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Offline danmarklinman  
#1 Posted : 27 December 2017 23:15:25(UTC)
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Dear all, How much oil do I put in, when I fill the smoke unit up? As I don’t want to brake the oil burner. Also. Should I only use Marklin smoke oil for the unit, 72270 Or Can I use other smoke oils, designed to smell like real steam locomotives for instance?
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Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 28 December 2017 08:51:19(UTC)
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Hi!
Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post
How much oil do I put in, when I fill the smoke unit up?
I follow instructions from the manufacturer and fill 0.2 ml from a syringe. It's up to you how much you fill in ...
... but with too much fluid you get no smoke.
The reseller writes "6 drops", but I only find that confusing. Buy from the manufacturer and you get a suitable syringe with the smoke generator.

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Should I only use Marklin smoke oil for the unit, 72270
Märklin are just a reseller for the Seuthe fluid. Compare prices for Seuthe fluid and Märklin fluid and get the cheaper one.
I haven't tried other fluids in Seuthe smoke generators. Reports say that SR24 works fine, but I don't wanna take any risk with my smoke generators.
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Offline danmarklinman  
#3 Posted : 28 December 2017 09:30:13(UTC)
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Hi, I didn’t get a syringe with my smoke generator kitCrying or instructions? Just a hazard notice. It was new from Modellbahn Kramm who’s service has dropped, I think.
Thanks for your help on the oils. My local model shop sells smoke oil that smells like steam smoke. I will see what make it is.
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Offline H0  
#4 Posted : 28 December 2017 09:52:35(UTC)
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Hi, I didn’t get a syringe with my smoke generator kitCrying
That's the problem when you buy Seuthe smoke generators in a Märklin box: the most useful accessories are missing and the instructions make no sense.
Buy a smoke generator in a Seuthe bag and you will have a useful syringe.

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Offline Br502362  
#5 Posted : 28 December 2017 12:00:50(UTC)
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Hi,

4-6 drops is ok. Also SR24 works fine, but the smell is different.
Seuthe/Märklin smoke oil has the "right" smell which brings childhood to your mind Woot

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Offline analogmike  
#6 Posted : 28 December 2017 13:36:00(UTC)
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Hi Dan,
I have been using this stuff for 20-30 years. It never went stale and the smell is just like the old Marklin fluid.
Take a trip down to the local pharmacy and get a regular eye dropper 7-8 drops are fine.
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Offline danmarklinman  
#7 Posted : 28 December 2017 14:32:29(UTC)
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Well it makes a good head of steamLOL Love
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#8 Posted : 28 December 2017 19:30:30(UTC)
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I suspect the LGB smoke oil is also repackaged Seuthe oil.

I have also heard that musicians valve oil (as used on the valves on trumpets and similar instruments) also makes good smoke oil.

Another possibility is the ESU smoke oil, which I beleive is different to the Seuthe oil, and has to be used in the smoke units of ESU locos, but is also OK in Seuthe smoke units.
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Offline Crazy Harry  
#9 Posted : 29 December 2017 04:03:12(UTC)
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I recently purchased some Marklin smoke fluid. The first thing I noticed, it is no longer lemon scented. When did they change that? (I think I'm dating myself with that question!)

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Offline Minok  
#10 Posted : 29 December 2017 06:30:19(UTC)
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I'd use the fluid recommended by the smoke unit manufacturer and not mix and match as the cook off temp of the fluid needs to match the smoke units heating characteristics. I picked up the Märklin unit (a Seuth unit) along wit a bigger bottle of fluid and then got a dropper dropper pippett that any model shop of drug store sells.

Just a handful of drops is enough to fill the smoker as they don't have a lot of room. Overfilled or with air trapped they don't smoke, which can be fixed.
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Offline JohnjeanB  
#11 Posted : 29 December 2017 10:44:20(UTC)
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Hi All,

I use a serynge and fill the Seuthe smoke generator and then putting the tip of the needle 8 to 10 mm inside it, I get back the liquid until air is coming un the syringe.
Any used small serynge will do.
Now I use fluid less and less as it covers my locos with oily splashes and it cuts out very rapidly.
Seuthe smoke tubes have 2 ends; one with 90° angle cut and the second with a 45° angle cut. When the first end is down, smoke production is smaller but lasts longer
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Offline carlos.rivas.16752  
#12 Posted : 29 December 2017 15:46:43(UTC)
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I´m using the Wiesmann fluid and it works fine with Seuthe generators.

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Offline H0  
#13 Posted : 29 December 2017 15:56:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: carlos.rivas.16752 Go to Quoted Post
I´m using the Wiesmann fluid and it works fine with Seuthe generators.
Judging from their product descriptions I bet that Viessmann/Vollmer are just reselling Seuthe smoke generators and smoke fluid.
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