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Offline Sam  
#1 Posted : 07 February 2005 00:07:34(UTC)
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hi,

I was wondering, as I ran into a person the other day who claimed to use regular automotive silicone spray as a lube for his model trains..

Has anyone heard of this, or experimented with it? Seems like it would be hard to place a small amount on the gears and wheels without overspraying.

On the otherhand, silicone spray is a pretty clean lubricant..

your thoughts?

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Offline Webmaster  
#2 Posted : 07 February 2005 00:14:18(UTC)
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I use it sometimes, works ok since it penetrates well - but it doesn't last as long as heavier oil. When used from a spray can, most of the fluid substance evaporates so you have to do a couple of sprays to make it last for at least a while. A spray nozzle pipe is a must, otherwise you will get it all over the place... But it works...

Most of what comes out of the can is solvent, and the oil itself is a minor part of it all, hence the recommendation to do it more than once, in moderate portions...
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Offline Sam  
#3 Posted : 07 February 2005 05:15:44(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Webmaster
<br />I use it sometimes, works ok since it penetrates well - but it doesn't last as long as heavier oil. When used from a spray can, most of the fluid substance evaporates so you have to do a couple of sprays to make it last for at least a while. A spray nozzle pipe is a must, otherwise you will get it all over the place... But it works...

Most of what comes out of the can is solvent, and the oil itself is a minor part of it all, hence the recommendation to do it more than once, in moderate portions...


great! so let me understand you correctly... Useing a spray tube, just spray a liberal amount over the gear train and around the poles and motor? Do the same for the wheels on the rolling stock, and do it about every 10-20 hours of use? sound right?

I just thought about this, but the silicone spray may also be good for the rubber parts of the train, such as the traction tires.. no?
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Offline Webmaster  
#4 Posted : 07 February 2005 08:49:03(UTC)
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No, moderate doses several times at the lubrication points... Not all over!!!
Keep it away from the rubber!!!

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Offline xxup  
#5 Posted : 07 February 2005 10:45:46(UTC)
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I would use silicone on a metal/plastic combination, like the axle shafts on wagons, but only to solve a squeak problem.. I would not use it for anything else and certainly not metal on metal or gear lubrication..

I use it on my electric roller garage door.. Does terrible things to paint - not like brake fluid, but when you go to sand it back an repaint it causes an orange peel type finish...
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Offline daveblackburn  
#6 Posted : 07 February 2005 18:30:31(UTC)
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Yeah, if you ever try to paint anything (or varnish, DullCote, GlossCote, MediumCote, whatever) that has been siliconed you'll have a terrible time. so if you want to use silicone lubricants, don't do it in the same place you will be finishing models, painting scenery, weathering, etc. And if you overdo it it will get all over the tracks....
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Offline Sam  
#7 Posted : 07 February 2005 18:47:26(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Webmaster
<br />No, moderate doses several times at the lubrication points... Not all over!!!
Keep it away from the rubber!!!




Odd, I had heard that silicone spray is good to preserve rubber and keep it from cracking (I live in very dry heat)... Hell I've even sprayed it on the serpentine belt on my XC90 Volvo! What have you heard?

Anyway, I'll take your advice on the dose.. try it on one of my locs, and keep the others on the normal marklin oil and see how they differ.. seems like the silicone is cleaner, but one does get lots of mixed opinions on this subject.
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Offline Tamrac  
#8 Posted : 09 February 2005 00:04:21(UTC)
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I don't think the issue is that it will damage the rubber. But applying any type of lubricant to traction tires , would seem to be a contradiction biggrin
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Offline Sam  
#9 Posted : 09 February 2005 06:39:43(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Tamrac
<br />I don't think the issue is that it will damage the rubber. But applying any type of lubricant to traction tires , would seem to be a contradiction biggrin


Point well taken, however I got the impression that the silicone spray was absorbed into the rubber and kept it soft... but frankly it's a silly idea now that I think about it, since new tires for these locs cost a few bucks..
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