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Offline luckas  
#1 Posted : 19 July 2004 05:45:07(UTC)
luckas


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Hi,

I'm scattering some ballast / coal in and around my turntable and engine yard, and gluing using the eyedropper / diluted PVA method (using Woodlands Scenic Glue). I must admit I'm less than impressed with the 'holding' power of this method even after repeated applications of glue. I'm using a reasonably free following dilution, with a drop of detergent so penetration is not an issue. Is there a method to 'seal' that last bit of surface rubble using some sort of eyedropper technique that I'm not aware of - or is patience and reapplication the norm (I'm going through a lot of Scenic Glue)?

Thanks,

Paul
Offline Timaximus  
#2 Posted : 19 July 2004 10:29:37(UTC)
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Hi,

I use Wood Glue to glue almost everything. You have a lot of qualities in it but I just use the ordinary one from Bison. Of course in Australia you have other brands. The great benefit of wood glue is that it gets transparent when it dries up. To make sure the last ballast or coal will stick on the surface I use a lot of glue. And that is not a problem because of the big bottles of wood glue you can buy. Which are is not as expensive as the "special" scenery glues.

Tip: if you need to glue decoration powders on mountains or other not flat surfaces you can ad some water and a drip of dish-washing to make the wood glue more flowing (make it thinner). After is dries up it become transparent and the decoration powder will stick like …

On flat (horizontal) surfaces you don’t need to thinner the wood glue.
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Offline dikken  
#3 Posted : 19 July 2004 14:57:17(UTC)
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I use the same method as timaximus:
50 % woodglue
50 % water
a couple drops of dishwashing soap to bring down the surface tension!

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Offline rugauger  
#4 Posted : 20 July 2004 15:18:18(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by dikken
<br />I use the same method as timaximus:
50 % woodglue
50 % water
a couple drops of dishwashing soap to bring down the surface tension!
...and that works for me, too. Plenty of glue is the clue biggrin
Richard
Offline xxup  
#5 Posted : 20 July 2004 15:29:51(UTC)
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PVA = A white wood glue that dries clear.

Paul - Why the woodland scenics glue and not normal PVA (like from Mitre 10)?
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Offline luckas  
#6 Posted : 20 July 2004 15:37:42(UTC)
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Good question. I tried some Aquadhere and was concerned about the 'glossiness' of the dried glue. The Scenics seems to dry very flat - and I thought I would only need a little so was happy to make the one off purchase (I'm only gluing some scatter rubble - not fully blown ballast). As it turns out, I'm using a lot more glue than I thought I'd need to to completely eradicate any loose rock in several applications - so I might well go back to the cheap PVA option.

Thanks,

Paul


Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by xxup
<br />
PVA = A white wood glue that dries clear.

Paul - Why the woodland scenics glue and not normal PVA (like from Mitre 10)?
Offline David Dewar  
#7 Posted : 20 July 2004 22:06:55(UTC)
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Glue I would have though is cheap compared with other senics. I usually spread glue on the ground then pour on scatter. To finally fix everthing in place you can use some of the spray glue to hold small parts in place. Maybe not very professional but it seems to work well for me.
David
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