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trainbuff		#1 Posted : 15 December 2007 19:28:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 507 Location: Atlanta, Georgia		Hi, What was the purpose of the cab in the tender of the Br 50s? Thanks
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DaleSchultz		#2 Posted : 15 December 2007 19:58:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 3,997		I think it held bunk beds for a second crew team to sleep in while the second team worked..
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H0		#3 Posted : 15 December 2007 21:31:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,267 Location: DE-NW		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by trainbuff <br />Hi, What was the purpose of the cab in the tender of the Br 50s? This was the cab for the chief of the train - thus they didn't need a separate Pwg car to go with every train.
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intruder		#4 Posted : 16 December 2007 02:03:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Was the cab tender only used with Br50?
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trainbuff		#5 Posted : 16 December 2007 03:11:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 507 Location: Atlanta, Georgia		How much was fuel capacity changed by adding the cab to the tender? Maybe in later years these engines didn't go as far? I think I read the cabins were installed in the 60's.
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intruder		#6 Posted : 16 December 2007 04:16:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		37840 Br50 cabin tender "2'2'T26 KAB" = 26 m3 water, 6,6 tons of coal A normal "2'2'T26" tender had 26 m3 water and 8 tons of coal. See http://www-personal.umich.edu/~...locomotive%20tenders.htm
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al_pignolo		#7 Posted : 16 December 2007 10:20:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 904 Location: bologna, BO		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by h-zero <br /> This was the cab for the chief of the train - thus they didn't need a separate Pwg car to go with every train. This is because with steam goods train the pwg car was necessary, isn't it? That means whe should add a pwg in every goods train pulled by a steam loco?
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steventrain		#8 Posted : 16 December 2007 13:23:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder <br />Was the cab tender only used with Br50? Yes, the BR50 have only Cab Tender, No other class have it.
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H0		#9 Posted : 16 December 2007 23:45:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,267 Location: DE-NW		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by al_pignolo <br />That means whe should add a pwg in every goods train pulled by a steam loco? Interesting question - had to check a book to answer it. It's prototypical to include a Pwg in Era I & II and even in Era III (up to the '60s) - as you say for steam trains. Austrian ÖBB also had cab tenders - AFAIR they modified the "Wannentender" of some BR 52 locos with a cab.
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intruder		#10 Posted : 17 December 2007 03:20:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		You are right, Tom. Märklin 3416 (1995-1996) and 83416 (1995).
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klinge-germany		#11 Posted : 19 December 2007 12:16:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 260 Location: Hamburg,		the PWG is typical for freight trains up to the 60's, as Tom said, and the position of the PWG within the train is normally just behind the loco and not at the end of the train (like the cabooses in north america). nearly all pictures of model trains supplied by mother M (f.e. at the side of starter packs) show it at the end of the train.... alfred
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Troy Yang		#12 Posted : 19 December 2007 14:15:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2003(UTC) Posts: 356 Location: San Francisco, California USA		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder <br />Was the cab tender only used with Br50? Yes, the BR50 have only Cab Tender, No other class have it. The Austrian version of the BR52 (34??) made by Marklin has a cab tender too.
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klinge-germany		#13 Posted : 19 December 2007 17:04:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 260 Location: Hamburg,		it was the 3416 produced in 1995 , austrian class 52 with cabin tender on the base of a 'wannentender' (don't know the english word for it, sorry), the same kind of tneder first produced by M for class 38 in the late 60's (3098). alfred
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