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Offline Drongo  
#1 Posted : 30 July 2008 04:24:05(UTC)
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I hope this question isn't silly, however, can one use 2 CS's on one layout ? This way I could have one MS attached to the 2 CS's nd then be able to control 6 locos at the same time. biggrinconfusedconfused
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Offline Harvey  
#2 Posted : 30 July 2008 05:01:08(UTC)
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I can not give a complete answer: Since each CS is providing power, you need to isolate (insolate) sections of track. Not sure what cables are needed for them to exchange information. The CS can control many locs but does require calling each one up. So, one CS can actively control 2 locs and then call up others and activate them. Sounds like you want to have 6 pair of hands working locs at same time. Certainly others will provide ideas to have multiple sets of hands and what is needed.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#3 Posted : 30 July 2008 10:13:55(UTC)
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Greg, at this time you cannot connect 2 CS units together, and the only way you could have 2 CS controlling a layout is if they are electrically isolated from each other, i.e. each CS controls half of the layout each. However, the passing of control of a locomotive from 1 CS to another would not be possible.

You would be better off with a single CS connected to a PC running train control software such as LocCommander, from which you can control as many locos as you can physically display on your PC monitor.

http://users.telenet.be/loccommander/
Offline steventrain  
#4 Posted : 30 July 2008 12:04:42(UTC)
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Only one CS per layout. You need some Mobile station(s) connect to CS.
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Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 30 July 2008 14:02:50(UTC)
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Another way:
It should also work to have one CS ("slave") connected to the sniffer port of another CS ("master").
I presume you can only use the slave CS with MM protocol so your limited to 255 addresses with 5 functions each. You can only control locos that have a sniffer address configured on the master CS.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#6 Posted : 30 July 2008 14:56:32(UTC)
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Good point Tom. Can you switch solenoids from the 'slave' CS as well?

I think the sniffer is limited to 80 addresses, for use with the 6021.
Offline H0  
#7 Posted : 30 July 2008 18:51:52(UTC)
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I ne'er tested the sniffer, but the GUI allows addresses up to 9999 IIRC.
I think the sniffer was designed to support all Märklin Digital boxes, so solenoids should work, too.
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Offline dntower85  
#8 Posted : 30 July 2008 18:54:15(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich
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it can always contain of multiple sections, where every section still has to be isolated from each other as well in digital operation if powered by another source. wink



Isolating the center rail is obvious but, would you need to isolate the ground as well and not make a common ground on the transformer?
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Offline clapcott  
#9 Posted : 30 July 2008 23:55:30(UTC)
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Your better option is to have multiple MSs as throttles using a single CS as command station for the layout.
Redirect the money for a 2nd CS into boosters.

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Offline H0  
#10 Posted : 31 July 2008 00:49:14(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by dntower85
<br />Isolating the center rail is obvious but, would you need to isolate the ground as well and not make a common ground on the transformer?

No common ground with transformers for MS or CS.

No problem having common ground on the track. But I'd use a rocker on the center rail; you could also use a switchable section between the two CS.
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Offline Drongo  
#11 Posted : 31 July 2008 02:46:20(UTC)
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Thanks fellas, that really is great help. Very much appreciated.
The summary as I would handle the situation, is to adopt the simpler approach and that is to have one CS a with muliple MS's and hook it all up to a PC. This was my original thought, however, I thought it was worth a shot with 2 CS's, but the isolation feature would degrade the "working layout", i.e. not as exciting as trains crossing in front of each other with one hand hovering over the emergency stop !!!!! Also, with the 1 CS & many Cs's it would be cheaper, i.e. expensive instead of exorbitant biggrin. The only thing left is to "hide" the costs from the "trouble & strife" (wife") [:I]
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