. Actually I did just that, I ordered three of the SF coaches, South Amboy, here I come! I would like to think that Marklin will be coming out with PRR coaches in the future.
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rschaffr		#18 Posted : 27 March 2005 20:26:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		They have a real GG-1 at the PRR museum in Strasburg, PA. Worth a visit if you are in the area.
		-Ron Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/CS3/6021Connect/60216051), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051) http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
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PierreGILLARD		#19 Posted : 28 March 2005 02:28:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Here she is : http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=95448 Other pictures on http://www.railpictures.net Pierre.
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rschaffr		#20 Posted : 28 March 2005 02:53:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		Yep..that's her. She is now inside out of the weather in a new museum building, though.
		-Ron Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/CS3/6021Connect/60216051), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051) http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
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Sander van Wijk		#21 Posted : 28 March 2005 14:10:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Nice pictures, always nice to see pictures of the original models!
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john black		#22 Posted : 29 March 2005 12:58:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by rschaffr <br />She is now inside out of the weather in a new museum building, though Ron - such is good to hear [^] John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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JeffVT		#23 Posted : 31 March 2005 05:56:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 72 Location: Shelburne VT		Actually, quite a few GG-1s have been preserved so there are many places in the US where they can be visited. I guess we in the States finally learned our lesson after letting so many steam locos go to scrap. Here's a site with quite a few photos of preserved GG-1s in different locations around the US: http://www.hebners.net/amtrak/amtGG1.html You can also see GG-1s at their ugliest, in the black paint used by Penn Central (immediate successor to Pennsylvania RR) and Amtrak. One of my favorites is under the trainshed at Amtrak's Harrisburg PA station; this was the western limit for passenger GG-1s. The steel trainshed has a European feel to it. The GG-1 is right at home here though in the company of a preserved caboose. The trains were exchanged for steam or diesel power at this point. Freight GG-1s operated a few miles farther west, to the Enola Yard but the wires stopped at that point.
		Jeff
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steventrain		#24 Posted : 31 March 2005 20:56:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,710 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by GDamen <br />The solution for stopping DC-wheelsets to derail on the points of C and K-track switches is adding a thin piece a plastic. I used a transparent frontsheet commonly found with brochures. Cut a small strip and glue it to the opposite gaurdrail. It's just enough to compensate the 0,2 mm difference between AC and DC wheelsets. The photo a already modified guardrail and the tool holds an example of the strip used. Gino VERY GOOD BALLASTS[8)]
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