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Offline biedmatt  
#1 Posted : 21 November 2013 22:27:35(UTC)
biedmatt

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I need to replace the left cover for the coal load on my 37040. I looked at the exploded parts list and while they show the piece, they do not list a part number. No big deal, it's happened before, so I send an e-mail to Marklin service with a picture of the loko and the detached part circled in red. I also include the item number of the loko and what it is I need. Before, they would figure it out and I'd order the part. Now I get that it is not available as a spare part (different from out of stock which I can understand with older equipment) and have you seen the parts list for the loko? Let me attach a PDF for your use. I waited eleven days for nothing.

I have a lot of rolling stock, I think as much as I intend to buy now. So it appears the only Marklin items left for me to buy is track when I start my new layout. Controls will be coming from ESU and signals from Viessmann.
Matt
Era 3
DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
Offline AshleyH  
#2 Posted : 21 November 2013 22:59:39(UTC)
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Did you email Marklin in Germany directly or via Walthers?

I am in a similar position with an E10 which has a piece of roof detail missing from new. I ordered the complete roof detail pack for the E10, but the part I needed is not included. It is one of the silver insulators that lies horizontally towards the pantograph at each end if the loco.

It seems my only alternative is to make a resin mold and cast another piece and paint it. I can understand the need to bundle spares into logical larger packets, but to not list many fittings as spares at all is very frustrating on a premium loco.
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Offline biedmatt  
#3 Posted : 21 November 2013 23:28:32(UTC)
biedmatt

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I sent this to service in Germany. Before, there was a very helpful lady who answered my questions. I feel like a smuck that I do not remember her name. It may take her some time, but that was okay, I'm sure she was busy and requests like mine would require some time. This is some new guy and my impressions are he's too lazy to get off his butt and chase down the part number. I think he attached the diagram as a way to say "See? It is not available". There sure as heck was no other reason to attach it as it was useless as far as the part number I needed.
Matt
Era 3
DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
Offline Markus Schild  
#4 Posted : 22 November 2013 00:59:53(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Hi Matt,

if you check this link http://www.maerklin.de/s...&artikelnummer=37040 you find a very much longer list than the printed one. I'm 99% sure that you need no 27 "E122251
Abdeckung 2 Stück 6,00 €" (cover, 2 pieces). I see no other item at this locomotive were this description ("Abdeckung 2 Stück") could match. The part also seems to be exclusive to this loco.

Regards

Markus
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Offline biedmatt  
#5 Posted : 22 November 2013 01:27:09(UTC)
biedmatt

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Markus, fantastic, thank you very much! I knew there had to be a part number.
While my faith in Marklin has not been renewed, I have learned that there are other ways to get the info needed.
Now I know where to go for a better list of what is available as spare parts.

Thanks again!
Matt
Era 3
DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 22 November 2013 08:17:28(UTC)
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Hi!
Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
if you check this link http://www.maerklin.de/s...&artikelnummer=37040 you find a very much longer list than the printed one. I'm 99% sure that you need no 27 "E122251
Abdeckung 2 Stück 6,00 €" (cover, 2 pieces). I see no other item at this locomotive were this description ("Abdeckung 2 Stück") could match. The part also seems to be exclusive to this loco.
Been there, seen that - but had doubts.

The bag contains two pieces, not a pair. That sounds wrong.

The BR 03.10 should share the same parts, shouldn't it?

I'm afraid that E122251 will be the cover for the smoke stack. And that part is really unique for the BR 50.40, but not what Matt is looking for.
Regards
Tom
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Offline Markus Schild  
#7 Posted : 22 November 2013 08:39:36(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post

The BR 03.10 should share the same parts, shouldn't it?



Hi Tom,

I had the same idea yesterday, but for my eyes the parts look different. I don't have any of these locos so I can't compare at the "real thing".

Regards

Markus
Offline biedmatt  
#8 Posted : 22 November 2013 13:55:11(UTC)
biedmatt

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Back to square one then. I'll see what they show for the 03.10.
Thanks for the help though guys, it is appreciated and much more than those who have a vested interest in my satisfaction have done.
Matt
Era 3
DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
Offline BrandonVA  
#9 Posted : 22 November 2013 14:32:20(UTC)
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Matt,

I'm really sorry to hear about your troubles. The response is disappointing for sure, since it has been better in the past. I wonder if you could figure out the German word that describes the part and try an ebay.de search (you probably already have)?

I'm not being critical of this matter or you, nor do I want to start an argument. I wonder how many other companies can supply specific spare parts like this? We have become ingrained with the impression that Marklin will still sell service parts for locomotives that are 60 years old. While this practice is in the decline, very few companies still do this, or ever did this (Snapper comes to mind as one that does).

I don't have enough experience with other model companies to know...but would we get better service on these spares from other companies like Bachmann, Brawa, MTH or Roco? (just a few for example) Perhaps others will know. I just wonder if the bar has been set high for Marklin via history?

Just my thoughts.

Thanks,

Brandon
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Offline pa-pauls  
#10 Posted : 22 November 2013 14:38:26(UTC)
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Hello,

I have model 37040 and 37915 and the "covers" are NOT the same one's !

There are some details on the cover's on the 37040 that are different to the cover's on 37915,
the one's on the 37915 is about 2 mm longer than the one's on the 37040 as far as I can see,,,

Hope this help's,,,
Pål Paulsen
Märklin Spur 1 Digital, epoche 3
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Offline H0  
#11 Posted : 22 November 2013 14:45:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
We have become ingrained with the impression that Marklin will still sell service parts for locomotives that are 60 years old.
Moulds from last century were in use for 40 years, so spare parts were available for the same period of time.

Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
I don't have enough experience with other model companies to know...but would we get better service on these spares from other companies like Bachmann, Brawa, MTH or Roco?
I ordered several spare parts for Roco and from my experience supply is about as good as Märklin. Some spare parts for Märklin one-time series become unavailable rather soon nowadays.

The model in question is a 2011 new item and an exclusive Insider model. It's from the time when the spare parts lists on the explosion diagrams already had gotten dang short.
The spare parts list for the 39050 (05 003, Insider model a few years earlier) had 111 items, with the 37040 there were only 27.
Regards
Tom
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Offline pa-pauls  
#12 Posted : 22 November 2013 14:57:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post

I'm afraid that E122251 will be the cover for the smoke stack.....


I just had a look at my spare part list for the model 37040 and the part E 122 251
is actually the plastic cover that hold's the motor in place inside the locomotive !

On the cover's back on the tender there is no number listed,,, Sorry,,,
Pål Paulsen
Märklin Spur 1 Digital, epoche 3
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Offline H0  
#13 Posted : 22 November 2013 15:02:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
I wonder if you could figure out the German word that describes the part and try an ebay.de search (you probably already have)?
I think "Kohlekasten-Abdeckung" would be the best term. "Abdeckung" is only "cover" and can be anything.
So it seems the parts are different between 03.10 and 50.40. But they should be found on the spare parts lists of both locos and there should be two different numbers for each locos or the should come in pairs.

They write that parts that are not listed are only available for reparations done at the company. But the service department should tell you if that was an option.

Regards
Tom
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Offline biedmatt  
#14 Posted : 22 November 2013 19:07:39(UTC)
biedmatt

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Thank you everyone for your help and suggestions.
I do not expect Marklin to carry parts for an indefinite period of time, but I do expect them to have something from just two years ago. While it is not a warranty claim, the item is still under warranty. The fact that we can not find a part number for it makes me think it has just never been cataloged. The piece must have a part number though or they would never have been able to manage production and assembly of the loko. This has happened to me before, the engineer's cab ladder for V188 #37282 was one such instance. None the less, Marklin service was able to get me a part number and I fortunately nabbed the last one available. It appears Marklin's service is not as helpful as it used to be, or my e-mail landed on someone's computer who was indifferent to my needs. Still, a poor reflection on the service department for a $600US loko.
Matt
Era 3
DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
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Offline H0  
#15 Posted : 22 November 2013 19:55:27(UTC)
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They have a new spare part policy that became effective with the introduction of the E prefix for spare part numbers. "New Märklin", the Märklin after insolvency is a new company.

There's a new text on new explosion diagrams:
"Hinweis: Einige Teile werden nur ohne oder mit anderer Farbgebung angeboten.
Teile, die hier nicht aufgeführt sind, können nur im Rahmen einer Reparatur im Märklin Reparatur-Service repariert werden."
=> Parts not listed can only be replaced at the repair service.

Ask them if the cover can be replaced in Göppingen. If the answer is yes, you can still try to find the number to order the part yourself.
Regards
Tom
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