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Offline Frostie  
#1 Posted : 31 March 2006 05:01:33(UTC)
Frostie

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I have a question for the digital Gurus out there. Would it be possible to retrofit the decoder on the 36847 locomotive.

Then is it possible to obtain sound files from the website and then set them up in the decoder. So I could load Tweety. Daffy, Bugs etc signature sayings into the decoder and execute the sounds at will.


Wouldn't that be cool, and a great idea for the grand kids !!

Could you do it with a lok programmer ??? Or How could you do it ?
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Offline rschaffr  
#2 Posted : 31 March 2006 07:02:10(UTC)
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I have not tried it with my lokprogrammer, but you can upload sounds, assign them to sound slots and link the sound slots to a funtion.
-Ron
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Offline Tdl  
#3 Posted : 31 March 2006 15:28:23(UTC)
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Frostie,

ESU Lok programmer allows you to do that. I have compiled some song fragments and one liners and loaded these on a sound decoder in the Theathercouch Dortmund model. Also added light effects that are connected to the illumination functions of the decoder.
Don't know which decoder is mounted in your locomotive. Suggest to use a LS3 decoder. It allows to record much longer samples than LS2 and has an additional illumination function (In total 4). Have fun.
Offline Charlie  
#4 Posted : 31 March 2006 17:54:42(UTC)
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Frostie, that is an excellent idea! Now why did Marklin not come up with that?

When the loco stops, we can make it say "That's all folks!" [:o)]

Email me the sounds that you want, and I will take care of it!

Charlie wink
Offline stephenbb  
#5 Posted : 31 March 2006 18:50:48(UTC)
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Frostie great idea. Marklin may have had copywrite issues for toons sound downloads.
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Offline Frostie  
#6 Posted : 31 March 2006 18:57:05(UTC)
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OK Guys ! tell me what sounds we should program into it.

This will be a test for what Charlie can do.



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Offline plutoodie  
#7 Posted : 01 April 2006 10:03:06(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Charlie
<br />Frostie, that is an excellent idea! Now why did Marklin not come up with that?

When the loco stops, we can make it say "That's all folks!" [:o)]

Email me the sounds that you want, and I will take care of it!

Charlie wink


I suggest the following sounds:

Stop: "That's all folks!"
Horn 1: "What's up doc?"
Horn 2: Some explosion from Wild'E'Coyotie - or the "meep, meep" sound from the bird he tries to catch...
Horn 3: There must be a "wooosh" sound or explosion
Engine: This is the tricky one - what should the engine sound be? Any ideas?
HHJJ
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Offline plutoodie  
#8 Posted : 01 April 2006 10:18:58(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Charlie
<br />Frostie, that is an excellent idea! Now why did Marklin not come up with that?

When the loco stops, we can make it say "That's all folks!" [:o)]

Email me the sounds that you want, and I will take care of it!

Charlie wink



I suggest the following sounds:

Stop: "That's all folks!"
Horn 1: "What's up doc?"
Horn 2: Some explosion from Wild'E'Coyotie - or the "meep, meep" sound from the bird he tries to catch...
Horn 3: There must be a "wooosh" sound or explosion
Engine: This is the tricky one - what should the engine sound be? Any ideas?



Hey - I just found an interesting Looney Tunes sound site: http://www.nonstick.com/sounds

Just press on one of the characters to the right ;-) The following are good:

Bugs: "Neeh, what's up, doc"
Daffy: "Mmmuahahahahah" and "Didn't think I could do it, did ya"
Road runner: "Beep Beep" and "Beep beep (2)"
Sylvester: "Aaahhhh, shaddap!"
Taz: "Tasmanian Devil (3)" - this one even contains parts that can be used for the engine???
Porky: "That's All Folks"
HHJJ
Bo Jensen
Offline steventrain  
#9 Posted : 01 April 2006 10:40:24(UTC)
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Very nice sound.
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Offline xxup  
#10 Posted : 01 April 2006 12:57:37(UTC)
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The canoe came in and we picked up our looney tunes loco today... I put it on the roller stand and it drove off the stand - its a 8WD!!!

Definatelty the Road Runner "Beep Beep" for the horn..

"Dats Despickable" from Daffy Duck

Yeah - Taz as the engine noise...

"Where's dat varmit Rabbit" when the telex couplers are activated..

Ooooohhhh - where do I pay my money - Miss 6 will love to have sounds in the Loco....


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Offline Frostie  
#11 Posted : 01 April 2006 15:21:36(UTC)
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Guye this is going to be fun, and I cannot wait to se what we can do. I have been listening to sound files and it is going to be fun to see where this comes out.

So for once the locomotive has arrived in Australia before it hits the US. I have not seen on ebay. Has it appeared there yet ??

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Offline Seetal  
#12 Posted : 01 April 2006 19:52:04(UTC)
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I agree with Adrian about the engine sound, it has to be Taz. I have also used that track when my computer starts up instead of the default Windows tune.

John
Offline mmervine  
#13 Posted : 16 April 2006 01:29:56(UTC)
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Lutz: Do you know the Trix part number for the board?
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Offline xxup  
#14 Posted : 16 April 2006 03:02:05(UTC)
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Okay - enough talk... Who's gonna put this one in production for us??? I have (some) money and a very excited Miss 6...
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Offline mmervine  
#15 Posted : 16 April 2006 19:41:21(UTC)
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Thanks! I am going to try to get a few to convert my hobby Loks.

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Offline xxup  
#16 Posted : 17 April 2006 02:48:28(UTC)
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Call me thick, but I still don't understand what the 611654 does for adding sounds... ????? Will I need one of these when Charlie offers the Looney sound upgrade??

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Offline mmervine  
#17 Posted : 17 April 2006 04:23:42(UTC)
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Adrian:

It makes the conversion a little easier. The lights on this loco are leds connected on a flexible connector strip. The Trix board allows and easy way to connect the lights back up and a socket for the installation of the sound decoder. Note that these engines have a spot for a speaker in the underframe. It can be done without the Trix board, but this is a neater solution.

r/mark
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Offline xxup  
#18 Posted : 17 April 2006 05:59:55(UTC)
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Thanks - now it make sense.. After I pay for the fire engine set and a squillion other things - I will order one of those too...
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Offline mmervine  
#19 Posted : 09 June 2006 05:44:43(UTC)
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Lutz:

I have been able to obtain the Trix board for this conversion. I assume that the one red and the two brown wires get re-connected in the exact same place on the Trix board as the Marklin board?

r/markconfused

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Offline Vardex  
#20 Posted : 11 June 2006 16:53:58(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine
<br />Lutz:

I have been able to obtain the Trix board for this conversion. I assume that the one red and the two brown wires get re-connected in the exact same place on the Trix board as the Marklin board?

r/markconfused




Why don't you buy a trix loks and put a pickup-shoe under it. Seems cheaper to me,since you don't need the decoder anyway.

Bart
Offline Bob R  
#21 Posted : 18 September 2006 02:22:08(UTC)
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Hi Lutz,

One quick question. Which Decoder did you use exactly? Are you still happy with it?

Thanks,
Bob
Offline Goofy  
#22 Posted : 08 January 2007 19:30:43(UTC)
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What about this sound:"I will be back...!" biggrin

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Offline DamonKelly  
#23 Posted : 21 October 2007 13:45:27(UTC)
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Thanks for the info Lutz.

I've fitted the PCB, and installed an ESU LP mfx - very easy installation!

What speaker is the mount underneath the loco designed for? The standard 23mm in the ESU LS mfx is too large. I've ordered an ESU 20mm unit.
Do Märklin specify a speaker?

Cheers,
Damon
Offline DamonKelly  
#24 Posted : 21 October 2007 17:12:38(UTC)
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After doing a bit of research (which I should have done before [:I]), I notice that the 6083x series kits include a 22mm speaker.
I just dusted off my Vernier calipers, and -- guess what -- the mount appears to be 22mm ø. [:I][:I]

Is the Märklin 22mm speaker available as a seperate part, and what is its part number?
Cheers,
Damon
Offline DamonKelly  
#25 Posted : 24 October 2007 16:24:54(UTC)
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Sorry Lutz, and averyone else...[:I]

I had a "Momentary Brain Fade" there.

Of course, the actual mounting hole is for a 20mm speaker, and both Märklin (#508612) and ESU (#50441) make 20mm speakers...

I assume the ESU 50441 is a suitable substitute?

Cheers,
Damon
Offline DamonKelly  
#26 Posted : 08 June 2008 11:21:12(UTC)
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OK finally got around to doing this.

One silly question -- which way up does the speaker go?
Should the the voice coil or the diaphragm face into the cavity?

I assume the voice coil faces in, and the diaphragm faces out...
Cheers,
Damon
Offline pa-pauls  
#27 Posted : 08 June 2008 13:03:45(UTC)
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Hi Damon Smile
Look at the photo above from Lutz and there you see which way the speaker is mounted wink
PS !
100 Ohm 20mm speaker from Märklin has part number #100622 (ESU 50441 is also 100 Ohm 20mm)
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Offline DamonKelly  
#28 Posted : 08 June 2008 16:25:07(UTC)
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Pål,
Yes, thanks for pointing that out! wink

I was carried away with the ETE article, where the photo was somewhat unclear, and forgot to check Lutz's photos [:I]

I independently figured out that the voice coil goes outwards, since the retaining bracket has a suitably placed stud to press against it.

In this installation (with an ESU 50441 speaker), there is no need for grinding, since the wires pass across the back of the speaker and through the channel without fouling the bracket. This applies to #36890, anyway...

The sound is good. I might experiment with some alternative sounds suggested in <s>another</s> this thread... (BR218)
Cheers,
Damon
Offline cjh26  
#29 Posted : 08 June 2008 16:29:17(UTC)
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AJCKIDS Offers a Decoder of the Looney Tunes Engine. They will install it as well it has the Warner Sounds in it already. It works real well.
Carl
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