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Offline Minok  
#1 Posted : 06 November 2006 07:43:19(UTC)
Minok

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So as I'm building my collection of rolling stock and loks in my mind, with these great plans, I'm realizing, to get where I want to be, I'll probably have to upgrade or replace a few bits.

Can the following things all be replaced / upgraded ?

Couplers (to current conducting and otherwise)?

Internal Lighting on cars?
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Offline MärCo  
#2 Posted : 06 November 2006 09:05:00(UTC)
MärCo


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Interior lights can be found in the Märklin catalogue. If some cars are not mentioned in the current catalogue, you can ask here further. About current conducting couplings, you should specify in which cars you want to do that. There is no generic answer for that.
Absolutly AFB-NOHAB fan ;-)
Offline rugauger  
#3 Posted : 06 November 2006 11:50:47(UTC)
rugauger

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Regarding interior lights, there are also numerous non-Marklin LED-based units available; these use less power and have a longer life than the standard light bulbs.
Richard
Offline nevw  
#4 Posted : 06 November 2006 12:15:18(UTC)
nevw

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Have a look at this topic:
https://www.marklin-user...ault.aspx?g=posts&t=5283

Also Passenger Car Light Kits topic under HO-Scale

Nev
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
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Offline kgsjoqvist  
#5 Posted : 06 November 2006 12:33:43(UTC)
kgsjoqvist

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Current cnducting couplers are available in two versions from Märklin. If your wagons have NEM-pockets, it is quite easy to replace the original couplers. For older rolling stock, the couplers are not so easy to remove. You have to cut them off and put a NEM-pocket in to fit the current conducting couplers.

The older version of current-conducting couplers are only usable if you have the wagons permanently coupled together. If you have to uncouple them frequently you need the newer version.

If you don't want to make too many changes to your wagons, it is also possible to connect them by a thin wire. Make some kind of connector under the wagons to have a possibility to take them apart. Then you can also use a 2-pole wire to avoid light flickering - this is a good practice if you use a decoder to turn lights on/off. If you have a decoder with several outputs, you can have it in one wagon and feed the others through wires. The Roco 4-pole current conducting couplers are also a good choice. In theory you can have 5 groups of separately controlled light from 1 decoder and pickup shoe.

Most people prefer to have the pickup shoe last in the train. Then you can still control the lights of two more coaches individually.
K-G / H0 and Z model train user
Offline David Dewar  
#6 Posted : 06 November 2006 13:26:39(UTC)
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Re the above post... I think Roco no longer have their four pole couplers.

David
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Offline Minok  
#7 Posted : 06 November 2006 23:01:28(UTC)
Minok

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Thanks for the feedback. I was looking for just such info.

I can expect, that I might end up with 70's and 80's era rolling stock, and knowing that one has to cut off the connector and replace it with a modern NEM socket lets me know its do-able in any case. Its just a matter of how much work needs to be done. Cool.

I guess, ideally, I'd like to be able to uncouple all cars at will via decoupling stations. Rearranging cars and assembling trains is where much of the fun can come from once you have a permanent setup operational.

I'd like to see if I can feed power from the lok back to the train, as in real life, rather than adding another pickup shoe... I wonder if thats possible... I'd activate all of the cars lighting if the train lighting is active. However, I can imagine building circuits that, in cars with compartments, turns some compartments lights on and off selectively by some timing pattern... but thats a whole project onto itself.
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Offline rschaffr  
#8 Posted : 06 November 2006 23:27:55(UTC)
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Minok: I started a thread on converting old bogies to NEM couplers a while ago.
see https://www.marklin-user...ault.aspx?g=posts&t=4491

I have now converted about a dozen coaches this way. I can provide a more detailed description if you desire.
-Ron
Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/CS3/6021Connect/60216051), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051)
http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
Offline Minok  
#9 Posted : 07 November 2006 00:49:53(UTC)
Minok

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Excellent! That is more than detailed. Nice pictures.

Was it trial and error in geting the right location for putting in the screw hole?

Tap & Die or I guess brazing may work as well... or a delicate tap with the tig welder ? wink



Ah, thats what I forgot... I assume that the lok roof electrical pickup compeonents (the arms that fold up to contact the catenary) can be swapped to some limited extent? Here I'm thinking, if I end up with a full scissor type unit, and want to put on the half type, high-speed unit, can those be upgraded?


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Offline rschaffr  
#10 Posted : 07 November 2006 02:21:36(UTC)
rschaffr

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Minok:

I have a set of small metric taps. I tap a 2mm hole. I found that a 2mm x .4mm screw 4mm long is perfect. I get them online from "Bolt Depot". I put a coupler in the pocket the first time and compared the loop location with the one on the bogie before I cut it off and marked the hole location. I found that if I fit the base of the tab on the new pocket to line up with the place I cut the coupler off it is the right spacing.

One thing that is not clearly shown, is that to get the height right, I cut a small piece of styrene plastic and superglued it to the underpart of the arm before drilling. I found that the correct styrene was "StripStyrene" #267 from Evergreen Scale Models which is a 1/4" wide channel, like a half an "I" beam in profile.
-Ron
Digital, Epoch IV-V(K-track/CS3/6021Connect/60216051), Epoch III(C-track/6021/6036/6051)
http://www.sem-co.com/~rschaffr/trains/trains.html
Offline nevw  
#11 Posted : 07 November 2006 09:55:33(UTC)
nevw

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For Current Conducting Couplers try the RTS CC Couplers . available from LokShop in sets of 10 Cars.
Slider on one car, earthing strips on each car and the positive thru the CC Couplers.
Part number RTS5910 cost 40.52 Euro. (8 months ago.)
There was a topic on Current conductiong couplers some time ago which will give you more information.
Nev

NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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