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Offline Alsterstreek  
#351 Posted : 07 February 2017 20:16:59(UTC)
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Seefeld, Austria, 2012.
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#352 Posted : 09 February 2017 22:24:13(UTC)
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Seefeld, Austria, 2012.


Does that count as a hybrid loco? LOL

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#353 Posted : 09 February 2017 22:43:42(UTC)
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class 220 with N 4441 Cuxhaven - Stade (ABnb, Bnb) near Hechthausen, 1981.
02854.220055.18061981.kkrv.jpg
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#354 Posted : 10 February 2017 20:31:24(UTC)
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But we want short freight trains with that loco, too.

New (2014), near Karlstadt.
v27010-mit-kurzem-gueterzug-karlstadt 2014.jpg
www.bahnamateurbilder.startbilder.de

Old (1983), near Hemmoor.
 Ng63416 hatte 220010 am 29.3.83 westlich Hemmoor eisenbahnfotograf-de.jpg
www.www.eisenbahnfotograf.de

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#355 Posted : 15 February 2017 19:10:51(UTC)
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Heide (Holstein), 1986.
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#356 Posted : 16 February 2017 11:13:12(UTC)
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Schmidstock, Bavaria.
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#357 Posted : 18 February 2017 15:31:05(UTC)
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#358 Posted : 19 February 2017 13:39:25(UTC)
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Class 218 on Hindenburg causeway, 2012.
hindenburgdamm218hemmingstedter.jpg
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#359 Posted : 25 February 2017 14:10:40(UTC)
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Consist could be shortened, if needed (2010).
entry_ubb.user_461638.1240949488.1109265491.1109265491.1.db_autozug_mit_dem_oeler_fotos1.jpg

http://461638.forumroman...mit_dem_oeler_fotos.html
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#360 Posted : 25 February 2017 18:01:08(UTC)
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Consist could be shortened, if needed (2010).
...
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Well in fact, I heard that in case of very high winds (like often the case on the line to Sylt) a big loco on a short train is definitely **no** overkill.
Haven't experienced it first hand though!Wink

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#361 Posted : 10 March 2017 17:14:49(UTC)
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#362 Posted : 11 March 2017 09:29:27(UTC)
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class 218 near Bonn, 2015
218 FZT56105 nach Oberlenningen kbs.761.startbilder.de.jpg
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#363 Posted : 11 March 2017 09:46:13(UTC)
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class 218 near Bonn, 2015
Nice picture.
Looks like a picture from 2009, taken 370 km from Bonn.
http://kbs761.startbilde...bergabezug-fzt56105.html

I know the Bonn area a bit ans was curious where the photo had been taken. 370 km may be "near" in America, but in tiny Germany it is "far".Wink
Description from a different picture?
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#364 Posted : 11 March 2017 13:02:38(UTC)
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OK, another attempt far from Bonn.
:o)

218regen2000.jpg
www.dieselparadies.de
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#365 Posted : 02 July 2017 15:10:40(UTC)
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Not really short, but still manageable on a H0 scale layout: Class 44 steam loco hauled freight between Vöhrum und Hämelerwald, 1971.
gueterzug-mit-44er-dampflok-an-453208.jpg
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#366 Posted : 02 July 2017 16:01:23(UTC)
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UP2897 Cheyenne-Denver, 1955.
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#367 Posted : 02 July 2017 19:10:58(UTC)
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Work train in Bullay, 1971
1971Bullay1worktrain-www.forum.hunsrueckquerbahn.png1971Bullay2worktrainwww.forum.hunsrueckquerbahn..png
www.forum.hunsrueckquerbahn.de
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#368 Posted : 04 July 2017 22:55:48(UTC)
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Electrics hauling short freight in the 1980s.
1980s-12railroad24.de.png1980s-15railroad24.de.png1980s-24railroad24.de.png1980s-17railroad24.de.png1980s-1railroad24.de.png1980s-11railroad24.de.png
www.railroad.24

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#369 Posted : 09 July 2017 14:52:31(UTC)
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Single coach trains in the 1980s.
1980s-36railroad24.de.png1980s-38railroad24.de.png
www.railroad24.de
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#370 Posted : 09 July 2017 19:53:31(UTC)
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Double coach trains in the 1980s.
1980s-16railroad24.de.png1980s-33railroad24.de.png1980s-6railroad24.de.png
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#371 Posted : 09 July 2017 20:53:23(UTC)
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Double-headed triple coach trains in the 1980s.
1980s-32railroad24.de.png1980s-22railroad24.de.png
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#372 Posted : 09 July 2017 23:31:26(UTC)
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One coach "plus more".
1980s-25railroad24.de2mix.png

Two coaches "plus more".
1980s-30railroad24.de1mix.png

Three coaches "plus more".
1980s-3railroad24.de.png

www.railroad24.de
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#373 Posted : 13 July 2017 20:50:27(UTC)
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Short freight trains with an odd number of cars.

Three.
1980s-37railroad24.de3g.png
Five
1980s-5railroad24.de5g.png
Seven.
1980s-20railroad24.de7g.png
www.railroad24.de
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#374 Posted : 14 July 2017 23:20:50(UTC)
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Short freight trains:

Two cars.
1980s-23railroad24.de2g.png
Three cars.
1980s-31railroad24.de3mix.png

www.railroad24.de
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#375 Posted : 15 July 2017 13:49:17(UTC)
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Kind of short train.
1980s-13railroad24.de.png
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#376 Posted : 15 July 2017 16:55:34(UTC)
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That's a great picture. Looks like it is a work/track maintenance train. Thanks .

Happy Model Railroading

Robert
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#377 Posted : 27 March 2019 15:45:35(UTC)
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Stuetzerbach 1992.jpg
Stützerbach, 1992.
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#378 Posted : 29 March 2019 09:26:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Stuetzerbach 1992.jpg
Stützerbach, 1992.


Steuerwagen kaputt?? Laugh Laugh
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#379 Posted : 29 March 2019 09:45:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Short freight trains with an odd number of cars.
Three.
Five
Seven.
...


In the model world, I am a great believer in running trains with an odd number of cars.
I don't know if I am dreaming, but somehow up to about 11 cars, the train looks more realistic.
From 12 cars onward, it does not seem to matter.

Kimball
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#380 Posted : 31 March 2019 23:58:41(UTC)
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Offline TEEWolf  
#381 Posted : 01 April 2019 00:33:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jvuye Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Stuetzerbach 1992.jpg
Stützerbach, 1992.


Steuerwagen kaputt?? Laugh Laugh


No, dismissed trains from the communistic, bankrupt DDR on their way to the employment agency, searching for a new job with the DB - not yet the DB AG. Laugh Laugh
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#382 Posted : 01 April 2019 00:36:09(UTC)
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Ah first its says, no posting possible for the next 53 seconds and then it is a double posting.Cursing
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#383 Posted : 03 September 2019 16:29:38(UTC)
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Early era IV - diesel loco hauling a short "Autoreisezug" in Lensahn (Schleswig-Holstein) consisting of one couchette, one sleeper and one auto rack:

https://www.drehscheibe-...ad.php?17,8033530,page=1

Edited by user 05 September 2019 10:51:01(UTC)  | Reason: Typo

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#384 Posted : 29 November 2019 19:54:50(UTC)
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On the Zagreb-Rijeka line in the 90's
UserPostedImageUserPostedImage
And much earlier
UserPostedImage
Tourist train on the coast in Rijeka
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#385 Posted : 01 May 2021 05:57:02(UTC)
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Can you find any examples of D-zug's or Eilzugs in the mid 50's? Also after examples of Z-zugs with Schlafwagens.
modelling era IIIa (1951-1955) Germany
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#386 Posted : 01 May 2021 09:30:14(UTC)
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Cross reference to another thread:

https://www.marklin-user...46903-Short-compositions
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#387 Posted : 01 May 2021 10:00:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: applor Go to Quoted Post
Can you find any examples of D-zug's or Eilzugs in the mid 50's?


The 2014 posts no. 48 and 88 as well as 2015 posts no. 276/277/278 further up present short 1950s F-trains.

Post no. 167 shows a 1950s commuter train.

A replication of train E935 in 1954 pulled by a V36 in Nordenham:

https://www.dhuenntalbah...gbildung/v36-wendezuege/

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#388 Posted : 01 May 2021 10:10:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Cross reference to another thread:
https://www.marklin-user...46903-Short-compositions


UserPostedImage
I reposted in this thread. Quite a collection of interesting train compositions!
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#389 Posted : 01 May 2021 19:19:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: applor Go to Quoted Post
...in the mid 50's? Also after examples of Z-zugs with Schlafwagens.
That is more challenging.

(1) An exotic 1953 photograph of a short F106 with a lonely sleeper at the end near Schirnding in Bavaria.
pke1954.png
Train composition:

CSD 555.0 (ex-DR 52)
SNCF Pw4ü (Prague-) Schirnding - Stuttgart (-Paris)
PKP ABC4ü (Warsaw-) Schirnding - Stuttgart (-Paris)
CIWL WLAB (Warsaw-) Schirnding - Stuttgart (-Paris)

https://forum.e-train.fr...p;t=24143&start=9015

(2) A PDF of a presentation on (short) pre-1960 passenger trains based on prototype photos:

http://www.mist-4.de/arc...1-vortrag-zugbildung.pdf

The second car of the "Schnellzug" on page 11 is a sleeper.

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#390 Posted : 02 May 2021 11:18:47(UTC)
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Two BR41's in Bomhein, Germany. Not my photo BTW.

18156186_1179551815506077_1792839517981150222_o.jpg
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#391 Posted : 02 May 2021 17:46:24(UTC)
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Two BR41's in Bomhein, Germany.
Is that Bornheim maybe? 2017 museum locos, former GDR locos.


Different location, but most likely the same train can be seen here:
https://bw-kottenheim.de/viewtopic.php?t=169
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#392 Posted : 04 May 2021 02:02:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Two BR41's in Bomhein, Germany. Not my photo BTW.

18156186_1179551815506077_1792839517981150222_o.jpg


I can' get the steam out of my eyes!Drool Drool

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#393 Posted : 15 March 2023 01:02:07(UTC)
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1) D 11057 Hildesheim – Göttingen, class 101 electric with three coaches in 2002:

https://abload.de/image....269...101120sibs6dyg.jpg


2) Shortest ICE on the Frankenwaldbahn in 2022:

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#394 Posted : 15 March 2023 13:16:46(UTC)
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1) The Ostend-Cologne Pullman Express 1929 -1939: Operated by the Compagnie Internationale des Wagons-Lits (CIWL), it was their only Pullman Express ever scheduled in Germany, and during its existence was part of the fastest overland connection between London and Cologne.
image.jpg
DRG class 01 locomotive

image(1).jpeg
DRG class 39 locomotive

2) Holland-Riviera Express 1931-1939: The Riviera Express was one of the fastest long-distance trains running through Germany in the 1930s. The train's car pool consisted exclusively of sleeping, dining, and baggage cars.
image(2).jpeg
DRG Class 17 locomotive

Source: https://eisenbahnstiftung.de/
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#395 Posted : 15 March 2023 23:45:41(UTC)
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Thanks for the great pictures of the BR 01, 17 and 39 hauled trains.

I get the monthly digital magazine Eisenbahn modellbahn magazin and the March issue has a feature on short trains in the modern era.

Kimball
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#396 Posted : 17 March 2023 17:27:26(UTC)
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Some short ICE's:
410001MKF_2TK_1152.jpg
410001MKF_Solo_1152.jpg
Akkuschleppfahrzeug_ASF_DR_66_EL16_14266_BRGBA_2019-05-15.jpg
ICE_short.jpg
ICEAbn0411.JPG
DSCF8414.JPG
ICEAbn034.JPG
ICEAbn009.JPG
2ICE_strange2.jpg
ICE_test.jpg
ICEAbn016.JPG
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