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Offline vilithejou  
#1 Posted : 21 September 2013 15:49:45(UTC)
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Hi

Link to shop with the news

it's a fake???

Lets see

P.D. information from stummi forum

Edited by user 24 September 2013 06:35:49(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline foumaro  
#2 Posted : 21 September 2013 16:41:53(UTC)
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Great choise,i hope it ii became reality.Love
Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 21 September 2013 16:55:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
it's a fake???
Märklin has an explosion diagram for that loco on their site (showing four powered axles and four traction tyres).

So it's very likely that the E 93 will come - Insider or Outsider or whatever.
Regards
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Offline Goofy  
#4 Posted : 21 September 2013 17:29:15(UTC)
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Well...
A danish hobby store did confirm this too and some of the wagon sets too via facebook.
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Offline steventrain  
#5 Posted : 21 September 2013 18:08:34(UTC)
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37870 is on lokshop website.


Insider 2014.

INSIDER E-Lok E93 DB Ep.III H0/WS DIGITAL SOUND - 37870
NUR MIT BESTELLSCHEIN BESTELLSCHLUSS 31.03.2014
Güterzug-Elektrolokomotive Baureihe E 93, DB
Vorbild: Schwere Güterzug-Elektrolokomotive Baureihe E 93 07 der Deutschen Bundesbahn (DB). Flaschengrüne Grundfarbgebung. Betriebszustand um 1960. Modell: Mit Digital-Decoder mfx und umfangreichen Geräuschfunktionen. Geregelter Hochleistungs-antrieb mit Schwungmasse, zentral eingebaut. Jeweils 2 Achsen in jedem Treibgestell über Kardan angetrieben. Fahrtrichtungsabhängig wechselndes Dreilicht-Spitzensignal und zwei rote Schlusslichter konventionell in Betrieb, digital schaltbar. Spitzensignal an Lokseite 2 und 1 jeweils digital separat abschaltbar. Wenn Spitzensignal an beiden Lokseiten abgeschaltet ist, dann beidseitige Funktion des Doppel-A-Lichtes. Zusätzlich kann die Führerstands-beleuchtung digital geschaltet werden. Beleuchtung mit wartungsfreien warmweißen und roten Leuchtdioden (LED). Führerstände und Maschinenraum mit Relief-Inneneinrichtung. Ansteckbare Bremsschläuche und Kupplungshaken liegen separat bei. LüP 20,3 cm.
UVP 349,95 EUR

INSIDER Wagen-Set 1 zur E93 DB H0/WS - 46199
NUR MIT BESTELLSCHEIN BESTELLSCHLUSS 31.03.2014
Güterwagen-Set 1 zur E93, DB
Vorbild: 6 Güterwagen unterschiedlicher Ausführung der Deutschen Bundesbahn (DB). 2 Schiebewand-/-dachwagen Kmmgks 58. 1 Muldenkippwagen Ommi 51. 1 Schiebedachwagen Kmmks 51. 1 gedeckter Selbstentladewagen Ktmmvs 69. 1 Kesselwagen der VTG. Betriebszustand Anfang der 60er Jahre. Modell: Schiebewand-/-dachwagen mit und ohne Bremserbühne. Muldenkippwagen mit Bremserstand und mit Schotter in maßstäblicher Körnung beladen. Schiebedachwagen mit Bremserbühne und ohne Bremserhaus. Gedeckter Selbstentladewagen. Kesselwagen der VTG. Alle Wagen mit unterschiedlichen Betriebsnummern und einzeln verpackt. Gesamtlänge über Puffer ca. 67,6 cm
UVP 199,95 EUR

INSIDER Wagen-Set 2 zur E93 DB H0/WS - 47321
NUR MIT BESTELLSCHEIN BESTELLSCHLUSS 31.03.2014:
Güterwagen-Set 2 zur E93, DB
Vorbild: 6 unterschiedliche Güterwagen der Deutschen Bundesbahn (DB). 4 Güterwagen Gl(t)mm(eh)s mit und ohne Stirntüren und mit und ohne Heizkupplung. 1 Gaskesselwagen der VTG. 1 Rungenwagen Rr 20. Modell: 1 gedeckter Güterwagen mit Stirnwandtüren und Heizkupplung. 1 gedeckter Güterwagen ohne Stirnwandtüren und ohne Heizkupplung. 1 Gaskesselwagen ohne Sonnenschutzdach der VTG. 1 gedeckter Güterwagen ohne Stirnwandtüren und mit Heizkupplung. 1 Rungenwagen mit Metallrungen und Holzbeladung. 1 gedeckter Güterwagen mit Stirntüren und ohne Heizkupplung. Alle Wagen mit unterschiedlichen Betriebsnummern. Gesamtlänge über Puffer ca. 93,8 cm.
UVP 179,95 EUR
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Offline foumaro  
#6 Posted : 21 September 2013 18:51:00(UTC)
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Great news for me,bad news for my wallet.Love Laugh LOL
Offline RayF  
#7 Posted : 21 September 2013 19:40:50(UTC)
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Any pictures anywhere?

The E 93 is very similar to the E94, is it not? I believe Piko make one.

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Offline H0  
#8 Posted : 21 September 2013 19:58:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
The E 93 is very similar to the E94, is it not? I believe Piko make one.
Right. Good news for me, good news for my wallet: I already have the Piko model.

E 93 and E 94 are very similar, but E 94 is faster and more powerful.
Only 18 E 93 were made, but 200 E 94.

I expect a new E 94 will come from Märklin a few years later. The E 94 will allow more livery variations.
Regards
Tom
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Offline Western Pacific  
#9 Posted : 21 September 2013 20:56:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
Great news for me,bad news for my wallet.Love Laugh LOL


I agree fully with that statement! Given that I love the E94/194/254/1020, this is a must for me! ThumpUp Scared Love
Offline Goofy  
#10 Posted : 21 September 2013 21:09:06(UTC)
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I think this time model will have head lighting front of the body frame.
H0
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Offline steventrain  
#11 Posted : 21 September 2013 21:29:07(UTC)
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Trix Profi Club 2014 model.

PROFI-CLUB E-Lok E93 DB Ep.III H0/GL DIGITAL SOUND - 22870
NUR MIT BESTELLSCHEIN BESTELLSCHLUSS 31.03.2014
Güterzug-Elektrolokomotive Baureihe E 93, DB
Vorbild: Schwere Güterzug-Elektrolokomotive Baureihe E 93 der Deutschen Bundesbahn (DB). Flaschengrüne Grundfarbgebung. Betriebsnummer E 93 07. Betriebszustand um 1960. Modell: Mit DCC/mfx-Digital-Decoder und umfangreichen Geräuschfunktionen. Geregelter Hochleistungsantrieb mit Schwungmasse, zentral eingebaut. Jeweils 2 Achsen in jedem Treibgestell über Kardan angetrieben. Haftreifen. Fahrtrichtungsabhängig wechselndes Dreilicht-Spitzensignal und zwei rote Schlusslichter konventionell in Betrieb, digital schaltbar. Spitzensignal an Lokseite 2 und 1 jeweils digital separat abschaltbar. Wenn Spitzensignal an beiden Lokseiten abgeschaltet ist, dann beidseitige Funktion des Doppel-A-Lichtes. Zusätzlich kann die Führerstandsbeleuchtung digital geschaltet werden. Beleuchtung mit wartungsfreien warmweißen und roten Leuchtdioden (LED). Angesetzte Griffstangen. Führerstände und Maschinenraum mit Relief-Inneneinrichtung. Ansteckbare Bremsschläuche und Kupplungshaken liegen separat bei. Länge über Puffer 20,3 cm.
Highlights: Komplette Neuentwicklung. Besonders filigrane Metallkonstruktion. Mit DCC/mfx-Decoder und umfangreichen Betriebs- und Geräuschfunktionen. Führerstandsbeleuchtung digital schaltbar. Beleuchtung mit warmweißen und roten Leuchtdioden (LED).

Wagen-Sets entsprechend 24243 und 24244
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Offline H0  
#12 Posted : 21 September 2013 21:34:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
I think this time model will have head lighting front of the body frame.
Initially the third headlight was above the windows of the engineer's cab. Later it was moved to the front right above the other two lights.

I don't know which configuration is correct for a loco of the 1960s. I'd expect three lamps above the buffer beam. But for any DR version they need the third headlight above the cab.
Regards
Tom
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Offline Frankenbahner  
#13 Posted : 21 September 2013 22:15:36(UTC)
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Years before Piko came with their E93, Verbeck made a kit for the conversion of a Märklin E94 into a E93. I came with a new white metal loco body, so these models are quite heavy. I have one of these in my collection.

One E93 is enough, I also wouldn't by a new Märklin E94. I have several versions of the old model - it may be old tooling, but it's not a bad model. So these are good news for my wallet. Or not so good news, as the money will surely be spent on some nice trams instead.

Regards,
Florian
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Offline mjrallare  
#14 Posted : 22 September 2013 10:54:47(UTC)
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Hi!

Was this loco included in the "poll" Märklin made among Insiders some time ago?

I think it's a nice loco (and era III!). A good choice as an Insider-model. And as said above, hopefully a new tooling E94 will follow.

/Torbjörn
Offline H0  
#15 Posted : 22 September 2013 11:07:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mjrallare Go to Quoted Post
Was this loco included in the "poll" Märklin made among Insiders some time ago?
IIRC it was not.
After many special Insider models, this is a rather ordinary loco (like the BR 58.10-21).

Will they get back to the poll list (the V 320 made it into the Top 6)?
Regards
Tom
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#16 Posted : 22 September 2013 11:33:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Will they get back to the poll list (the V 320 made it into the Top 6)?


And the Br06 scored quite highly, AFAIR. It makes a bit of a mockery of the whole polling thing if they don't then completely follow up on it.
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Offline xxup  
#17 Posted : 22 September 2013 12:05:33(UTC)
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New owners... New Poll.. LOL
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#18 Posted : 22 September 2013 13:42:29(UTC)
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New owners... New Poll.. LOL


Doesn't matter, same customers, same expectations!
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Offline H0  
#19 Posted : 22 September 2013 15:10:50(UTC)
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Märklin made a poll amongst the insider club members.
The locos on the list can be found here:
https://www.marklin-user...or-Marklin-Insiders.aspx

And the Top 6 results can be found here:
https://www.marklin-user...-Personal-Favourite.aspx
Regards
Tom
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Offline RayF  
#20 Posted : 22 September 2013 19:52:31(UTC)
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Thanks for reminding us, Tom.

At least they gave us the Br58, which was the top choice on our poll.

I still hope they'll make the Br06 at some point. It's just such a beautiful loco!
Ray
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Offline Webmaster  
#21 Posted : 22 September 2013 20:25:27(UTC)
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And I must say - the BR58 is the most detailed steamer I've ever seen from M... Excellent model....

E93 in 2014 is good for my budget/wallet, not "necessary" for me to have ...
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#22 Posted : 23 September 2013 22:50:31(UTC)
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Hi all,

The E94 was due for an upgrade in both motor train and body in my opinion.
It is smart of Marklin to start the process by producing something slightly different, an E93.
It certainly widens the appeal for hobbyists looking for a variation on a theme.

My E94 was a Marklin production in the last 5 years.
Something tells me that things like molded on hand rails, and noisy motors, both beautifully nostalgic, belong in the past.

regards
Kimball
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Offline H0  
#23 Posted : 23 September 2013 23:49:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Something tells me that things like molded on hand rails, and noisy motors, both beautifully nostalgic, belong in the past.
No - but sooner or later noisy motors will come in blue boxes exclusively.
Moulded on handrails also come with current "hobby" models.

Transparency is good. If well-informed customers get what they expect, there will be no disappointments. Just dreaming ...
Regards
Tom
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Offline foumaro  
#24 Posted : 24 September 2013 08:23:42(UTC)
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Something tells me that things like molded on hand rails, and noisy motors, both beautifully nostalgic, belong in the past.

I hope not.I love noicy motors,they are working for ever.Love LOL BigGrin
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Offline jeehring  
#25 Posted : 24 September 2013 16:40:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Any pictures anywhere?

The E 93 is very similar to the E94, is it not? I believe Piko make one.

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I Had a look on special books :

E94 & E93 look similar but are not the same size:
Overall length, E 94 = 18600mm, E = 93 = 17700mm (buffers are Almost the same lenght: E94 = 660mm, E93 =650mm,only 1 cm difference)

Wheelbase: E94 = 13700mm, E 93 = 12800mm (almost 1 meter different)
Space between two inner axles of each bogie: E94 = 4500mm , E93 = 4000mm...
On each bogie, space between axles is slightly different too....I said "slightly" only (15 cm & 5 cm different, not very meaningful in HO scale)
I hope Marklin will stop with cheap plastic handrails Cursing ThumbDown .
I prefer Metal handrails. ThumpUp
BTW : Did you notice the light weight of new Marklin models by comparison with former productions just a decade ago ?...
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Offline pab  
#26 Posted : 24 September 2013 20:26:26(UTC)
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Nice locomotive, but it's not a steamer.
I have no plans to buy this one.
Offline steventrain  
#27 Posted : 01 October 2013 16:00:17(UTC)
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The mfx plus E93 Insider will have cab control with CS2 - Insider club news magazine 5/2013.
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Offline Goofy  
#28 Posted : 09 October 2013 20:55:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
The mfx plus E93 Insider will have cab control with CS2 - Insider club news magazine 5/2013.


But it needs to upgrade CS2 again because cabinet is not the same as modern electric loco.

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Offline H0  
#29 Posted : 09 October 2013 22:32:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
But it needs to upgrade CS2 again because cabinet is not the same as modern electric loco.
They don't say that in the Insider Club News.
AFAIK Märklin has universal cabs - one for steam, one for diesel, one for electrics. We'll see if they bring a new cab for the E 93.

Regards
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Offline Goofy  
#30 Posted : 10 October 2013 09:20:18(UTC)
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Roco has severals cabinet which representation difference era.
Marklin can fix that too.
H0
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Offline H0  
#31 Posted : 10 October 2013 10:56:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Marklin can fix that too.
They can. But will they?

We know from Peter's mfx+ review that you can see any of the three existing cab views with any mfx+ loco by changing the MS1 type of the loco. There are only three possible selections in the MS1 type list.
To allow more than three different cabs, they have to change that mechanism. Therefore I think they will most likely stick to the three generic loco cab views they already have.

Roco sell each cab view. Therefore they have a strong interest in making as many different cab views as possible.
They even made one for the Big Boy even though Roco does not make any Big Boys.

Regards
Tom
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Offline AshleyH  
#32 Posted : 10 October 2013 11:06:49(UTC)
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Roco sell a cab layout for the Big Boy.....hmmmm maybe I should look at the Z21 again.

If only the Z21 did MFX....and MFX+
Offline steventrain  
#33 Posted : 24 October 2013 21:52:47(UTC)
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Image of 46199 and 47321 wagons pack for E93.

>46199<

>47321<
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Offline Mark5  
#34 Posted : 25 October 2013 06:17:29(UTC)
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There really is nothing that should stop Marklin from making prototypically correct cabs for each loco.
Some 15 years ago I was doing graphic art work and making "skins" for different apps like "winamp" and other app a friend and I were making for viewing fixed online cams.

I have no doubt if Marklin made a "skinable" program that could be run on the CS2 or on a PC/Mac, they would have more than enough graphic art geeks out there, making perfectly historic cabs for each loco, even with whatever limitations MFX control would/would not allow. This would actually save Marklin a lot of work, and open the market up to a whole new sector of hobbyists/modelers.

Has anyone heard of Marklin thinking along these lines? Doesn't anyone from Marklin's research team read our fabulous forum..... ???

- Mark
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Offline BrandonVA  
#35 Posted : 25 October 2013 16:34:22(UTC)
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Mark,

I agree, it should be easy and would be neat (as well as catering to realists). I think it probably also depends on whether Marklin accounted for it in their software development API, and also processing power/memory availability on a CS2. I don't know much about either of these things, but to me these would be potential problem areas.

-Brandon
Offline Webmaster  
#36 Posted : 27 October 2013 20:13:08(UTC)
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Great, I can skip this one and save some money to get another steamer on my wishlist... Smile
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Offline steventrain  
#37 Posted : 30 October 2013 10:10:59(UTC)
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I have add to delivery list topic, See 'Marklin new item 2014' at bottom of 2013 new items or see below

Now on marklin database.

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

MARKLIN 2014 NEW ITEMS.

INSIDER 2014

>37870<HuhQ2
>46199<HuhQ2
>47321<HuhQ2
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Offline Andrey  
#38 Posted : 30 October 2013 15:33:25(UTC)
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Great looking loco! Unlike Juhan I can't skip this one! Crying
By the way, what's the reason to add "station announcements" function to the freight loco?
Offline Western Pacific  
#39 Posted : 30 October 2013 19:48:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andrey Go to Quoted Post
Great looking loco! Unlike Juhan I can't skip this one! Crying
By the way, what's the reason to add "station announcements" function to the freight loco?


I can imagine two reasons for the "station announcements":

i) From the photos in Insider news #5 it is possible to see that the prototype engine has electric train heating cable and connector. In other words it would be possible to pull passenger coaches and provide current for heating of the coaches. So the prototype engine may have been used also for passenger services and my guess in that case only for local trains with low travelling speeds.

ii) The other more rude guess would be that Märklin just put as many sounds and announcements as the dekoder could hold, without thinking of whether it is prototypical or not.

Personally I would "put my money on" i), based on the fact that a generation of electric engines later, the E40/140 which was designed as a freight engine, but has been used a lot in local trains with "Silberlinge".
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Offline BrandonVA  
#40 Posted : 30 October 2013 21:38:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Western Pacific Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Andrey Go to Quoted Post
Great looking loco! Unlike Juhan I can't skip this one! Crying
By the way, what's the reason to add "station announcements" function to the freight loco?


I can imagine two reasons for the "station announcements":

i) From the photos in Insider news #5 it is possible to see that the prototype engine has electric train heating cable and connector. In other words it would be possible to pull passenger coaches and provide current for heating of the coaches. So the prototype engine may have been used also for passenger services and my guess in that case only for local trains with low travelling speeds.



I expect this is the case. V60 (top speed 60km/hr), BR50 (top speed 80km/hr), etc were used for passenger service at times (not express obviously). Top speed of E93 is 70km/hr, according to Wiki anyway. Various loco shortages over time may have forced E93 into passenger service, even if temporarily.

-Brandon

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#41 Posted : 30 October 2013 23:02:13(UTC)
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This will be my 4th German Kroc. I'm looking forward to all those bells and whistles

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#42 Posted : 06 November 2013 14:31:09(UTC)
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I have 37870 on order with 2 wagons set.
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#43 Posted : 06 November 2013 15:25:33(UTC)
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I have 37870 on order with 2 wagons set.


Me too
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#44 Posted : 06 November 2013 18:58:13(UTC)
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I have 37870 on order with 2 wagons set.


Me too BigGrin
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#45 Posted : 06 November 2013 19:21:49(UTC)
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I have 37870 on order with 2 wagons set.


I will order the lok. I dont like the sets, I prefer Brawa wagons Cool
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#46 Posted : 06 November 2013 21:00:54(UTC)
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It´s very nice model!! ThumpUp
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#47 Posted : 07 November 2013 00:08:27(UTC)
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I just got the pricing from my dealer! It will be over US$500. Why should this model be so expensive???
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#48 Posted : 07 November 2013 06:53:18(UTC)
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I just got the pricing from my dealer! It will be over US$500. Why should this model be so expensive???


Full metal
Sounds
Several function
New tool

I think the price is fair.

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#49 Posted : 07 November 2013 11:08:07(UTC)
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I just got the pricing from my dealer! It will be over US$500. Why should this model be so expensive???


Because we are all ready to buy it.LOL BigGrin
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#50 Posted : 07 November 2013 14:29:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Armando Go to Quoted Post
I just got the pricing from my dealer! It will be over US$500. Why should this model be so expensive???


Full metal
Sounds
Several function
New tool

I think the price is fair.



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